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That is utterly false. And good luck trying to find any CGC 3.0 slab for $300-$850 less than what a Voldemort slab just went for. -J. This sale you're trying to promote as gospel doesn't even appear on ebay ain any sold listing.....FYI. And your last statement is just silly, because the last sale is not the only data point that matters....... for example, a cgc 4.0 sold for $13K recently and a Voldy 4.0 sold for $17.0K. Now I agree that on balance the cgc market price is higher, but that's irrelevant to my point; that there are a whole lot more (data) points to be looked at. And since you're apparently so knowledgable on GPA (without a subscription, no less), then show us some sales that actually closed on ebay that GPA doesn't capture. would be happy to engage George to join this conversation. George will be the first to tell you that they don't capture everything. In fact, he gladly welcomes and new or different data to be brought to his attention if it was missed or was incorrect from any of the sources they receive their points from. Also, this 2.5 sale just happened yesterday: http://item.ebay.co.uk/252259773839?item_hash4=965bc96a&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true And here's the 3.0 sale from earlier: http://item.ebay.co.uk/221929147545?item_hash4=8447b353&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true So even accounting to the standard market fluctuations, and considering that a 2.5 just went for $10,250 (only $600 less than what a Voldemort 3.0 just went for), I doubt any CGC 3.0 could be had for less than the $12k-$13k. Just my opinion of course. -J. Thanks Jay - as you'll note, the 3.0 listing wasn't identified as a CGC book in its title (not even the grade was mentioned). Hence why it wasn't picked up. I'll get it into GPA shortly.

Um, which ones? Other than the one that just ended today and has not been updated in the system yet, all the others are in GPA. Can you point out which?

0 fb winner, though. and now relisted

Just be mindful, two of the sales you think went in the '$1600 range' did not. This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151546971810 Which shows as ending at $1600 was actually sold at a best offer of $1400 And this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141466670430 Which shows as ending at $1650 was actually sold at a best offer of $1300 The only sale to reach over $1600 was in October: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311150248804

Hi Speedster, you can give Chubb a try.

Absolutely excellent!!!

awwwwww... I think Marky needs a wittle hug (thumbs u

awwwwww... I think Marky needs a wittle hug

Totally agree - there are so many people here we are all fortunate to have on our side, and Mark is certainly one of the good guys. Well done Mark (thumbs u

hey mate Easy mate, he was waving at my Prove it Tell you what...let's arm wrestle in Darwin over it... Over a couple Darwin stubbies? Done! For those unfamiliar, holds two litres - a little over half a US gallon. Plus it actually comes with alcohol in it....

hey mate Easy mate, he was waving at my Prove it Tell you what...let's arm wrestle in Darwin over it... Over a couple Darwin stubbies? Done!

hey mate Easy mate, he was waving at my Prove it

hey mate

This needs 6 pages of quotes one I never saw nothing like this back on the farm... Looks like she's eating from the opposite end. I thinks she is hungry. I love the artificial goose bumps. artificial !? I'm gutted.... Oh, Oh, there are real ones too! Don't leave! I was just talking about the silly looking grid. Nobody likes a grid....do they? dude, there could be amphibian landing craft shapes on there and it wouldn't make a damn difference

This needs 6 pages of quotes one I never saw nothing like this back on the farm... Looks like she's eating from the opposite end. I thinks she is hungry. I love the artificial goose bumps. artificial !? I'm gutted....

Mark, you know I'm not back in Melbourne until next week, but let me know what we can do to help publicize the auction or anything else through GPA. Email me any details. Well done on taking this on. (thumbs u

I loves me my slightly restored books. 5 and 6 figure eye appeal and feel for a fraction of the price. (thumbs u (thumbs u

This is a very good point. Often we take a short sighted view to restored books, mainly because a lot of the books that we want can be easily obtained in unrestored shape. Books that have been restored/conserved (deacidified, rehumidified etc) may end up outlasting their unrestored counterparts. This is definitely the case with some comic books that are old and rare just as it is the case with old documents and literature. R. Creating our very own "What If?" scenario, I wonder what would have been the case with restored books/values if from the very start CGC gave a PLOD only to those books that were not professionally restored, or had trimming? I.e. professional restored books still received a blue label with the details of the restoration/conservation undertaken.

Definitely agree. I should have added this to my statement also.

If the book is restored by a professional restoration/conservation expert, then I would consider them equal value. However, our hobby places a stigma on such books and hence the market adjusts accordingly. Personally, an expertly restored book where paper has been deacidified, spines reinforced, tears sealed, etc., one could even argue is now in a better state than a non-restored copy with soiling, tears, rolls, etc. A non-professional restored book? I wouldn't touch it in a million years.

Thanks for the info... on the Quilceda Creek, that's an incentive and a half! Just no hanger-onners ok? That way we can get a half bottle volume each!

I see where you are coming from. But a groundwood sheet is so much different from a freesheet, I don't think you could equate the results with anything. They are completely different types of paper by nature and manufacturing process. What are you basing that statement on? There is quite a bit of scientific evidence that suggests that it is acidity, and not necessarily the lignin content of the paper, that determines paper strength and permanence upon aging. Springhill Offset is alum-rosin sized, which means it is inherently acidic. I will grant you that high lignin content paper tends to react more with atmospheric pollutants than lignin free paper, but that's why it's not appropriate to compare the Springhill Offset results 1:1 with high lignin content groundwood. But that does not mean you should make the logical leap that we can learn nothing from the Springhill Offset results and simply disregard them as though high lignin content paper will react the opposite way upon aging. It simply means that they will age at different rates, with the high lignin content paper aging faster. Hey buddy How are things? I would add that through my research (more interested in paper quality and aging, and less about pressing) the physical strength of paper comes mainly from the longer fibers. Hence why paper produced hundreds of years ago (and generally stored in less than ideal conditions) can often be structurally better than paper produced more recently. Of course, that being said, the acidic level present within paper (especially during production) plays a major role in paper deterioration over time (and indirectly, on overall structural strength). As does the fact that modern papers are rarely made up of pure cellulose, usually contain lignin, alum and rosin sizing, have been bleached, etc. But as you mentioned earlier, the right storage conditions and correct book handling will see your books last a long time (much longer than any of us will survive), in pretty much the condition they are currently in. On another note, I'm currently researching the different types of paper used in mass print runs (comics, newspapers) from the 1920's onwards. What are your thoughts on paper strength/quality when one compares paper used in Golden Age through to Bronze Age books? Have you come across any data on paper processing and paper types used during these periods in the United States?

There are plenty of ways to determine a relist on eBay though, including when sellers try to sell the same book over. But that aside I hear what you're saying. We'll take a closer look at the regular listings.

No, ebay auctions have an ending time - we only look at those that have ended, not all the pages of listings. But it's also to do with not knowing whether a sale pending means the result is final or fell through. But we'll keep looking at ways of getting the data. In the meantime we will at the least include the auction results.