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Geez...If you want a PREACHER page...

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Nexus

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Nice to see some semblance of sanity return to the PREACHER market:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200278004048

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200278038932

 

Two things happened as a result of the recent $3K auction: 1. More pages have come out of the woodwork for sale (good!) and 2. People have an inflated idea of what their pages are worth (bad!). What many are ignoring is that at the same time that one auction closed for $3K, a bunch sold for around $500 or under (some well under). Most with Jesse and/or other main characters. The $3K page was definitely exceptional; the vast majority of PREACHER pages are not...and should be priced/valued accordingly. :wishluck:

 

 

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Nice to see some semblance of sanity return to the PREACHER market:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200278004048

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200278038932

 

Two things happened as a result of the recent $3K auction: 1. More pages have come out of the woodwork for sale (good!) and 2. People have an inflated idea of what their pages are worth (bad!). What many are ignoring is that at the same time that one auction closed for $3K, a bunch sold for around $500 or under (some well under). Most with Jesse and/or other main characters. The $3K page was definitely exceptional; the vast majority of PREACHER pages are not...and should be priced/valued accordingly. :wishluck:

 

 

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What do you think the page with the 3k reserve is worth? It was a pretty early issue with Jesse in almost every panel. How is this one worth no where near the one that sold for nearly 3k?

 

I understand there are features that make on Preacher page better than another but doesn't this one have those?

 

- early issue - #3 check

- main character - jesse check

 

What else is important?

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Are we talking about the #6 page with the 3K BIN? No idea what the reserve on it is, but it could be something like 1K right? The problem with that page is that Jesse isn't really the featured character on the page -- Si is (if I'm remembering his name) Sure Jesse's "on" the page in almost all the panels, but the page isn't a great example. I think it's worth about $550 which isn't a bad price for a Si page ;)

 

And this 3K page we're referring to that sold on Ebay was the one that sold for $2,850 right? That one I think sold high more for the Saint than anything else. It would be interesting to pit Preacher Saint pages again Preacher Jesse pages. I assume the best pay off would be pages featuring them both! :D

 

This whole thing is very interesting. Could be 2 someones really went after their Preacher "Cassidy v. Saint" grail page and one won it for $2850. (or they just really wanted the page and had the money to pay for it) I don't think it anywhere near sets a new standard for Preacher pages. You can get a much nicer example Preacher page for around 3K, believe me. I think the #3 sale on the 'Bay was an outlier.

 

 

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Agreed - the Cassidy v. Saint page must have been a perfect combination of character, dialog and style for those two bidders. The sale does show that the Preacher market is healthy and gaining ground, but it shouldn't be used as an excuse for eBayers to mark up ok early pages 500% (like the BIN on the Si page from #6).

 

I actually wouldn't pay $500 for that Jesse/Allfather page on ebay - that seemed like a solid price to me.

 

I wonder what that Preacher #12 splash went for on CAF? :whistle:

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Agreed - the Cassidy v. Saint page must have been a perfect combination of character, dialog and style for those two bidders. The sale does show that the Preacher market is healthy and gaining ground, but it shouldn't be used as an excuse for eBayers to mark up ok early pages 500% (like the BIN on the Si page from #6).

 

Absolutely. Of course, it's that one auction that's being used as justification for out-of-whack pricing...meanwhile all the other auctions that finished at the same time for $500 or under (and which more accurately reflect the market for similar pages) are conveniently ignored.

 

I actually wouldn't pay $500 for that Jesse/Allfather page on ebay - that seemed like a solid price to me.

 

I wouldn't pay $500 for that page, either. The seller did well on that page.

 

I wonder what that Preacher #12 splash went for on CAF? :whistle:

 

Heh, heh (thumbs u Now there's a page that's actually worth the price paid. Congrats!

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Transferring this discussion from the Marketplace thread:

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2757673&Board=53&fpart=all&gonew=1#UNREAD

 

More or less than you expected?

 

I really had no idea how many I would sell, but I think I sold less than expected. But then some would argue my pricing was a tad aggressive. (shrug)

And I thought I made posts/bumps just under the line of annoyance and made it clear that the sale would end on Sunday, but I am still getting inquiries as late as this morning. Is two weeks too short of a time frame?

 

Perhaps it is an indicator that the PREACHER art market is softening and I'll be able to pick up a few pages in '09 to replace the ones I just parted with.

 

Now that the sale is over, I'll throw in my 2c.

 

I was one of the people Mike contacted to get help with appraising the pages he was selling. Although I don't know Mike well, I agreed to assist. I priced each of the 90 pages. I knew Mike wanted top, top dollar-- so I priced accordingly while still trying to keep them within reason. As it turned out, Mike had even loftier goals and more or less doubled my values as his sale prices. I certainly didn't take that personally...my appraisal is just an opinion and ultimately, they're his pages and he can ask whatever he wants. But I was not surprised that only a handful sold.

 

The lack of response to the sale had less to do with the number of post/bumps or the length of the sale and had everything to do with the aggressive pricing. That combined with the sheer number of pages being offered at once. My opinion.

 

I also wouldn't take this as any indication that the PREACHER market is softening. On the contrary, the prime pages are now over $1K (and sometimes much more, depending on the page). Average, run-of-the mill pages (especially if they lack main characters) though, are around $200. But even that's a nice bump from the recent past for those pages. Just not has much as Mike had hoped for his batch. Sellers (including those for the recent unsuccessful Ebay auctions) may *think* (or hope others think) they have prime pages...the market will let them know.

 

The way I see it, there are two ways to go about selling: 1. Really make an effort to sell and price realistically (or better yet, put it up on Ebay as a true no reserve auction and let the market decide) or 2. Leave it up in your gallery until someone meets your price. Maybe no one will ever meet your price...but if you're pricing high above current market value, it's probably a good idea to give it longer than two weeks for the market to catch up.

 

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The lack of response to the sale had less to do with the number of post/bumps or the length of the sale and had everything to do with the aggressive pricing. That combined with the sheer number of pages being offered at once. My opinion.

 

Mine as well, though I differ with the volume. Volume had nothing to do with it. Also, by placing a time limit on the deal I would think that generated a minor moment of panic and maybe created a sale that wouldn't have otherwise been generated.

 

I'd take a Preacher page. But I know what I'm willing to pay for the content. If those never meet, I'll be content to not own a Preacher page.

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For the last several months, some people have been speculating that the art market will face a big correction and that prices will drop. As well, I noted in this thread that a lot of people are overvaluing PREACHER pages based on one $3K auction. Both theories have converged and the proof is on Ebay. Some really great PREACHER pages have been fetching just a fraction of what they would have months ago.

 

Case in point, this awesome Saint of Killers page sold for a measly $550:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120365237948

 

These sold for even less, only $100 each. All great examples, especially the page from issue #1:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110339839336

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110339840339

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110339840993

 

Oh wait...all "Buy-It-Nows".

 

doh!

 

Never mind.

 

:frustrated:

 

:cry:

 

 

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KAMIKAWA

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Gents, I'm not sure if its cool I post in this thread, I've frequented it myself, anyway, I dropping definently 1 if not 2 of my Preacher pages, I've never sold to anyone on the board here so I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to that, but we can talk about that if and when anyone contacts me with offers for the page(s). If this is the WRONG place to post this, mods just get rid of this post and sorry for the mix up.

 

This certainly breaks my heart to part with-

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Page=1&Order=Date&Piece=196873&GSub=31031&GCat=0&UCat=0

 

and I reckon Im entertaining offers on this one too-

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Page=1&Order=Date&Piece=310700&GSub=31031&GCat=0&UCat=0

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