showcase22gr1959 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Updated list 1/23/10 145 days before Green Lantern Movie June 17th, 2011 SC22 index 2604.95 3/22/10 up 5% SC22 index 2735.20 4/14/10 down 2% SC22 index 2680.50 7/20/10 up 3% SC22 index 2760.91 11/18/10 up 3% SC22 index 2843.74 12/13/10 up approximately 225% 2009 up approximately 15% 2010 Top high grade holders and sales of CGC Showcase 22: (346 graded by CGC: 268 universal , 2 qualified , 78 restored 9.0 Four Color (sold on ComicLink) ow 9.0 Heritage auction ow Gary Keller copy 8.5 Showcase22gr1959 from threads crm/ow 8.5 Nicolas Cage Heritage auction crm/ow 8.5 Doc Joe from threads crm/ow 8.5 Comiclink crm/ow (8.0 upgraded to an 8.5 former Mound City copy) 8.0 Metropolis Comics private sale 8.0 Savannah ow 8.0 Private collector 8.0 Private collector 7.5 Johnnyhedge from thread ow/w 7.5 showcase22gr1959 from threads ow 7.5 Palamas from threads crm/ow 7.5 Private collector 7.5 Private collector 7.0 Foolkiller from threads ow sold on Metropolis site 7.0 SilverRich from threads crm/ow 7.0 Heritage auction crm/ow 7.0 ComicLink crm/ow 7.0 ComicLink lt/ow 7.0 Private collector 7.0 Private collector 7.0 Private collector 7.0 Private collector 7.0 Private collector 7.0 Private collector 6.5 ComicLink ow/w 6.5 ComicLink ow 6.5 Gator ow/Ebay 6.5 sufunk crm/ow 6.5 ComicLink crm/ow 6.5 ComicLink crm/ow 6.0 Showcase22gr1959 from thread white 6.0 M. Wilson (dizneyart) ebay auction ow/w 6.0 Heritage auction crm/ow 6.0 Nikelspot from threads crm/ow 6.0 Gregreece lt/ow 6.0 Private collector 6.0 Private collector 6.0 Private collector 6.0 Private collector 6.0 Private collector 6.0 Private collector 6.0 Private collector Record sales 2009/2010/2011 9.0 Heritage auction ow Gary Keller copy 11/20/09 $59750 8.5 crm/ow Comiclink (former Mound City) 2/17/10 $17250.00 8.0 crm/ow Mound City copy 11/1/09 $17850.00 7.5 Peewee2 boardie/ComicLink ow/w $12995 4/11/10 7.0 ow Foolkiller 12/30/09 $9000 confirmed by GPA 6.5 crm/ow ComicLink 12/13/10 $7050 6.0 lt/ow boardie 9/28/09 $4500 5.5 ow Heritage 2/25/10 $4481.25 5.0 ow Heritage 2/25/10 $3107.00 4.5 ltn/ow Metropolis Comics 4/26/10 $2195 4.0 crm/ow Ebay 4/25/10 $1950 3.5 crm/ow Ebay 12/5/10 $1650.00 3.0 ow Ebay 11/6/10 $1395 2.5 lt/ow Comic Link $1050 11/9/09 2.0 ow Ebay 1/12/11 $825 2.0 crm/ow Comic Link $825 1/9/10 1.8 sl. brittle pages Ebay $600 11/10/10 (same copy CL)8/29/10 1.5 crm/ow Ebay $430.00 7/26/10 1.0 crm/ow boardie 10/08/09 $225 Notable sales 2009/2010/2011 7.5 ow Ebay $12369.99 12/9/10 7.5 ow/w Gator ( to Peewee2 boardie) 8/09 $10500 6.5 ow Ebay $6500.00 8/8/10 6.5 crm/ow Comic Link 12/28/09 $6100 6.5 crm/ow G.A.tor private sale $6000 6.5 crm/ow Quality 11/22/09 $5000 6.0 crm/ow Comiclink 8/25/10 $4060 6.0 crm/ow Ebay 1/20/11 $2495 sold for less than FMV 5.5 ow/w boardie $4300 7/31/10 5.5 ow Ebay 10/4/09 $3995.00 (same copy sold on 9/05/09) 5.5 ow Ebay 9/5/09 $3803.64 5.0 ow Comic Connect 9/26/09 $3100 5.0 ow boardie $3000 8/5/10 5.0 crm/ow Quality Comics $2875 8/22/10 5.0 crm Ebay 5/19/10 $2800 5.0 Quality Comics crm/ow 10/5/09 $2751 4.5 crm/ow Comic Link $2051 1/20/11 4.5 crm/ow ComicLink 11/29/10 $1950 4.5 ow/w Heritage $1912 11/28/10 4.5 crm/ow ComicLink 4/14/10 $1900 (same copy sold on Ebay 1/14/10) 4.5 crm/ow boardie 12/13/09 $1900 4.5 crm/ow Ebay 10/18/10 $1880 4.5 crm/ow Ebay 11/9/10 $1850 4.5 crm/ow Comiclink 7/30/10 $1850 4.5 crm/ow Ebay 5/24/10 $1750 4.5 ow Ebay 1/14/10 $1680.00 (same copy sold on Pedigree 1/10) 4.5 crm/ow Ebay 6/13/10 $1679 4.5 crm/ow Ebay 7/8/10 $1585 4.5 crm/ow ComicLink $1576.00 4.5 crm/ow boardie 2/28/10 $1400 4.5 ow Pedigree comics 1/10 $1400 4.5 lt/ow Comic Connect 9/26/09 $1501 4.5 crm/ow Ebay 10/2/10 $1500 same copy sold on 8/25/10 4.5 crm/ow Ebay $1030 8/25/10 4.0 crm/ow boardie 8/23/09 $1700 4.0 crm/ow boardie 9/18/09 $1700 4.0 crm/ow Comiclink 9/23/10 $1206 4.0 ow ComicLink 2/17/10 $1100 4.0 crm/ow Ebay 2/10/10 $1394.62 3.5 crm/ow Ebay 12/10/10 $1600 3.5 ow Ebay 4/26/10 $1500 3.5 ow Ebay 10/4/09 $1400 3.5 ow Quality Comics 11/8/09 $1001 3.5 crm/ow Comiclink 8/25/10 $1000 3.5 crm/ow Ebay 2/23/10 $920 3.0 lt/ow Ebay 1/28/10 $1299.99 3.0 lt/ow Ebay 10/9/09 $1295 (same copy sold on CL 9/14/09) 3.0 ow Ebay 10/27/09 $1250 3.0 ow/w boardie 7/25/10 $1200 3.0 ow boardie 9/19/09 $1150 3.0 lt/ow ComicLink 9/14/09 $1125 3.0 crm/ow ComicLink 10/4/09 $1100 3.0 crm/ow Ebay 9/20/09 $961.02 3.0 ow Ebay 9/29/09 $911.00 3.0 crm/ow Ebay 10/3/10 $896 2.5 ow Ebay 1/18/11 $1000 2.5 lt/ow boardie 9/19/09 $750 2.0 crm/ow Ebay 3/4/10 $700 2.0 crm/ow Ebay 8/29/10 $700 2.0 ow Ebay 10/4/10 $690 2.0 crm/ow Ebay 10/30/10 $659.24 2.0 crm/ow Ebay 5/5/10 $625 2.0 crm/ow Ebay 6/12/10 $612 2.0 ow Ebay 2/10/10 $610 2.0 crm/ow boardie 9/19/09 $600 2.0 crm/ow boardie 9/19/09 $600 2.0 ow Quality Comics 2/22/10 $425 1.8 white pages Ebay $599.99 8/24/10 1.8 slightly brittle pages Comiclink 8/29/10 $550.00 Edited January 24, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Nostalgia aka