The Official 2011 Overstreet discussion thread

[chrisco37]

The IF #14 has to be the 35-cent variant right?

[Ant-Man]

Yes.

[Ant-Man]

Not a whole lot of movement (position) in the top books for each age. Looks like Batman #3 has cracked the charts. And AF 15, while the #1 Silver book, would also make the top 10 in Gold. Man, I remember when that wasn't close to being the case.

 

Yes, if you look at this chart over the years, the 2nd and 3rd tier publishers are slowly starting to fall to the wayside while the heavy hitters from DC and Timely keeps churning their way up the chart.

 

Even within the two big hitters themselves, the 2nd tier titles such as All-Winners, USA Comics, and the early pre-hero DC's are continually dropping down the charts.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we are left with just the main super-hero runs and only a sprinkling of the odd non-superhero keys on the Top 100 list within several years from now.

 

Agreed. It's already happened in the SA. Used to see books like "Adventures Of The Big Boy" and "If The Devil Would Talk". The challenge to maintain relevance in a changing market.

[Ant-Man]

On a current note, I see that more of the FCBD offerings are being listed with their parent titles in the main section.

 

Am I the only person who would like to see all of the "Free Comic Book Day" books listed in the promotional section, a la March Of Comics? I don't know if more than a handful actually realize prices worth listing, but they can't be doing any worse than most of the moderns in the Guide. I think the holiday has been around long enough to get some attention.

[Jeffro.]

 

Am I the only person who would like to see all of the "Free Comic Book Day" books listed in the promotional section, a la March Of Comics? I don't know if more than a handful actually realize prices worth listing, but they can't be doing any worse than most of the moderns in the Guide. I think the holiday has been around long enough to get some attention.

 

They should be listed in the promo section of the guide.

[Wally's Comics]

What were some of the surprises that people found?

 

I was stunned to see ASM 2 in the top SA 20 but then again

Vulture or not - I'm sure for a good bit of folks that can't afford a decent AF15

or ASM 1 then the next in line is this book.

 

 

 

 

Why were you stunned to see ASM 2 in the top 20 SA books? It was there in previous years, fell off the list last year (or perhaps the year before), and is now back on the list.

 

well just put it this way, I know people aren't excited about the Vulture

so I am sure it is because of spidey's third appearance.

 

 

[JediTrix]

The IF #14 has to be the 35-cent variant right?

 

I assume same for Star Wars #1

[Aman619]

Actually, with respect to charts and graphs, the ones below which AJD had posted in the Gold Forum are a lot more informative and representative since they are indexed against inflation, includes not just the top of guide price which is often misleading, covers a much broader spectrum of books beyond just the usual Top 5 keys, and is also measured against a leading financial indicator: (thumbs u

 

 

I'm home sick today, so I had the chance to update the data in my spreadsheets of comic prices. Since Mitch has been banging the drum for investing in Gold (comics) I thought this was relevant.

 

Notes:

 

(1) all prices were converted into today's dollars before the index was calculated. This includes the Dow values.

(2) comic prices are Overstreets with all of the limitations of that - and the jump at the end was Bob being dragged kicking and screaming into realism with the million dollar sales of Action 1 and Tec 27

(3) all of the other caveats already mentioned in this thread still apply

(4) my economist friend has changed his tune - he says now that this is a good time to be holding cash assets, bullion or fine collectables.

 

First up, the 9.2 prices

 

 

And now the 6.0

 

 

The 'dud' of the big 4 is Marvel #1 - but even in mid grade still gives the Dow a run for its money.

 

Of course, the trick to this sort of analysis is to work out where the graphs go from here. If I could do that I'd probably own the big 4.

 

Edit: For the comic investor with a diverse portfolio, here's the Overstreet top 100 GA books index as well:

 

 

If only we could retrospectively MANNUP!

 

 

I hope AJD continues to maintain these charts for us here on the boards!

 

These look eerily like the NASDAQ did from 1995 through 2001.

 

I don't mean to be negative but my paranoid side hears the sound of a bubble popping sometime in the future...

 

 

its not really correct to draw conclusion about the comic market from Overstreet price guide data because these are just numbers he "makes up" that are NOT directly derived from actual day to day sales data. I also believe that comparisons to hugely scaled markets like say Nasdaq to theincredibly tiny comics market that this chart illustrates is a very flimsy correlation.

