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Dishonest Seller

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I do owe Adam an apology. He did not buy the Cap 1 from Worldwide. Michael Carbonaro did. Adam bought it from Michael.

My apologies :foryou:

 

Apology accepted! I could never stay mad at you! :cloud9:

 

Well, maybe a little mad, but I'll get over it!

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My posts were intended to add some levity to the discussion. Things started getting a little too tense, and I like both of the guys in the exchange.

 

This whole thing got me thinking - I often find myself surprised to find a book arrive in the mail that I forgot. This is sometimes due to items taking forever to arrive (no need to mention any names :eyeroll: ).

 

Anyhow, it absolutely amazes me how folks on these boards are able to recall what others purchased, from whom, where, when, etc.

 

Amazing!

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My problem is that several of the statements you've made are not correct.

Which ones?

 

For starters:

 

1) Adam bought this book from World Wide Comics

 

2) Adam has offered this book around

 

Adam did not buy this book from World Wide Comics. And Adam has responded to inquiries about the book but has not offered this book around.

Rick told me that was the book that came from Steve and Matt's booth at San Diego.

Matt told me that was the book that came from Steve and Matt's booth at San Diego.

If they both told me something wrong I apologize.

 

I asked about that book at your booth in San Diego and was quoted a price.

Rick told me you both had a legitimate counteroffer from another individual which Rick wanted to accept and you turned it down. Billy inquired and received a quote weeks after that show. You responded to the WTB inquiry here. All of that in the last three months.

Again, if that isn't offering the book around I apologize.

 

 

I thought that book was from Mike Carbo. I remember it because there were scores of people who came by to look at the book, and they all seemed very intelligent but people kept saying the little squiggly "word" things on the label didn't provide enough information for them to know anything about the book. Several asked to have the information translated into colors, while one guy insisted on clicks and cricket chirps, which he insisted was much more honest and accurate

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I get a whiff that a shill has a problem with Adam.

 

Get your arse over here shill, I've been drinking. It all adds up to good times :whee:

 

Royig's problems are not with Adam but somewhere deep within his cerebral cortex.

 

I got PMs from him that made no sense whatsoever and seemed designed solely to pick random fights.

 

 

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You responded to the WTB inquiry here. All of that in the last three months.

Again, if that isn't offering the book around I apologize.

 

I actually just re-read this. Not to keep this going, but where is this gigantic disconnect coming from here?

 

This guy is a known shill. He has been banned from the CGC message boards on at least 7 different occasions. He has started multiple posts under multiple different accounts making comments he knows to be false in an attempt to slander my name. He has won tens of thousands of dollars of items of mine on eBay under at least 5 different names (the latest of which is Filterisgay) and has ruined what would've been otherwise legitimate 5 figure sales in no reserve auctions more than once. He's sent physical threats, pornographic PMs, harrassed me on Myspace, insulted my girlfriend the list goes on and on. All because he didn't like something I said/did years ago when I tried to get involved because I didnt like the fact that he stole money from another board member.

 

What part of I was not trying to sell him this book is not being understood? And why is it not being understood?

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eek! what is this?

 

 

Your mother? (shrug)

 

Adam don't even bother wasting your time and effort with this scumbag.

 

He will be banned again by Monday morning. (thumbs u

 

Just realize how nice it is to have life rather than Harold who is a complete internet loser.

 

 

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I get a whiff that a shill has a problem with Adam.

 

Get your arse over here shill, I've been drinking. It all adds up to good times :whee:

 

Royig's problems are not with Adam but somewhere deep within his cerebral cortex.

 

I got PMs from him that made no sense whatsoever and seemed designed solely to pick random fights.

 

 

It's Harold, Alley Bat, etc....

 

I just couldn't help compare this waste of space to the last one that ripped Adam to the tune of $1,000...

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This guy is a known shill. He has been banned from the CGC message boards on at least 7 different occasions. He has started multiple posts under multiple different accounts making comments he knows to be false in an attempt to slander my name. He has won tens of thousands of dollars of items of mine on eBay under at least 5 different names (the latest of which is Filterisgay) and has ruined what would've been otherwise legitimate 5 figure sales in no reserve auctions more than once. He's sent physical threats, pornographic PMs, harrassed me on Myspace, insulted my girlfriend the list goes on and on. All because he didn't like something I said/did years ago when I tried to get involved because I didnt like the fact that he stole money from another board member.

 

What part of I was not trying to sell him this book is not being understood? And why is it not being understood?