Nikelspot Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, I was fortunate enough to grab it. The seller was very nice and a stand up guy. He didn't tell me, but I have a feeling that someone contacted him after I bought the book and told him that it is worth considerably more than the selling price. When he sent me the tracking # he told me that I should make a nice profit on it. He didn't seem vindictive and he honored the sell with great service. It was either that he wanted to move the book fast or someone contacted him. As far as selling the books goes, I am going to decide this week. As far as the book itself goes, if it wasn't for the chip missing at the top this book would have been higher. At least 7.0, But I would not rule out 8.0. Great Colors and Structure. I will have some more pics soon. The pics in the original listing do not do this book justice. I took this one on my iphone yesterday after I received it in the mail. Congrats! Green Lanterns says "Welcome to the the club." Right on! Thank you, sir. Maybe one day I can have a stash like yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I was fortunate enough to grab it. The seller was very nice and a stand up guy. He didn't tell me, but I have a feeling that someone contacted him after I bought the book and told him that it is worth considerably more than the selling price. When he sent me the tracking # he told me that I should make a nice profit on it. He didn't seem vindictive and he honored the sell with great service. It was either that he wanted to move the book fast or someone contacted him. As far as selling the books goes, I am going to decide this week. As far as the book itself goes, if it wasn't for the chip missing at the top this book would have been higher. At least 7.0, But I would not rule out 8.0. Great Colors and Structure. I will have some more pics soon. The pics in the original listing do not do this book justice. I took this one on my iphone yesterday after I received it in the mail. Congrats! Green Lanterns says "Welcome to the the club." Right on! Thank you, sir. Maybe one day I can have a stash like yours Thanks. Your were there at the right time and to score a 6.0 at a bargain price is an anomaly. Be proud and you are now part of the 6.0+ club. Edited January 24, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hepcat Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 But the same holds true about SC 22. I always thought it was a top 5 DC Silver age book. But I guess it took everyone else 50 years to figure that out. I think most semi-knowledgeable collectors have always had it as a SA DC Top 5 book. But that didn`t translate into a high value, since being top 5 SA DC in comic collecting circles is kind of like being in the top 5 at Cal Tech... in football. But weren't you just chastising somebody else about things not always being about the money? If the philistines don't appreciate Green Lantern, well screw them. And their mothers probably throw rocks at airplanes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Nostalgia aka Nikelspot Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, I was fortunate enough to grab it. The seller was very nice and a stand up guy. He didn't tell me, but I have a feeling that someone contacted him after I bought the book and told him that it is worth considerably more than the selling price. When he sent me the tracking # he told me that I should make a nice profit on it. He didn't seem vindictive and he honored the sell with great service. It was either that he wanted to move the book fast or someone contacted him. As far as selling the books goes, I am going to decide this week. As far as the book itself goes, if it wasn't for the chip missing at the top this book would have been higher. At least 7.0, But I would not rule out 8.0. Great Colors and Structure. I will have some more pics soon. The pics in the original listing do not do this book justice. I took this one on my iphone yesterday after I received it in the mail. Congrats! Green Lanterns says "Welcome to the the club." Right on! Thank you, sir. Maybe one day I can have a stash like yours Thanks. Your were there at the right time and to score a 6.0 at a bargain price is an anomaly. Be proud and you are now part of the 6.0+ club. Very Nice! Thank you my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Loves Gwen Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, I was fortunate enough to grab it. The seller was very nice and a stand up guy. He didn't tell me, but I have a feeling that someone contacted him after I bought the book and told him that it is worth considerably more than the selling price. When he sent me the tracking # he told me that I should make a nice profit on it. He didn't seem vindictive and he honored the sell with great service. It was either that he wanted to move the book fast or someone contacted him. As far as selling the books goes, I am going to decide this week. As far as the book itself goes, if it wasn't for the chip missing at the top this book would have been higher. At least 7.0, But I would not rule out 8.0. Great Colors and Structure. I will have some more pics soon. The pics in the original listing do not do this book justice. I took this one on my iphone yesterday after I received it in the mail. That does look very nice other than the crease and chip there. Keep it for a while, the market should tell you whether it's destined to go up more soon, or to level off. