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[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator,

What's the FMV on an Action Comics #10?

 

fair............Good.................VG

 

Eye appeal aside ( huge factor in pricing lower grade)

Fr-2k

Gd-4-5k

Gd/vg-7500

vg-8-10k

 

For purple label right? A bit cheap for blue label. Or your buying price.

blue label "if" any were to show up...a fr ish copy (closer to poor than fair from an eye appeal standpoint) very recently sold for $1300 or so...and yes, it has been 2 years ago, but action 10 was still action 10 then, a cgc 5.5 went for 17,500, so maybe today it is 20K...this is not action 13 we are talking about, but action 10 (thumbs u

 

Understand. (thumbs u Those are reasonable prices to pay. From those A10 prices, A13 is like 2.5 to 3.0 times the value of A10.

I believe 13 is 2x rarer...(remember, all are "assumptions")

a fr at 4K is reasonable

a gd at 10K is "reasonable"

a 3.0 at 15K is reasonable (a 3.0 sold for less at SDCC last year)

a 4.0 at 20K is "reasonable"...

so, I would say 2x

[showcase22gr1959]

Dear Gator,

What's the FMV on an Action Comics #10?

 

fair............Good.................VG

 

Eye appeal aside ( huge factor in pricing lower grade)

Fr-2k

Gd-4-5k

Gd/vg-7500

vg-8-10k

 

For purple label right? A bit cheap for blue label. Or your buying price.

blue label "if" any were to show up...a fr ish copy (closer to poor than fair from an eye appeal standpoint) very recently sold for $1300 or so...and yes, it has been 2 years ago, but action 10 was still action 10 then, a cgc 5.5 went for 17,500, so maybe today it is 20K...this is not action 13 we are talking about, but action 10 (thumbs u

 

Understand. (thumbs u Those are reasonable prices to pay. From those A10 prices, A13 is like 2.5 to 3.0 times the value of A10.

I believe 13 is 2x rarer...(remember, all are "assumptions")

a fr at 4K is reasonable

a gd at 10K is "reasonable"

a 3.0 at 15K is reasonable (a 3.0 sold for less at SDCC last year)

a 4.0 at 20K is "reasonable"...

so, I would say 2x

 

(thumbs u That is a more realistic FMV and given volatile prices in term of the supply and demand in the short term.

Edited February 23, 2011 by showcase22gr1959

[VintageComics]

A steal ... I dont know

 

It's a steal.

 

 

Here's why...this is what the individual wraps sold for:

 

Action 1 5th wrap $6353

Action 1 6th wrap $3010

Action 1 13th wrap $1300

Action 1 14th wrap $890

Action 1 15th wrap $850

 

Also a 1st wrap sold for $3100 several years ago...pretty sure it would sell for much more.

 

That's $15,000 for less than 1/2 the interior with 10 (or 11 wraps) still to be accounted for. Then you have the cover, which would easily be a 5 figure piece.

 

There are several incomplete copies of Action #1 out there and if someone with an interior were to purchase this copy you basically have a $90,000+ plus book by adding one centerfold.

 

Thats convincing figures you are pulling, - that is *if* its legit to calculate complete-copy-value by adding FMV for each wrap?

 

But thats the problem isnt it? That for the big ticket books value is not easy to determine? So nobody can be blamed for trying to calculate what is cheap or steep. There was an Ext 4.5 Tec27 that sold out of metro a year ago in the mid 30K range. The UK Ext. 4.5 sold recenly for close to 50K.

 

An Action #1 I guess is even more incalculable when it comes to determine FMV at a given moment in time ...

 

Well, considering FMV entry level price for a complete Action #1 is going to run you approx $100K (remember, even a ratty copy that is restored to EP is a $100K book) and the wraps have never sold for more than $6K, I just can't call it anything less than a bargain.

 

Remember, all you need is one wrap to transform this book into a complete copy.

[showcase22gr1959]

A steal ... I dont know

 

It's a steal.

