Kick *spoon* - Hit Girl Mature Trailer

[jools&jim]

 

There's a place for trash. Good trash especially. And bad trash has always been around in the underground, which is precisely where it belongs. But trash in general (i.e., vulgar, sensationalistic entertainment) has a purchase on the mainstream of our culture which would have been unthinkable even a few decades ago. To point this out isn't alarmism necessarily: it's an acknowledgment that the tendency in art, as in culture in general, is always towards greater and greater license...and licentiousness.

 

Whether or not this is a good or bad thing is, I suppose, a matter of personal taste. But it IS true. And where it all ends is of course unknown. But on balance, I think I'd prefer to live in a society where it's generally considered a bad thing for a 12 year-old girl to say "f--k" and "c--t" and kill people in a blood-spattered widescreen big-budget Hollywood blockbuster starring an A-list celebrity and showing at every multiplex in the country, rather than a society which shrugs its shoulders and says "eh, it's just a story -- lighten up."

 

By the way, here's a little relevant cultural whiplash for ya: the actress playing potty-mouthed Hit Girl also does the voice for this character on a Winnie the Pooh animated kiddie show that my daughter loved a few years ago, but has since grown out of:

 

 

Ain't it a weird world we live in?

[JiveTurkeyMoFo]

fic⋅tion

 

 

sep⋅a⋅ra⋅tion

 

 

 

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My man, you are on a comic book chat forum lecturing people about separating fiction from reality?

 

 

 

What?! I am positive this girl has some real superhero powers?

IT"S REAL DAMMIT!

 

I think her superpower is to make the blood of others rush to certain places of the body in significant qualities.

[scottish]

There's a place for trash. Good trash especially. And bad trash has always been around in the underground, which is precisely where it belongs. But trash in general (i.e., vulgar, sensationalistic entertainment) has a purchase on the mainstream of our culture which would have been unthinkable even a few decades ago. To point this out isn't alarmism necessarily: it's an acknowledgment that the tendency in art, as in culture in general, is always towards greater and greater license...and licentiousness.

 

Whether or not this is a good or bad thing is, I suppose, a matter of personal taste. But it IS true. And where it all ends is of course unknown. But on balance, I think I'd prefer to live in a society where it's generally considered a bad thing for a 12 year-old girl to say "f--k" and "c--t" and kill people in a blood-spattered widescreen big-budget Hollywood blockbuster starring an A-list celebrity and showing at every multiplex in the country, rather than a society which shrugs its shoulders and says "eh, it's just a story -- lighten up."

 

By the way, here's a little relevant cultural whiplash for ya: the actress playing potty-mouthed Hit Girl also does the voice for this character on a Winnie the Pooh animated kiddie show that my daughter loved a few years ago, but has since grown out of:

 

 

Ain't it a weird world we live in?

 

I totally agree with your second paragraph. When I was a kid we knew without a doubt swearing was a no-no and we only did it when no adults were around.

 

I have to wonder what the girl's parents are thinking (and Cage as well) letting her do this type of film. While I'm not as concerned with the violence and language as a general rule (other than coming from a young girl) - it's more of the reason behind it and the belief I have to suspend in order to even remotely consider the story line as something that could be grounded in reality.

[homerwannabee]

 

 

I have to wonder what the girl's parents are thinking (and Cage as well) letting her do this type of film.

 

They are probably thinking "Ca ching!" If you had the guts enough to see Bruno, there was an excellent part in the movie where Bruno is talking to real life parents, and asking them if it would be OK for their 2 year olds to do the most amazingly horrific things. Amazingly they were able to get a few parents who seemed to have no problem with their children being exploited to the nth degree.

 

 

Here is the clip

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9qK5EYRSz0

[scottish]

 

 

I have to wonder what the girl's parents are thinking (and Cage as well) letting her do this type of film.

 

They are probably thinking "Ca ching!" If you had the guts enough to see Bruno, there was an excellent part in the movie where Bruno is talking to real life parents, and asking them if it would be OK for their 2 year olds to do the most amazingly horrific things. Amazingly they were able to get a few parents who seemed to have no problem with their children being exploited to the nth degree.

 

 

Here is the clip

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9qK5EYRSz0

 

Ah the undeniable draw of money.

