How Do We Achieve Pro-Active Disclosure In The Marketplace?

[VintageComics]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

 

Probably the same likelihood as if that person pro-actively disclosed it.

 

 

[DrWatson]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Because it is a complete waste of time and nobody besides some of those on the CGC boards care. I've been to plenty of shows and never heard one person ask if a book was pressed. Never.

 

Within the next 5 to 10 years all of the books that can benefit from pressing will have been pressed so if collecting CGC is your thing and you don't like pressing then you might as well find a new hobby.

You're as bananas as Rino. Possibly worse as you're coherent.

[Old Fashion PB and J]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Because it is a complete waste of time and nobody besides some of those on the CGC boards care. I've been to plenty of shows and never heard one person ask if a book was pressed. Never.

 

Within the next 5 to 10 years all of the books that can benefit from pressing will have been pressed so if collecting CGC is your thing and you don't like pressing then you might as well find a new hobby.

 

 

So I should hand out flyers for CFP at shows, explain pressing and how most if not ALL major dealers press books. THEN I can also pimp the CBCA, the need for disclosure of restoration, and how OSPG used to consider it resto before CGC? I think it is a great idea, you?

 

But please, tell me how you are right and I am wrong.

 

P.S. You have never been to a show I was at.

[Old Fashion PB and J]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Pat,

Seriously, do you have any idea how many books I go through? Obviously not or you wouldn't suggest it is just as easy as keeping another set of notes. And the simple fact is, I don't want to spend any more time "working" than I do now.

I guarantee that it is easier for you to ask me, than it is for me to dig back through invoices to find out what nobody buy a few guys on this board care about.

And I deal in so few restored books of any kind, I can pretty much name them right off the top of my head, and I always put an R in the price tag to note restoration.

Dale

I ask for obvious reasons. The number one is you are very open about the dealer aspect. So your input is valuable Dale.

[bdera303-migration]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Because it is a complete waste of time and nobody besides some of those on the CGC boards care. I've been to plenty of shows and never heard one person ask if a book was pressed. Never.

 

That's because most are not aware of the process.

 

Within the next 5 to 10 years all of the books that can benefit from pressing will have been pressed so if collecting CGC is your thing and you don't like pressing then you might as well find a new hobby.

 

Thanks for the advice

 

 

whilst you are my favourite boardmember

[Comicopolis]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

[Old Fashion PB and J]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Because it is a complete waste of time and nobody besides some of those on the CGC boards care. I've been to plenty of shows and never heard one person ask if a book was pressed. Never.

 

Within the next 5 to 10 years all of the books that can benefit from pressing will have been pressed so if collecting CGC is your thing and you don't like pressing then you might as well find a new hobby.

You're as bananas as Rino. Possibly worse as you're coherent.

Some wild assumptions there. I think a good fart could break this one loose. (thumbs u

[Mr.Diggler]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Because it is a complete waste of time and nobody besides some of those on the CGC boards care. I've been to plenty of shows and never heard one person ask if a book was pressed. Never.

 

Within the next 5 to 10 years all of the books that can benefit from pressing will have been pressed so if collecting CGC is your thing and you don't like pressing then you might as well find a new hobby.

You're as bananas as Rino. Possibly worse as you're coherent.

Some wild assumptions there. I think a good fart could break this one loose. (thumbs u

You just missed one here. I just lit my wife up!

[TheShadowKnows]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

If its Dale,Richard or dealers of their quality 100%

[DrWatson]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

Actually it is. Proactive disclosure works both ways. I want to know which books haven't been pressed so I can crack, press and resub them.

[DrWatson]

I will press everything here on out. Because then my collection will be worth more

 

In all seriousness I have always admired those who are pro-active in disclosure. And when I became (somewhat) more knowledgeable, it is the path I took as well. Just seems right.

 

And as much as I like Dale Roberts I ask this. If it is too hard to disclose upfront since you will have to find out what books were or were not pressed, etc.. What difference would it make later? If you dont know, you dont know. But why not just log your books as pressed or not? It isnt difficult. Im sure you know which are restored right? What is the difficult aspect of keeping another set of notes?

 

 

Because it is a complete waste of time and nobody besides some of those on the CGC boards care. I've been to plenty of shows and never heard one person ask if a book was pressed. Never.

 

Within the next 5 to 10 years all of the books that can benefit from pressing will have been pressed so if collecting CGC is your thing and you don't like pressing then you might as well find a new hobby.