 

 

Here's why...this is what the individual wraps sold for:

 

Action 1 5th wrap $6353

Action 1 6th wrap $3010

Action 1 13th wrap $1300

Action 1 14th wrap $890

Action 1 15th wrap $850

 

Also a 1st wrap sold for $3100 several years ago...pretty sure it would sell for much more.

 

That's $15,000 for less than 1/2 the interior with 10 (or 11 wraps) still to be accounted for. Then you have the cover, which would easily be a 5 figure piece.

 

There are several incomplete copies of Action #1 out there and if someone with an interior were to purchase this copy you basically have a $90,000+ plus book by adding one centerfold.

 

Thats convincing figures you are pulling, - that is *if* its legit to calculate complete-copy-value by adding FMV for each wrap?

 

But thats the problem isnt it? That for the big ticket books value is not easy to determine? So nobody can be blamed for trying to calculate what is cheap or steep. There was an Ext 4.5 Tec27 that sold out of metro a year ago in the mid 30K range. The UK Ext. 4.5 sold recenly for close to 50K.

 

An Action #1 I guess is even more incalculable when it comes to determine FMV at a given moment in time ...

 

Well, considering FMV entry level price for a complete Action #1 is going to run you approx $100K (remember, even a ratty copy that is restored to EP is a $100K book) and the wraps have never sold for more than $6K, I just can't call it anything less than a bargain.

 

Remember, all you need is one wrap to transform this book into a complete copy.

 

Action 1 bargain and Action 13 bargain= buying opportunity.

[Mr. 10%]

 

A steal ... I dont know

 

It's a steal.

 

 

Here's why...this is what the individual wraps sold for:

 

Action 1 5th wrap $6353

Action 1 6th wrap $3010

Action 1 13th wrap $1300

Action 1 14th wrap $890

Action 1 15th wrap $850

 

Also a 1st wrap sold for $3100 several years ago...pretty sure it would sell for much more.

 

That's $15,000 for less than 1/2 the interior with 10 (or 11 wraps) still to be accounted for. Then you have the cover, which would easily be a 5 figure piece.

 

There are several incomplete copies of Action #1 out there and if someone with an interior were to purchase this copy you basically have a $90,000+ plus book by adding one centerfold.

 

Thats convincing figures you are pulling, - that is *if* its legit to calculate complete-copy-value by adding FMV for each wrap?

 

But thats the problem isnt it? That for the big ticket books value is not easy to determine? So nobody can be blamed for trying to calculate what is cheap or steep. There was an Ext 4.5 Tec27 that sold out of metro a year ago in the mid 30K range. The UK Ext. 4.5 sold recenly for close to 50K.

 

An Action #1 I guess is even more incalculable when it comes to determine FMV at a given moment in time ...

 

Well, considering FMV entry level price for a complete Action #1 is going to run you approx $100K (remember, even a ratty copy that is restored to EP is a $100K book) and the wraps have never sold for more than $6K, I just can't call it anything less than a bargain.

 

Remember, all you need is one wrap to transform this book into a complete copy.

 

Yes - and should a dilligent seller of this specific wrap be (or come) around, then it will be widely known that there most likely will be a big whale circling the waters to snag exactly such a wrap. And that off course will send the pricetag on this specific wrap into orbit

Edited February 23, 2011 by Angelius Silesius

[VintageComics]

Yes - and should a dilligent seller of this specific wrap be (or come) around, then it will be widely known that there most likely will be a big whale circling the waters to snag exactly such a wrap. And that off course will send the pricetag on this specific wrap into orbit

 

I'm betting that the new owner of that Action #1 already has a spare centerfold or an interior. I know of at least one and maybe two board members who might/should have one and would likely chase after that copy.

[ciorac]

A steal ... I dont know

 

It's a steal.

 

 

Here's why...this is what the individual wraps sold for:

 

Action 1 5th wrap $6353

Action 1 6th wrap $3010

Action 1 13th wrap $1300

Action 1 14th wrap $890

Action 1 15th wrap $850

 

Also a 1st wrap sold for $3100 several years ago...pretty sure it would sell for much more.

 

That's $15,000 for less than 1/2 the interior with 10 (or 11 wraps) still to be accounted for. Then you have the cover, which would easily be a 5 figure piece.

 

There are several incomplete copies of Action #1 out there and if someone with an interior were to purchase this copy you basically have a $90,000+ plus book by adding one centerfold.

 

Thats convincing figures you are pulling, - that is *if* its legit to calculate complete-copy-value by adding FMV for each wrap?

 

But thats the problem isnt it? That for the big ticket books value is not easy to determine? So nobody can be blamed for trying to calculate what is cheap or steep. There was an Ext 4.5 Tec27 that sold out of metro a year ago in the mid 30K range. The UK Ext. 4.5 sold recenly for close to 50K.

 

An Action #1 I guess is even more incalculable when it comes to determine FMV at a given moment in time ...

 

Well, considering FMV entry level price for a complete Action #1 is going to run you approx $100K (remember, even a ratty copy that is restored to EP is a $100K book) and the wraps have never sold for more than $6K, I just can't call it anything less than a bargain.

 

Remember, all you need is one wrap to transform this book into a complete copy.

 

Yes - and should a dilligent seller of this specific wrap be (or come) around, then it will be widely known that there most likely will be a big whale circling the waters to snag exactly such a wrap. And that off course will send the pricetag on this specific wrap into orbit

 

Impressive analysis.

 

But consider this, maybe the buyer is just happy to have an Action 1 and doesn't give a hoot that he doesn't have a centerfold and really isn't too concerned what he/she will make if they were to ever find one and then sell the book. Some folks just like to collect comics.

[Mr. 10%]

A steal ... I dont know

 

It's a steal.

 

 

Here's why...this is what the individual wraps sold for:

 

Action 1 5th wrap $6353

Action 1 6th wrap $3010

Action 1 13th wrap $1300

Action 1 14th wrap $890

Action 1 15th wrap $850

 

Also a 1st wrap sold for $3100 several years ago...pretty sure it would sell for much more.

 

That's $15,000 for less than 1/2 the interior with 10 (or 11 wraps) still to be accounted for. Then you have the cover, which would easily be a 5 figure piece.

 

There are several incomplete copies of Action #1 out there and if someone with an interior were to purchase this copy you basically have a $90,000+ plus book by adding one centerfold.

 

Thats convincing figures you are pulling, - that is *if* its legit to calculate complete-copy-value by adding FMV for each wrap?

 

But thats the problem isnt it? That for the big ticket books value is not easy to determine? So nobody can be blamed for trying to calculate what is cheap or steep. There was an Ext 4.5 Tec27 that sold out of metro a year ago in the mid 30K range. The UK Ext. 4.5 sold recenly for close to 50K.

 

An Action #1 I guess is even more incalculable when it comes to determine FMV at a given moment in time ...

 

Well, considering FMV entry level price for a complete Action #1 is going to run you approx $100K (remember, even a ratty copy that is restored to EP is a $100K book) and the wraps have never sold for more than $6K, I just can't call it anything less than a bargain.

 

Remember, all you need is one wrap to transform this book into a complete copy.

 

Yes - and should a dilligent seller of this specific wrap be (or come) around, then it will be widely known that there most likely will be a big whale circling the waters to snag exactly such a wrap. And that off course will send the pricetag on this specific wrap into orbit

 

Impressive analysis.

 

But consider this, maybe the buyer is just happy to have an Action 1 and doesn't give a hoot that he doesn't have a centerfold and really isn't too concerned what he/she will make if they were to ever find one and then sell the book. Some folks just like to collect comics.

 

Hell - ciorac is right. This is ed. New subject

[Ze-man]

Flash 105!

A similar A1 mod 6.5 went for 150K just moons ago.

This is an Ext .5 book. If this goes north of 40K I will mess my pants.

But then again IF the hulk #181 cgc 9.9 sale is legit, - then anyhting can happen. Reality sometimes seem to surpass reality ... sometimes at least

 

Someone get this man's washer ready and a fresh pair of pants ASAP!

 

 

 

Well I wouldnt have shelled out 43K. But somebody else apparently did. (thumbs u

 

I would have. That book was one centerfold away from being a complete Action #1.