[comix4fun]

 

 

I have to wonder what the girl's parents are thinking (and Cage as well) letting her do this type of film.

 

They are probably thinking "Ca ching!" If you had the guts enough to see Bruno, there was an excellent part in the movie where Bruno is talking to real life parents, and asking them if it would be OK for their 2 year olds to do the most amazingly horrific things. Amazingly they were able to get a few parents who seemed to have no problem with their children being exploited to the nth degree.

 

 

Here is the clip

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9qK5EYRSz0

 

 

 

Wow that clip made me nauseous.

 

I feel the urge to do violence to those parents, or to at least ask them if they would subject themselves to "bees, wasps, and hornets" as they would their children.

 

 

[hockey&comicsguy]

I will probably go see this movie. Not expecting too much. Probably should read the book. Anyway, the hit girl trailer did make me cringe a bit in all honesty. I'm 32 years old and am as foul mouthed as anybody if the mood strikes me. I will admit though, hearing that little girl say the f word and the c word did make me cringe a bit. I dunno, just seems kind of wrong for a little girl to say that, especially the c word. I made the mistake of letting that one out once in earshot of my wife, if I recall it was in jest and not pointed to her but man was she ticked. I understand why looking back on it and am thankful there weren't any hockey sticks laying around as i'd have been picking up some of my teeth off the floor had' she gotten her hands on one.

[Ijiwaru Sensei]

all i'm saying is, i never understand why people get so riled up about movies.

 

take it for what it is and leave it at that.

 

 

 

And I don't understand why people get riled up over criticism of films that celebrate violence.

[comix4fun]

I will probably go see this movie. Not expecting too much. Probably should read the book. Anyway, the hit girl trailer did make me cringe a bit in all honesty. I'm 32 years old and am as foul mouthed as anybody if the mood strikes me. I will admit though, hearing that little girl say the f word and the c word did make me cringe a bit. I dunno, just seems kind of wrong for a little girl to say that, especially the c word. I made the mistake of letting that one out once in earshot of my wife, if I recall it was in jest and not pointed to her but man was she ticked. I understand why looking back on it and am thankful there weren't any hockey sticks laying around as i'd have been picking up some of my teeth off the floor had' she gotten her hands on one.

 

 

 

Not really defending having children talk like that, but, wasn't she speaking with a British accent the whole time she was in costume?

 

The "C" word seems to be used a lot in British cinema and from reports is a common insult. It still feels totally wrong, but I don't know how a word like that is worked into the slang vocab of other countries. Is it as offensive there as it is here?

 

Also, have you seen how 12 year olds talk to each other these days, especially when they think their parents can't hear them? I would not shock me if Hit-Girl's language is tame by American junior and high school standards.

[Ijiwaru Sensei]

I will probably go see this movie. Not expecting too much. Probably should read the book. Anyway, the hit girl trailer did make me cringe a bit in all honesty. I'm 32 years old and am as foul mouthed as anybody if the mood strikes me. I will admit though, hearing that little girl say the f word and the c word did make me cringe a bit. I dunno, just seems kind of wrong for a little girl to say that, especially the c word. I made the mistake of letting that one out once in earshot of my wife, if I recall it was in jest and not pointed to her but man was she ticked. I understand why looking back on it and am thankful there weren't any hockey sticks laying around as i'd have been picking up some of my teeth off the floor had' she gotten her hands on one.

 

 

 

Also, have you seen how 12 year olds talk to each other these days, especially when they think their parents can't hear them? I would not shock me if Hit-Girl's language is tame by American junior and high school standards.

 

You are very likely quite right on this point.

[User 01001010]

all i'm saying is, i never understand why people get so riled up about movies.

 

take it for what it is and leave it at that.

 

 

 

And I don't understand why people get riled up over criticism of films that celebrate violence.

 

 

i'm calm, you can talk and talk about how this is trash or that is worthless and then there will be me. i like trashy movies just as much as i enjoy serious movies.

 

since i watch a brood spectrum of movies, or maybe i am so desensitized to violence that nothing to me is shocking or offensive.

 

i just want to watch movies, regardless if it has nudity, uber violence or cannibalism. if the story sucks, that is a different matter. if the movie is hard to watch and disturbing but the story is powerful and a plain good movie, then what? is it art or explotation? nah...it's just a movie.