This is terrible, Adam. It would make my day to see him physically threaten me at the NYCC. :wishluck:
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It can't be one way or the other. Is there any difference between telling someone that a book isn't for sale but you can make an offer and putting a book up for sale with no sale price and an undisclosed reserve? If the undisclosed reserve is prohibitively high then that book is not for sale? So just because Adam has offered this book around and has told folks that he wants $40,000 for it is not for sale? And here he solicits a guy for an offer but the book isn't for sale?

 

I guess taking your logic to the it's ultimate ambition, everything is for sale. Everything has some price, whether that price is a favor, barter or blackmail. Price doesn't necessarily need to be in relationship to money.

 

If a book is in someone's collection, and not a part of inventory, but as a favor you sell it to someone who wants it more, that book was actually not for sale and then it became "for sale" the moment it was offered. For instance, Billy Parker's MMC #9 was not for sale but it became for sale when Primetime wanted it.

 

Also, if a book was bought for investment and for resale at a later date (perhaps around the time of a movie release), that book too is not for sale until the later date approaches but if someone wants to offer the "later date price" I'm sure that book too will come up "for sale" with the right offer. For instance, Cap #1 in 6.5 is not really for sale, as the book was likely bought because it was a long term investment but if someone wants to pay a fair (but strong price) then they might be able to purchase the book.

 

I think that both cases might even apply to this particular book.

 

I think you're being a stickler on the term "for sale" and it really isn't my fault or Adam's fault (nor do I see it as an oxymoron). It's the fault of the English language for not being able to convey intentions or time with the words "For Sale".

 

Maybe a better way of phrasing it would have been to say "I wasn't planning on selling this book right now but I'm happy to listen if you want to make an offer and maybe I'll change my mind".

 

(shrug)

 

And yes it was condescending. It was meant that way.

 

I was just wondering why you had the sharp edge as I thought it was a pretty edgy post. Maybe I said or did something to tick you off, unknowingly? But hey, if that's what you intended then whatever floats your boat.

 

(shrug)

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This guy is a known shill. He has been banned from the CGC message boards on at least 7 different occasions. He has started multiple posts under multiple different accounts making comments he knows to be false in an attempt to slander my name. He has won tens of thousands of dollars of items of mine on eBay under at least 5 different names (the latest of which is Filterisgay) and has ruined what would've been otherwise legitimate 5 figure sales in no reserve auctions more than once. He's sent physical threats, pornographic PMs, harrassed me on Myspace, insulted my girlfriend the list goes on and on. All because he didn't like something I said/did years ago when I tried to get involved because I didnt like the fact that he stole money from another board member.

 

What part of I was not trying to sell him this book is not being understood? And why is it not being understood?

This is terrible, Adam. It would make my day to see him physically threaten me at the NYCC. :wishluck:

 

He often makes it to the bigger shows.

 

He has been stalking Adam for nearly 2 years from what I know. He's not listening to reason as Adam is a nice guy and has a good heart. Instead he is simply doing it because he gets enjoyment out of trying to give someone a hard time. In this case the authorities definitely should be notified.

 

 

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This guy is a known shill. He has been banned from the CGC message boards on at least 7 different occasions. He has started multiple posts under multiple different accounts making comments he knows to be false in an attempt to slander my name. He has won tens of thousands of dollars of items of mine on eBay under at least 5 different names (the latest of which is Filterisgay) and has ruined what would've been otherwise legitimate 5 figure sales in no reserve auctions more than once. He's sent physical threats, pornographic PMs, harrassed me on Myspace, insulted my girlfriend the list goes on and on. All because he didn't like something I said/did years ago when I tried to get involved because I didnt like the fact that he stole money from another board member.

 

What part of I was not trying to sell him this book is not being understood? And why is it not being understood?

This is terrible, Adam. It would make my day to see him physically threaten me at the NYCC. :wishluck:

 

He often makes it to the bigger shows.

 

He has been stalking Adam for nearly 2 years from what I know. He's not listening to reason as Adam is a nice guy and has a good heart. Instead he is simply doing it because he gets enjoyment out of trying to give someone a hard time. In this case the authorities definitely should be notified.

 

or someone should just knock him out (shrug)

 

Seriously, why not phone the cops. Give him some grief back. Get a restraining order. That way he won't be able to attend shows your at. lol etc etc

 

or just beat the tar outta him if you know who he is (shrug)

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I do owe Adam an apology. He did not buy the Cap 1 from Worldwide. Michael Carbonaro did. Adam bought it from Michael.

My apologies :foryou:

 

I wonder why price paid and where the book came from is relevant at all? Most people like to keep discreet about that sort of thing. I know I do.

 

(shrug)

 

 

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