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This is a 5.5 before considering the paint spot.  Paint drops it to 3.5.

9.2 here.  Spine tics and edge wear, mainly on the bottom

Has a full length subscription crease.  5.0

That tear and staining on the back cover had me at 3.0.  

Hello,

Just got one of the key’s I’ve been longing for.  I’ve cleaned this up a bit.  Let me know what you think?

4.0 as is, will press to 4.5.  The tear on the back cover caps it.

Generally, in the 8.0 range, creases need to be limited to 1/4”.  I think is closer to 1/2”, which does move it into the 7 range.  That’s the rules as I read them and see through examples.
 

As I was reviewing this, I was at a 6.5 before I saw that crease.  There’s the spine hits, and lower right corner that is in addition to the long crease and the shorter one above it.  If it were just the long crease, sure, I can go higher.  I don’t believe that is the case here.  I’m at 4.5 on this one.

On 8/22/2021 at 7:14 AM, Funnybooks said:

You may be correct, but, I think everyone noticed the creases as they are quite evident. Even with the creases, 4.5 seems harsh. The book appears very much to be in the "fine" minus range as opposed to the "good" plus range imho.  Just some examples from a quick search on ebay...the grade is likely somewhere in between at around 5.5?  enjoying the debate 

 

On 8/21/2021 at 4:26 PM, candygramformongo said:

Interesting, that crease doesn't bring it down that far for me.  Still a solid 5.5 in my eyes, maybe even 6.0.  Back cover looks really nice.

See the 2nd one by the code authority box? This book has been pressed well to conceal them.  Some pictures of the back cover will show it better. 
 

Another entire thread of a missed color breaking crease

7.5

4.0

8.0 , clean will help this, but I think it’s 8.0 after c/p

I’ll go 3.0

On 8/21/2021 at 7:07 PM, Mark Riley said:

What is the edge indentation that you are referring to?

4.5, everyone on this thread has missed the crease running from top mid to right edge.  That crease firmly locks this grade in the 4s.

6.0 and that is a water line.

3,5 -4.0.  The chipping on the right and top is production related and does not affect the grade.  Look up marvel chipping.

I count about 4-6 spine tics, bottom left corner, edge indention on the back top right, possible scatch in the back top right (saw in 1 pic, not another).  Based on the count and the severity of the bottom left corner 9.2.

0.5

On 8/21/2021 at 12:01 PM, grendelbo said:

Minor staple stress with color-breaking creasing. Slight edge wear back cover bottom edge and lower left corner.

I'll rarely, if ever, grade above a 9.4 with pics alone, FYI. For one I don't really believe there's a difference between 9.6s and 9.8s. 9.4s are NM and I think that's where the grading scale should stop. Also, without a book in hand there's always something that could be missed, even with the best pics.

Completely agree on the ability to judge something better than 9.4 by pics.  I was curious if you saw something else.  The lower back left area is allowed in 9.8.  It looks slightly worse as the phone software brightens the whites.  The staple stress and everything would be in the production flaw.  If it’s not, i’d give this a 9.2 myself.

On 8/21/2021 at 11:28 AM, grendelbo said:

9.4

Could be a 9.6 depending on how CGC treats the apparent manufacturer defects.

Thanks for posting.

 

Please list your flaws please.

Concurring, 5.5 with a production error

7.5, c/p

to 8.5
 

A rub is where the existing color has been rubbed off.  You have ink or dirt on the paper, not a rub.

Some interior pictures showing how elaborate this insert is and the tear

I looked at the back staple some more and it is staple tear on the top.  There is also an insert on the top staple.  I suspect this insert can get pulled a bit and it causes the tear.  
 

I was looking at some CGC 9.8s and there are a few with a similar issue.  Added a picture of 2: