Original art question

[FlyingDonut]

What's the current value on this? Just want to know how much of a premium I'm going to pay.

[sborock]

$1500 to $2000?

[OldGuy]

Can't help you, but that is one (two) killer piece.

[Kermit]

expensive but gorgeous...worth every penny,.

 

Go get it!!!

[valiantman]

Along the same lines of questioning...

 

Does anyone have a good guess on this one?

 

Valiant memories (as painful as they might be) should plant this cover

at the top of the list for importance to the Valiant universe...

and in a more general question, what do colors normally get vs. inks?

 

I know squat about original art buying, as you might have guessed.

[OldGuy]

For a color guide?! Those Valiant collectors are crazier then GA collectors.

[valiantman]

For a color guide?! Those Valiant collectors are crazier then GA collectors.

Is a color guide the original hand-painted colors?

Or is it a copy (shrunk/enlarged) of hand-painted colors?

[OldGuy]

For a color guide?! Those Valiant collectors are crazier then GA collectors.

Is a color guide the original hand-painted colors?

Or is it a copy (shrunk/enlarged) of hand-painted colors?

 

I'm not the most qualified guy to answer this question, but it is not the same as the original cover art, that's for sure. I think it is original in it's own right, but these usually sell for a tiny fraction of the actual art. Someone on these boards collects them (I forget who) so maybe they'll chime in on this.

[valiantman]

I think it is original in it's own right, but these usually sell for a tiny fraction of the actual art.

"Actual art" being the inks, right?

 

So, in general, the "top dollar" goes to the original cover inks (Kirby)...

or to a fully-painted original cover (Frazetta)?

[OldGuy]

Correct.

[PovertyRow]

Is a color guide the original hand-painted colors?

 

It is not original. When the 4-color art is scanned, 4 negatives result. Those 4 negatives have a dot pattern on them (look at a comic under a magnifying glass and you will see the dot pattern). There are various chemical systems: Color-Key, Chromalin and others, designed to take those 4 color negatives (yellow, magenta, cyan and black) and "print" them. In the case of a color-key, there are 4 individual transparent sheets with one of the 4 colors on each sheet. Overlay these 4 sheets and you have a 4-color image. The chromalin type system is similar, and requires 4 exposures as does the color key, but the end result is a single sheet where the four layers are "fused", so to speak, into a single cohesive image.

 

Either way, not original art, but from an interesting phase of production, nonetheless.

[PovertyRow]

Is a color guide the original hand-painted colors?

 

It is not original. When the 4-color art is scanned, 4 negatives result. Those 4 negatives have a dot pattern on them (look at a comic under a magnifying glass and you will see the dot pattern). There are various chemical systems: Color-Key, Chromalin and others, designed to take those 4 color negatives (yellow, magenta, cyan and black) and "print" them. In the case of a color-key, there are 4 individual transparent sheets with one of the 4 colors on each sheet. Overlay these 4 sheets and you have a 4-color image. The chromalin type system is similar, and requires 4 exposures as does the color key, but the end result is a single sheet where the four layers are "fused", so to speak, into a single cohesive image.

 

Either way, not original art, but from an interesting phase of production, nonetheless.

 

Also, you can create a color-key or a chromalin from final negatives (after all the text, graphics etc. have been combined) - you still end up with 4 negatives but on these the artwork, title, price boxes, etc etc etc are all there - it is just like looking at a printed cover. But again, this is repro and not original.

[Fan4Fan]

What's the current value on this? Just want to know how much of a premium I'm going to pay.

 

Did you know about this before I PM'd you?

 

If I had the money for something like this, I'd easily go 1000-1200... but then I'm a tightwad. So, whoever said ~$1500 is probably right. At the current price ($810) I'd consider it a steal.

 

Thanks,

Fan4Fan

 

P.S. Good luck (and if you ever need to get rid of some of your lesser Fantastic Four pages... )

[Illiterati-migration]

What's the current value on this? Just want to know how much of a premium I'm going to pay.

 

DONUT?!?!? What are you doing buying THAT when you could have had Joanna's MAGNIFICENT Perez for nearly the same price?!?!?

[Kevin Boyd]

[uluru]

Do anyone know where can i found information about collecting original comic art?

 

[FlyingDonut]

I would have bought Joanna's piece if it had the Fantastic Four in it.