 

a little girl saying cant, big deal. i don't see a lot of tweeners dropping their miley cd's and running out to see this in april. i also don't see the same tweeners spouting cant to everyone they see after the movie.

 

i watch and write violent material, but yet i haven't been in a fight since my last year of high school (1992) so does that mean i am more prone to it?

[jools&jim]

 

I would not shock me if Hit-Girl's language is tame by American junior and high school standards.

 

That's probably true. And the internet has made it easier than ever for savvy and (understandably) curious kids of all ages to get a quick and easy education on the finer points of profanity, sex, drugs, and all the other stuff that makes life interesting...and messy. But this has always been true to some extent: porn, booze, drugs, and sex could always be found by kids who knew where and when to look for them.

 

But that's not the point. The point is that many taboos which were once underground and took some effort and ingenuity to find (and to hide from your parents) are now only a touch or two away on your iPhone, or glowing in all their lurid widescreen glory at your local "family" movie theater. And, far from being hidden, they are in many cases openly celebrated (and indeed praised) in film, music, and other media as high art, or, alternatively, dismissed by their creators (and consumers) as harmless fantasies, with no lingering cultural effects whatsoever.

 

No matter how you evaluate this sort of thing morally, it's nevertheless true that the gutter has become an increasingly acceptable part of our mainstream entertainment over the course of the past 50 years or so, and that the lines between the demimonde and the surface world--the world of a pre-teen actress portraying a foul-mouthed assassin and that same mouth giving voice to a Winnie-the-Pooh kiddie cartoon character--are blurrier than ever before, and getting blurrier still.

 

To say that this represents the end of civilization as we know it is silly and mostly empty rhetoric; to say that it doesn't matter at all, and that there isn't a price to pay for cultural changes such as these, is wishful thinking at best...

 

 

[Schmakt]

No matter how you evaluate this sort of thing morally, it's nevertheless true that the gutter has become an increasingly acceptable part of our mainstream entertainment over the course of the past 50 years or so, and that the lines between the demimonde and the surface world--the world of a pre-teen actress portraying a foul-mouthed assassin and that same mouth giving voice to a Winnie-the-Pooh kiddie cartoon character--are blurrier than ever before, and getting blurrier still.

 

spot-on!

 

I, for one, am all for it... especially when it comes to language. a word is a word is a word, and I've never understood how someone could be offended by a particular sound coming out of someone else's mouth.

 

I like blurry lines a lot... the price I see being paid is twofold:

 

a) "innocent" children become jaded "adults" much quicker

 

b) a certain section of culture is lost

 

It's just that, for me, I'm glad to see the line-drawing culture become less and less prominent. Perhaps b/c I have no kids of my own... perhaps b/c I was raised in the church and now feel like a lot of my life was wasted in sensationalized mythology instead of sensationalized fun.

 

At least the sensationalized fun doesn't take itself so seriously and actively attempt to make children shape their lives around its ideals "or else."

 

Sorry.

[jools&jim]

No matter how you evaluate this sort of thing morally, it's nevertheless true that the gutter has become an increasingly acceptable part of our mainstream entertainment over the course of the past 50 years or so, and that the lines between the demimonde and the surface world--the world of a pre-teen actress portraying a foul-mouthed assassin and that same mouth giving voice to a Winnie-the-Pooh kiddie cartoon character--are blurrier than ever before, and getting blurrier still.

 

spot-on!

 

I, for one, am all for it... especially when it comes to language. a word is a word is a word, and I've never understood how someone could be offended by a particular sound coming out of someone else's mouth.

 

I like blurry lines a lot... the price I see being paid is twofold:

 

a) "innocent" children become jaded "adults" much quicker

 

b) a certain section of culture is lost

 

It's just that, for me, I'm glad to see the line-drawing culture become less and less prominent. Perhaps b/c I have no kids of my own... perhaps b/c I was raised in the church and now feel like a lot of my life was wasted in sensationalized mythology instead of sensationalized fun.

 

At least the sensationalized fun doesn't take itself so seriously and actively attempt to make children shape their lives around its ideals "or else."

 

Sorry.

 

Nice one, man! I don't agree with you, but at least you're honest!!! (thumbs u

 

 

[MedicAR]

oh hell yeah...

