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Comic people on Frank Miller's rant

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TupennyConan

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I more than insist we get over HG Wells. We should condemn HG Wells.

 

You're more of a Chesterton man, right?

 

I am!

 

:banana:

 

The mention of G. K. Chesterton allows us to bring Neil Gaiman into the conversation.

 

 

 

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Over in the Gaiman Beowulf thread I asked what Gaiman's OWS opinion was. I needed to know so that I could decide if I still liked Sandman. hm

 

Your bringing Gaiman into this conversation allows us to bring Lord Dunsany into the conversation. I'd like to know what his take on OWS would have been. hm

 

I suspect I know exactly what HGW & GKC would have had to say about OWS. Those suspected opinions would have no influence upon my appreciation for their works of fiction, however. For example, I don't need to know a thing about the author to condemn The Time Machine as a filthy, filthy novel. Repugnant is too kind a word.

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Larryw7

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For example, I don't need to know a thing about the author to condemn The Time Machine as a filthy, filthy novel. Repugnant is too kind a word.

 

But the George Pal movie is great.

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Comicopolis

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Everyone raves about Watchmen, and so do I, but Moore's greatest work is From Hell. It's one of the finest pieces of literature I have ever read, period.

 

+1 Totally agree. Absolutely brilliant.

 

Outside of Maus, From Hell is the greatest piece of literary sequential graphic based story-telling ever.

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Comicopolis

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Everyone raves about Watchmen, and so do I, but Moore's greatest work is From Hell. It's one of the finest pieces of literature I have ever read, period.

 

+1 Totally agree. Absolutely brilliant.

 

I've read a lot of Alan Moore's stuff and I'm of age to have appreciated the impact some of the stories had when they first appeared some 25 years ago. However, there has been a grand total of two pieces of work from Alan that I thought were above and beyond what was being published during the day:

1. The Killing Joke - best self contained single issue Batman (or should I say, Joker) story ever. How many printings did the comic go through? And the TPB also went through several printing, too.

2. From Hell. The art matched the dark, dreary, and suspenseful story perfectly.

 

Everything else by Mr. Moore, from Swamp Thing to Watchmen was/is meh.

 

Frank Miller, on the other hand, has offered much more.

 

Granted, neither have made major contributions in over a decade.

 

Such as?

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TupennyConan

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Everyone raves about Watchmen, and so do I, but Moore's greatest work is From Hell. It's one of the finest pieces of literature I have ever read, period.

 

+1 Totally agree. Absolutely brilliant.

 

Outside of Maus, From Hell is the greatest piece of literary sequential graphic based story-telling ever.

 

Do you mean comic book?

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Everyone raves about Watchmen, and so do I, but Moore's greatest work is From Hell. It's one of the finest pieces of literature I have ever read, period.

 

+1 Totally agree. Absolutely brilliant.

 

Outside of Maus, From Hell is the greatest piece of literary sequential graphic based story-telling ever.

 

Do you mean comic book?

 

lol Of course. I was trying to make it sound much more important than it is.

 

Funny books are for kids, we all know that.

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TupennyConan

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Everyone raves about Watchmen, and so do I, but Moore's greatest work is From Hell. It's one of the finest pieces of literature I have ever read, period.

 

+1 Totally agree. Absolutely brilliant.

 

Outside of Maus, From Hell is the greatest piece of literary sequential graphic based story-telling ever.

 

Do you mean comic book?

 

lol Of course. I was trying to make it sound much more important than it is.

 

Funny books are for kids, we all know that.

 

The good ones are. That's why I still read them.

 

Okay, lots of praise for From Hell in this thread by Boardies I admire & respect. A friend recently recommended it to me in PM. Here was my trite, glib, & fairly ignorant reply in the colored text:

 

I love Alan Moore. I'm assuming you have read V for Vendetta, my favorite work by him. Also recommend Promethea for a crash course in chaos magic, or From Hell for a most interesting look at Jack the Ripper, the unfortunate ladies in his care, Freemasonry, and the architecture of the churches of the area. A brilliant use of endnotes as narrative fleshes out a great story on a subject I otherwise had no interest in.

 

I have read Moore's Watchmen & Swamp Thing. What else I can't recall off the top of my head. Maybe that says something about my view of him. I've studied the occult my entire life & don't feel compelled to read his comics to learn about anything related to the subject. I don't care for his satanism nor that he recently experimented with comic book pornography. I think he is a great talent but am a little bored by him. Isn't he a relic of the '80's?

 

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TupennyConan

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I saw the From Hell movie. It was kinda so-so, I suppose. I liked the Freemasonry angle because I am charmed by secret society occultism. I recall it was nicely atmospheric. I enjoy movies about London. I don't think I have much else to say about it other than I understand Moore doesn't watch his movies; which I find admirable.

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TupennyConan

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I don't think Moore is a Satanist. He may look crazy and have a slight fetish for Aleister Crowley but who doesn't (shrug)

 

I was playing fast & loose with the term. I wasn't using it in any sort of technical or theological sense. I wasn't employing a term of art. Sure, some experts on such subjects might label him a satanist but they might also do the same to all the cool kids; of which we are two.

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I don't think Moore is a Satanist. He may look crazy and have a slight fetish for Aleister Crowley but who doesn't (shrug)

 

I was playing fast & loose with the term. I wasn't using it in any sort of technical or theological sense. I wasn't employing a term of art. Sure, some experts on such subjects might label him a satanist but they might also do the same to all the cool kids; of which we are two.

 

lol

 

(thumbs u

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