 

Do you think if a centerfold comes to market that it's going to cost more than $100K?

 

I don't think so.

 

Looks like somebody got a steal IMO.

 

Its pretty hypothetical isnt it? One centerfold away and then it might be perhaps this - perhaps that. Again IF a centerfold turned up (and didnt cost 100K ). And the issues inside remain undescribed for all who dont know the book. Its a big world of 'If's'.

 

A steal ... I dont know

 

How are the interior issues undescribed to most?

 

The label clearly states the centerfold is a color copy.

 

The 7th-15th wraps were married.

 

And there are pieces out of the 19th-26th wraps that affect the story.

 

ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS

 

And if I am correct you can call and get more detailed descriptions.

 

Not exactly "undescribed issues" imho.

 

 

 

I think Roy was probably right, somebody got this book for a steal if they have inroads to a complete interior. Which I understand is easier said then done, but not unthinkable.

[Ze-man]

 

Hell - ciorac is right. This is ed. New subject

 

Sorry, I had not read this yet.

 

 

Somebody ask Rick a question to get back On Topic.

 

 

 

[Mr. 10%]

Flash 105!

A similar A1 mod 6.5 went for 150K just moons ago.

This is an Ext .5 book. If this goes north of 40K I will mess my pants.

But then again IF the hulk #181 cgc 9.9 sale is legit, - then anyhting can happen. Reality sometimes seem to surpass reality ... sometimes at least

 

Someone get this man's washer ready and a fresh pair of pants ASAP!

 

 

 

Well I wouldnt have shelled out 43K. But somebody else apparently did. (thumbs u

 

I would have. That book was one centerfold away from being a complete Action #1.

 

Do you think if a centerfold comes to market that it's going to cost more than $100K?

 

I don't think so.

 

Looks like somebody got a steal IMO.

 

Its pretty hypothetical isnt it? One centerfold away and then it might be perhaps this - perhaps that. Again IF a centerfold turned up (and didnt cost 100K ). And the issues inside remain undescribed for all who dont know the book. Its a big world of 'If's'.

 

A steal ... I dont know

 

How are the interior issues undescribed to most?

 

The label clearly states the centerfold is a color copy.

 

The 7th-15th wraps were married.

 

And there are pieces out of the 19th-26th wraps that affect the story.

 

ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS

 

And if I am correct you can call and get more detailed descriptions.

 

Not exactly "undescribed issues" imho.

 

 

 

I think Roy was probably right, somebody got this book for a steal if they have inroads to a complete interior. Which I understand is easier said then done, but not unthinkable.

 

*

 

Well 'the pieces out' designation on 8 pages inside leads one to think how *much* is actually missing. Large chunks? or a small corner?

Since this is an extensive book I thought there was no further notes to call for? When I called cgc recently on an Ext GA book at least thats what I was told ...

 

 

[comicdonna]

Dear Gator:

 

Have you ever shoveled snow?

[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator:

 

Have you ever shoveled snow?

yes...in OH at my dad's house...not the most fun I have ever had

[Flash105]

Dear Gator,

 

Have you ever had a gator in your yard?

[BustedFlush]

Dear GAtor,

I've just thought up the perfect name for a boardie.

 

GA Jones

 

Whadyathink?

[greggy]

Dear Gator

 

Where's my Exhibitor pass for the Heroe's con?

[G.A.tor]

Dear GAtor,

I've just thought up the perfect name for a boardie.

 

GA Jones

 

Whadyathink?

I like it

[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator

 

Where's my Exhibitor pass for the Heroe's con?

geesh, I haven't even got my booth secured yet

[greggy]

Dear Gator

 

Where's my Exhibitor pass for the Heroe's con?

geesh, I haven't even got my booth secured yet

I'm rotating the dorks that I'm scrounging passes from so your name came up this time.

[G.A.tor]

Dear Gator

 

Where's my Exhibitor pass for the Heroe's con?

geesh, I haven't even got my booth secured yet

I'm rotating the dorks that I'm scrounging passes from so your name came up this time.

I guess I should be honored