 

 

 

link to CBR:http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24146

I'm not real sure......I think I'm offended. It happens so rarely though, I can't be certain. lolI'm sure I'll see it at some point!

[VintageComics]

No matter how you evaluate this sort of thing morally, it's nevertheless true that the gutter has become an increasingly acceptable part of our mainstream entertainment over the course of the past 50 years or so, and that the lines between the demimonde and the surface world--the world of a pre-teen actress portraying a foul-mouthed assassin and that same mouth giving voice to a Winnie-the-Pooh kiddie cartoon character--are blurrier than ever before, and getting blurrier still.

 

spot-on!

 

I, for one, am all for it... especially when it comes to language. a word is a word is a word, and I've never understood how someone could be offended by a particular sound coming out of someone else's mouth.

 

I like blurry lines a lot... the price I see being paid is twofold:

 

a) "innocent" children become jaded "adults" much quicker

 

b) a certain section of culture is lost

 

It's just that, for me, I'm glad to see the line-drawing culture become less and less prominent. Perhaps b/c I have no kids of my own... perhaps b/c I was raised in the church and now feel like a lot of my life was wasted in sensationalized mythology instead of sensationalized fun.

 

At least the sensationalized fun doesn't take itself so seriously and actively attempt to make children shape their lives around its ideals "or else."

 

Sorry.

 

I can completely relate to your experience with your upbringing as my parents where extremely strict, old fashioned, Eastern European and conservative. I had my ears pulled, my butt whipped and my dad insisted I stay away from girls well into my teenage years. Not very realistic or empowering for a young man. Especially when he caught me masturbating.

 

 

Having said that I have learned to think for myself and live life to the fullest in spite of it. It just took a little soul searching on my own. Now I work hard when it's time for work and I party hard when it's time to party. Just ask any forum member who's met me at a con.

 

 

I think what we are discussing in this thread is an entirely different dynamic in society.

 

We're talking about openly exposing children to something that they are not yet equipped to deal with and finding entertainment in it.

 

As a 39 year old adult, if you want to talk to me about porn, what you did in Vegas (and believe me what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, baby!!), swear words and extreme violence I have no problem with that. If you want to find entertainment in that stuff, well, that is your call, but you are better equipped to dealing with it, and it's consequences than a young child is.

 

I have 4 kids, now aged 8-14, and let me tell you that there are some things kids are not meant to be burdened with at a young, tender, formative age. There is a reason some things are not for children. They can't handle it.

 

They will have plenty of time to deal with that stuff later when they are not forming morals, sexual boundaries and learning about social interaction.

 

I believe in giving my kids real life tools that will make them better and stronger members of society. That is why guys like Mike and me might be disappointed with what kids find entertaining these days.

 

The meaning of this whole rant?

 

Kids and adults are worlds apart.

 

 

[Aman619]

this trailer looks cool. and while Ive been reading and enjoying the comic, how perfect is this subject matter for a film today? kids/teens, superheroes, but real (no powers) and treated (sorta) realistically (Hit girls is Batmanny good, which aint real.)

 

unless it falls apart, the film oughtta do gangbusters... I wonder how it ends? High note? Kick retires? Kickass joins a JLA of kids? ZKck is last one alive and in the hospital.. (drinking thru a straw in a full body suit (again) smiling?

[ChemEng]

IMO, the point of the comic was to show that there are, in fact, serious consequences to trying to be a superhero and taking on crime as a vigilante. Sure, there will be gratuitous violence, but I think it gets the point across. That is, only a crazy person would try to be a superhero. Mark Millar explores a couple of the personalities of real-life crazies that could lead to this, and I think he's does a pretty good job of only stretching reality a little bit (From the trailer, it looks like the movie stretches it a little more)

 

I thought the scene that was in the Big Daddy preview was one of the most jaw-dropping scenes I've ever read in a comic book. It really raises a lot of questions about child exploitation, and how far someone can be brainwashed. I think the purpose was to explain how a little girl could become so detached from violence, and it's a creative (if disturbing) way to do so. Anyone seeing that scene in the theatre for the first time will be shocked as well, I'm sure.

[Schmakt]

 

Nice one, man! I don't agree with you, but at least you're honest!!! (thumbs u

 

 

opinions... we've all got 'em, huh?