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 But the same holds true about SC 22. I always thought it was a top 5 DC Silver age book. But I guess it took everyone else 50 years to figure that out. I think most semi-knowledgeable collectors have always had it as a SA DC Top 5 book. But that didn`t translate into a high value, since being top 5 SA DC in comic collecting circles is kind of like being in the top 5 at Cal Tech... in football. But weren't you just chastising somebody else about things not always being about the money? If the philistines don't appreciate Green Lantern, well screw them. And their mothers probably throw rocks at airplanes too. I wasn`t complaining about it, just pointing out the reality that in terms of value, SA DCs are 2nd class citizens behind their Marvel counterparts. I have no issues with that--it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 But the same holds true about SC 22. I always thought it was a top 5 DC Silver age book. But I guess it took everyone else 50 years to figure that out. I think most semi-knowledgeable collectors have always had it as a SA DC Top 5 book. But that didn`t translate into a high value, since being top 5 SA DC in comic collecting circles is kind of like being in the top 5 at Cal Tech... in football. But weren't you just chastising somebody else about things not always being about the money? If the philistines don't appreciate Green Lantern, well screw them. And their mothers probably throw rocks at airplanes too. I wasn`t complaining about it, just pointing out the reality that in terms of value, SA DCs are 2nd class citizens behind their Marvel counterparts. I have no issues with that--it is what it is. It is the opposite with GA where the DC keys rule the roost. Both companies had their "strong" periods that we can all appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, I was fortunate enough to grab it. The seller was very nice and a stand up guy. He didn't tell me, but I have a feeling that someone contacted him after I bought the book and told him that it is worth considerably more than the selling price. When he sent me the tracking # he told me that I should make a nice profit on it. He didn't seem vindictive and he honored the sell with great service. It was either that he wanted to move the book fast or someone contacted him. As far as selling the books goes, I am going to decide this week. As far as the book itself goes, if it wasn't for the chip missing at the top this book would have been higher. At least 7.0, But I would not rule out 8.0. Great Colors and Structure. I will have some more pics soon. The pics in the original listing do not do this book justice. I took this one on my iphone yesterday after I received it in the mail. Much nicer looking scan, and book. Congrads on snagging the deal of the year thus far (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hepcat Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I wasn`t complaining about it, just pointing out the reality that in terms of value, SA DCs are 2nd class citizens behind their Marvel counterparts. I have no issues with that--it is what it is. In reality I'm thankful for that situation. It enables me to pick up Silver Age DCs more cheaply even though overall they're much less plentiful than Marvels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash105 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 That is a nice looking book. It proves that things can always slip through the cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 That is a nice looking book. It proves that things can always slip through the cracks. . . . and that watching ebay can net you a deal from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash105 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Watching ebay for deals almost qualifies as work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Being on the boards is helluv fun and watching on Ebay is work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash105 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Here's a question for you. Let's say there are 1000 copies of SC 22 for illustration sake. How many are in collectors hands? How many are in dealers hands? How many are for sale at the right price? How many are not for sale at any price? How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? It seemed like when AF15 went on a run that there was 7.5-8.5 for sale all the