You're as bananas as Rino. Possibly worse as you're coherent.

Some wild assumptions there. I think a good fart could break this one loose. (thumbs u

You just missed one here. I just lit my wife up!

You are incorrigible. Doesn't she smoke? You could have blown you both sky high.

[Old Fashion PB and J]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

Actually it is. Proactive disclosure works both ways. I want to know which books haven't been pressed so I can crack, press and resub them.

I love it when you talk dirty

[Comicopolis]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

Actually it is. Proactive disclosure works both ways. I want to know which books haven't been pressed so I can crack, press and resub them.

 

What make you think I would sell anything to you?

[Mr.Diggler]

 

You are incorrigible. Doesn't she smoke? You could have blown you both sky high.

She does. I should be more careful. I'm putting both of our lives at risk.

[DrWatson]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

Actually it is. Proactive disclosure works both ways. I want to know which books haven't been pressed so I can crack, press and resub them.

 

What make you think I would sell anything to you?

You're a greedy British anti-presser.

[comicdonna]

I will be looking into getting a few samples tested for damage soon. Both old and new, pressed books. I would ideally like to see microscopic pictures of the paper fibers in comparison to books that have not been pressed.

 

Will that realistically show anything about the pressing? Might it not show effects of how the book was stored or preserved, maybe even prior to your owning it.

 

If you could look at books which you purchased at the same time, have been stored in the exact same conditions and one pressed and one not pressed, you might come up with something useful.

I have spoken with Kenny about getting half of a book pressed, leaving the other half not pressed.

[8milemax]

I will be looking into getting a few samples tested for damage soon. Both old and new, pressed books. I would ideally like to see microscopic pictures of the paper fibers in comparison to books that have not been pressed.

 

Will that realistically show anything about the pressing? Might it not show effects of how the book was stored or preserved, maybe even prior to your owning it.

 

If you could look at books which you purchased at the same time, have been stored in the exact same conditions and one pressed and one not pressed, you might come up with something useful.

I have spoken with Kenny about getting half of a book pressed, leaving the other half not pressed.

 

Hey thats something new, lets give that a try

[fantastic_four]

I will be looking into getting a few samples tested for damage soon. Both old and new, pressed books. I would ideally like to see microscopic pictures of the paper fibers in comparison to books that have not been pressed.

 

Will that realistically show anything about the pressing? Might it not show effects of how the book was stored or preserved, maybe even prior to your owning it.

 

If you could look at books which you purchased at the same time, have been stored in the exact same conditions and one pressed and one not pressed, you might come up with something useful.

I have spoken with Kenny about getting half of a book pressed, leaving the other half not pressed.

 

You can also get digital cameras that attach to microscopes and take before and after pictures of the fibers. That not only works for determining the exact changes, it works for communicating those changes clearly to other people via the images. If I could think of more applications to use one of these below for more than just pressing, I might geek out enough to buy one.

 

[gaz973]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

Actually it is. Proactive disclosure works both ways. I want to know which books haven't been pressed so I can crack, press and resub them.

 

We have this disclaimer on our website.

"If we know that any of our comics are restored or manipulated in any way (such as trimmed, pressed, colour touched sealed tears, etc) then we will list it in the notes for that individual comic. We do not restore or manipulate comics ourselves and will always disclose any such work that we are aware of."

 

In the 8 months since we started, we've sold two pressed books that were both proactively disclosed.

[Comicopolis]

You ask.

 

Not a problem - and what's the likelihood that I'll get an honest answer when the seller knows I don't buy pressed books?

Depends on the seller. The one that's going to lie, is going to lie regardless. Not to be a basturd, but do you label the books on your website as "Not Pressed" ? I honestly haven't looked.

 

We don't. We don't say restored either unless we know.

 

If we knew any books were pressed we would say so in the description.

 

This is about sellers who know books have been pressed stating that fact upfront.

 

It's not about anything else.

Actually it is. Proactive disclosure works both ways. I want to know which books haven't been pressed so I can crack, press and resub them.

 

We have this disclaimer on our website.

"If we know that any of our comics are restored or manipulated in any way (such as trimmed, pressed, colour touched sealed tears, etc) then we will list it in the notes for that individual comic. We do not restore or manipulate comics ourselves and will always disclose any such work that we are aware of."

 

In the 8 months since we started, we've sold two pressed books that were both proactively disclosed.

 

(thumbs u