Always nice if everyone can at least agree on some basic facts on which to form those opinions and reasonable disagreements tho

 

 

I think what we are discussing in this thread is an entirely different dynamic in society.

 

We're talking about openly exposing children to something that they are not yet equipped to deal with and finding entertainment in it.

 

As a 39 year old adult, if you want to talk to me about porn, what you did in Vegas (and believe me what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, baby!!), swear words and extreme violence I have no problem with that. If you want to find entertainment in that stuff, well, that is your call, but you are better equipped to dealing with it, and it's consequences than a young child is.

 

I have 4 kids, now aged 8-14, and let me tell you that there are some things kids are not meant to be burdened with at a young, tender, formative age. There is a reason some things are not for children. They can't handle it.

 

They will have plenty of time to deal with that stuff later when they are not forming morals, sexual boundaries and learning about social interaction.

 

I believe in giving my kids real life tools that will make them better and stronger members of society. That is why guys like Mike and me might be disappointed with what kids find entertaining these days.

 

The meaning of this whole rant?

 

Kids and adults are worlds apart.

 

 

It would be kind of weird if someone who was a parent didn't have a more protective stance as someone who isn't. Having only been on the side of the protectee and not the protector certainly colors my opinion, cuz I just wish I was "protected" much much less.

 

 

I guess that's neither here nor there, but what your post actually made me think about (in conjunction with earlier posts regarding the slow and inevitable slide of society toward liberalism)) is what it really means for a kid to be "ready" for something or have the ability to "handle" something. And how much our definition of "child" is really just a product of our society...

 

It seems like what constitutes "childhood" (I swear I'm going to stop using quotation marks soon) has been pushed back further and further as society has developed (and lifespans have extended). 14 (or 12... maybe younger?) used to be (and in some places still is) a perfectly acceptable age for marriage (and age of consent)... Children much younger than that were expected to pass on oral traditions of (sometimes) gruesome violence in order to preserve tribal unity and identity. Rights of passage in most eras of human society came much much earlier than 18. I would be expected to hunt, kill, and clean my dinner by the time I was 14... I would be expected to know how to kill in defense (or offense) of my village/tribe/town/whatever much earlier than we allow our children to join the army (to say nothing of *shudder* drink alcohol or watch an R-rated movie). Was there a minimum age for spectators in the Roman Coliseum?

 

It just seems to me that so much of this protection we attempt to afford our children is a need fabricated by society as we moved out of the forest and into the city. A need to control, a need to preserve order, a need to draw boundaries on what a human can and cannot do. The slow spiral away from these ideals seems to be more of a natural backlash as an attempt to fill a collective void left in all of us by the lack of these deep and early connections to nature, to our tribes, and to our families.

 

 

Given, there is a huge difference between necessity and entertainment, and I'm not necessarily trying to say that glorifying violence for entertainment is a healthy activity... but I would also not say that protecting kids from it is healthy either.

 

I've never hunted and killed anything... the thought of it grosses me out... but I think I'd be stronger (if not "better") if I had encountered that when I was younger. I've certainly never fought or killed (or been in a position to do so) another human, and the thought of having to ever to do that sickens me... but I think I'd be stronger if I had known the experience. (hopefully not of killing, but at least fighting for something... being prepared for it... I kind of think Israel's got the right idea)

 

I guess it just seems like a very very natural thing to want to indulge in these types of things given how far we've removed ourselves from our natural state of being. Attempting to gloss over the urges and desires just might be doing more harm than good and could very well be what is perpetuating (to some extent) the acceptance of these kinds of things as entertainment by society.

 

(who raised the question earlier about British sensibilities vs. American sensibilities? Also a very good point...)

 

 

And holy , weren't we talking about a movie?

[VintageComics]

I think your post answers itself.

 

Hunting, protection, procreation, family values, self defense etc. All of those things are productive or positive things even if some of them can make your stomach turn.

 

Those are different than vigilante justice, gratuitous violence, obscene sexuality or abuse of children.

 

Worlds apart.

 

One group of actions has a positive impact on society, the other is simply there for an adrenaline rush at the expense of others.

 

edited to say that yes you can over protect your kids and make them socially inept.

 

(thumbs u