 

Are we nearing a bubble pop? maybe. But not because Overstreet's prices charts into an alarmingly familiar looking graph. And not because it means millions of sheep are buying and trading stocks wildly based on widely published bullish financial reports that scream "get in now!". Our comic market (at this high end) just reflects the excited competition for the very few available existing copies of these few books.... by a small handful of well-heeled boys who love them.

 

If there's a bubble forming it might IMO come from a last gasp burst of buying by aging boomers who will exit the market sooner than later leaving no buyers. But again, for the few books in these charts I feel safe that there will be enough well off younger guys happy to buy them when the time comes.

[Ant-Man]

The IF #14 has to be the 35-cent variant right?

 

I assume same for Star Wars #1

 

Yep.

[*Bronze age fan*]

Debating on whether or not I want to get this edition. I really don't have a lot of books so this is just curious reading for me. I think the last one I got was back in '81 (or even earlier) when I was actually collecting for real. Any negatives about getting the downloadable version over the traditional trade paperback or hardcover?

 

 

I almost bought the download one yesterday. I have a question. They are charging 30 bucks for the downloaded one. Aint that full price? Your getting nothing but the info to your computer...no book costs, no nothing....SO why is it still 30 bucks? I came to my sences and ordered one from Amazon for 19 bucks...And I am getting the real book.

 

As to your question...You cant read the downloaded one on the can...Which is the main place I read mine. .

[chrisco37]

As to your question...You cant read the downloaded one on the can...Which is the main place I read mine. .

 

Note to self: Do not buy any old OSPG's from Bronze Age Fan.

 

This book has been flagged.

[MK Ultra]

Laptop?

 

Kindle?

 

 

[*Bronze age fan*]

I have nither of those. I still have a desktop..I am in the stoneage.

[*Bronze age fan*]

As to your question...You cant read the downloaded one on the can...Which is the main place I read mine. .

 

Note to self: Do not buy any old OSPG's from Bronze Age Fan.

 

This book has been flagged.

 

 

 

 

Talk about full disclosure. All these dumb pressing threads. Should have a "Did you read the comic on the bowl" disclosure thread. I have been known to also read comics there...Who else wants to stand up and be a man and admit it???

[Scrooge]

ahem ... I'd rather you sit down on the bowl, not stand up ... Thank you very much

[davedawgbg]

I almost bought the download one yesterday. I have a question. They are charging 30 bucks for the downloaded one. Aint that full price? Your getting nothing but the info to your computer...no book costs, no nothing....SO why is it still 30 bucks? I came to my sences and ordered one from Amazon for 19 bucks...And I am getting the real book.

 

As to your question...You cant read the downloaded one on the can...Which is the main place I read mine. .

 

I almost did as well . . . buying the online version, not the reading on the commode part. Decided against it when I read the fine print that it would only be licensed to the computer it downloaded to and would/could not be downloaded or viewed on any other device.

 

This means no impromptu checking of prices on the smart phone and no dice if I replace my computer in the next year, all for about 50% more the cost than even the HC version that still travels easily.

 

Not sure what he incentive is supposed to be with such restrictions.

 

[chrisco37]

As to your question...You cant read the downloaded one on the can...Which is the main place I read mine. .

 

Note to self: Do not buy any old OSPG's from Bronze Age Fan.

 

This book has been flagged.

 

 

 

 

Talk about full disclosure. All these dumb pressing threads. Should have a "Did you read the comic on the bowl" disclosure thread. I have been known to also read comics there...Who else wants to stand up and be a man and admit it???

 

Comics - No

 

OSPG - Guilty

 

 

[SharpComics.com]

ahem ... I'd rather you sit down on the bowl, not stand up ... Thank you very much

 

YEAH! No upper-deckers here pal!

[Mark 1]

I almost bought the download one yesterday. I have a question. They are charging 30 bucks for the downloaded one. Aint that full price? Your getting nothing but the info to your computer...no book costs, no nothing....SO why is it still 30 bucks? I came to my sences and ordered one from Amazon for 19 bucks...And I am getting the real book.

 

As to your question...You cant read the downloaded one on the can...Which is the main place I read mine. .

 

Exactly the reason why I didn't buy the digital version. It should be half the price or something close to that.

 

I also read the OSPG in the can...

[divad]

Just got mine yesterday and starting to look through it... Interesting story from DTA Collectibles!

 

An in-depth primer on how to spam and glut ebay with overpriced listings?