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I fear the worst... Trimming... Any ASM 28 experts out there?

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Aces

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I always have heard the rumors that ASM 28 was one of the most messed with issues of all time...

 

And I thought I finally found a nice F+ copy... :censored:

 

ASM28Ts.jpg

 

I scanned it over a issue of ASM 25 so the color contrast would show.

Yellow/Black works well.

Looks like I'm missing a 1/8 inch off the right and bottom.

Top looks OK due to overhang so I think the top/bottom trim came off the bottom.

 

I also compared it to my beater ASM 28 and it was short too.

:sorry:

 

Can anyone confirm it's not some strange printing defect associated with this issue?

 

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:(

 

That outer edge sure looks spiffy, too spiffy when compared to the spine. I take it this book has no "V" effect whatsoever? Hard to tell from a scan, is a BC scan possible to compare overhang?

 

The size does not bother me as much as how clean it looks. And have you checked it for CT as well?

 

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I checked the insides and noticed:

 

1) Staples look OK and book doesn't appear to have been disassembled unless they did a super job putting them back in place.

 

2) Book is mis-wrapped on the inside. First eight pages have some of the story art trimmed into while the last eight have a large white margin along the right side.

 

Haven't pulled out the black light yet.

Will do that now... :whistle:

 

I'll chect for the "V" effect too.

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Aces

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I hope it is not trimmed and you are happy with it.

 

And NO it's not because I want your undercopy.

lol

 

Looks like you'll have to wait.

 

My black light died.

Cheap "made in China" krap!

 

Anybody know a were to buy a good one that isn't too expensive? :shy:

 

Looking again at the edges:

 

Top looks good with a little over-hang in place with a inwards "V" effect.

 

Bottom and right right edge look bad with absolutely no over-hang and the pages look razor smooth (No "V"), like a paperback book.

 

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Do you plan to confront the seller now that you've sold it?

 

In response to the above post. You're not saying that CGC can detect all trimming are you? I think someone named Ewert would disagree.

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Do you plan to confront the seller now that you've sold it?

 

No.

I expected a full refund if it didn't sell here.

It was Heritage and I bought a bunch of other stuff that was A-OK including a sweet Fine ASM 25 and that TTA 40 I posted in the SA TTA thread.

 

I will contune buying from them. They are my number two favorite spot behind this place. eBay keeps getting worse hiding the shill bidders on anything good.

 

I bought lots of raw stuff off them over the years and this was the first time I spotted restro/trimming but most of the stuff I buy is mid-grade and $50 - $100 Fines aren't normally the target of monkey business.

 

It's just the cursed issue; ASM 28 is the most restored book in the SA short of some of the big Keys like AF 15.

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I'm not sure that comparing the size of a book with another, even if it's the same issue, is a reliable method to detect trimming... :gossip:

 

It isn't. :sumo:

 

Not the final straw no, but it made me suspicious.

The scan was the only thing I could post here.

The perfectly smooth right and bottom edges won't scan well.

:insane:

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Do you plan to confront the seller now that you've sold it?

 

No.

I expected a full refund if it didn't sell here.

It was Heritage and I bought a bunch of other stuff that was A-OK including a sweet Fine ASM 25 and that TTA 40 I posted in the SA TTA thread.

 

I will contune buying from them. They are my number two favorite spot behind this place. eBay keeps getting worse hiding the shill bidders on anything good.

 

I bought lots of raw stuff off them over the years and this was the first time I spotted restro/trimming but most of the stuff I buy is mid-grade and $50 - $100 Fines aren't normally the target of monkey business.

 

It's just the cursed issue; ASM 28 is the most restored book in the SA short of some of the big Keys like AF 15.

I would advocate at least notifying them. Even if you don't want compensation, they might like to know that their source had a possibly trimmed book.
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Well at least you don't have evidence of a "worm hole" in it. (yes, it appears as though some sort of bug made a nice little hole in mine. I'll have to post a scan some time.

 

Sorry to hear you got hosed with a trim job on this issue- definitely a hard one to find in a really presentable condition.

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Do you plan to confront the seller now that you've sold it?

 

No.

I expected a full refund if it didn't sell here.

It was Heritage and I bought a bunch of other stuff that was A-OK including a sweet Fine ASM 25 and that TTA 40 I posted in the SA TTA thread.

 

I will contune buying from them. They are my number two favorite spot behind this place. eBay keeps getting worse hiding the shill bidders on anything good.

 

I bought lots of raw stuff off them over the years and this was the first time I spotted restro/trimming but most of the stuff I buy is mid-grade and $50 - $100 Fines aren't normally the target of monkey business.

 

It's just the cursed issue; ASM 28 is the most restored book in the SA short of some of the big Keys like AF 15.

I would advocate at least notifying them. Even if you don't want compensation, they might like to know that their source had a possibly trimmed book.

I agree.

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