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I'll take the 7.0 #8 for $80.

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Gotcha, thanks. No this one makes a nice, sturdy reader copy.

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Thanks so much for the helpful insights. I'm happy to see I decided about the same. I wrestled with it for a while, but I finally decided the book tops out at a 5.0, but possibly a 4.5. Here's how I got there. At first glance the book seemed to be a 6.0ish. Clearly not an 8.0 range but pretty nice considering the general wear and gloss. But as I examined more closely, there are defects that look rough for a 6.0. And then those long color breaks look too many and too severe for a Fine grade. So seeing elements of both 6.0 and 4.0, split the difference at 5.0.

I've come to my own conclusion on this one but I think it makes for an interesting inspection and I'd like to see what others think. I'll share my thoughts once others have had a chance to weigh in. This is a nice sturdy book with tight staples and still with some gloss. I think I've included photos of the significant defects. The tear on the reverse left-edge is less than one-fourth inch. The worst defects are the long color breaking creases across the top front. There are at least three and they range in length from 5 inches to 7 inches. They leave an impression on the interior front cover. Thanks for your comments!

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Look, folks. A massive fraud has been perpetuated on us. A fraud that has involved the United States Postal System and electronic money transfers. These are federal crimes. Where is the FBI? Why are auction sites still selling potentially fraudulent works without even posting a warning? How can CGC continue operations when they are right in the middle of the scandal? Some folks think we should carry on as if nothing's happened until all the facts are in? Really? Some folks take joy on CGC's dilemma? Just get lost, wouldja? We know there's a problem, a big problem. Stop wishing it away. Let's get some action and transparency.

I think our community as a whole is in shock, unable or unwilling to comprehend what has happened. Understand - we have been swindled, all of us. We all have high-grade books. The engine of this hobby is the full faith and trust in CGC. That's gone, see? You may trust your own books,, but that's not what a CGC slab meant. Many of our books now look more like confederate money. If you don't have a sick feeling in your gut about this then it's time to lose the over confidence. That's what got us here in the first place.

I hate this has happened. I love what CGC has done for collecting comics. But I fear this is catastrophic. One skilled swapper can do an untold amount of contamination. Yet there could be more than one swapper. I'm convinced a skilled and practiced hand could swap undetected all day. Even 3 digit value books could be worth swapping. My God, we are undone. For crying out loud, the only reason this was caught was the hubris of the swapper. Do you realize any sold and returned slabbed book may well have been returned swapped? While we sat smugly confident, thieves have rotted our world from the inside out.

I'll take this. God bless you, JimJum. Get well soon.

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I really appreciate all the great comments. I'm happy to report that I've had two of the books graded and they both came back White, namely the ASM 39 and the DD 16. The noteworthy thing is both books have nice looking pages that you might guess are good enough to be white, but both have interior cover pages that have clearly lost some of their original whiteness.

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That looks like color touch with bleed through so purple label. Still worth slabbing IMHO even if it comes back 4.0 purple label. Expect it to bring at 50 to 75 percent of it's blue label value. There will be buyers.

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I get what you're doing, but forum rules are you can't have more than one thread open in the same forum.

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Bump for update.