time. Now prices have stablized and they went back in hiding. Has the same happened to SC22? Is that the reason you don't see SC4 come up that often 6.0+ or is it really that tough of a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) SC #22 has always been tough to find in anything better than 6.0, and it looks like you might have to lower that bar to 5.0 since copies in that grade are not that easy to find either. I think it has more to do with the release date (1959) than anything. At that time, Ducks and Western/War books were still the main genres, with only Superman and Batman titles holding any ground on the super-hero side of things. There are more copies of SC #4 out there in 6.0+, but since the book is in a bit of a lull right now there is no need to move them. Edited January 25, 2011 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Here's a question for you. Let's say there are 1000 copies of SC 22 for illustration sake. How many are in collectors hands? How many are in dealers hands? How many are for sale at the right price? How many are not for sale at any price? How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? It seemed like when AF15 went on a run that there was 7.5-8.5 for sale all the time. Now prices have stablized and they went back in hiding. Has the same happened to SC22? Is that the reason you don't see SC4 come up that often 6.0+ or is it really that tough of a book. This had me thinking. I'll make a fun and speculated guess. How many are in collectors hands? I would image there would be 800-1000 How many are in dealers hands? This is a sizzling book for dealers to flip 10-20 copies. How many are for sale at the right price? 700-900 copies How many are not for sale at any price? less than <5 How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? 3/4 of AF15's price. Let's do a fun blue label ratio test: 5.0+ Showcase 4 37.12% Showcase 22 29.10% Showcase 22 is more scarce in 5.0+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 6.0+ Showcase 4 5.07% Showcase 22 6.09% Showcase 4 is more scarce in 6.0+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.5+ Showcase 4 12.12 % Showcase 22 5.06% Showcase 22 is more scarce in 7.5+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the ratio test SC22 is more scarce in 5.0+ SC4 is more scarce in 6.0+ SC22 is more scarce in 7.5+ Edited January 25, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) SC #22 has always been tough to find in anything better than 6.0, and it looks like you might have to lower that bar to 5.0 since copies in that grade are not that easy to find either. I think it has more to do with the release date (1959) than anything. At that time, Ducks and Western/War books were still the main genres, with only Superman and Batman titles holding any ground on the super-hero side of things. There are more copies of SC #4 out there in 6.0+, but since the book is in a bit of a lull right now there is no need to move them. Showcase 22 in 5.0's+ are the grades which will increase the most in the long run. Not trying to dampen all the <5.0 holders here. Yes, I'm also a 5.0 and under holder. Edited January 25, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash105 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So you think dealer stock is that low on the book? And that many collectors are willing to sell? Does anybody lock books away anymore? What is the average hold time on high grade books in general? So your opinon is this book has to have another big price run to see a big increase in supply like we saw in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 So you think dealer stock is that low on the book? And that many collectors are willing to sell? Does anybody lock books away anymore? What is the average hold time on high grade books in general? So your opinon is this book has to have another big price run to see a big increase in supply like we saw in 2009. I think that there will be a bunch of copies on the market in a couple of months again, but the big spike in 2009 also forced a lot of fence sitters (including me) to finally get a copy of SC #22 that will sit in collections for a long time now. It seems like that is the pattern with SA DC collectors - they buy a copy to keep for the long run. WRT high grade books, the best known copy of SC #22 to date (Clink 9.0) is locked up tight. I think that SC #22 is so hard to find in 8.0+ that if you can afford to hold it you will. That being said, over the next decade I expect a number of new HG GA and SA collections to hit the market as long time collectors or their heirs cash out. While these boards are a good representation of the active collector set, there are a lot of old timers with collections amassed in the 50s, 60s and 70s that have yet to resurface. I am hoping the next decade will see some forgotten gems come to market - even if I can't afford them, I can appreciate them. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
