Maximizing profit made easy, or why do your homework before slabbing books.

[DiceX]

Exhibit A

 

 

[thehumantorch]

He still has nine days for the big bids........

[DiceX]

I wonder how many books he actually shipped to Sarasota with visions of sugarplums dancing in his head, only to get them back in the mail and take the position that CGC only gives good grades to their friends and buddies, because his books are mint.

 

 

[ss5rmp]

the person did it for us poor folk...if you ask me they need a folk hero song

[The Troll King]

 

 

 

Not sure what is at issue here. He states he doesn't know much about them but doesn't say anything negative about CGC either.

 

[tangelwood42]

from my point of view, these books are undergraded at least by a 1.0 maybe more. Nice books with 5hitty grades imo

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FANTASTIC-FOUR-67-CGC-GRADED-KEY-ISSUE-/190636533066?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c62d2a54a#ht_1018wt_1045

 

6.5? really

[DiceX]

from my point of view, these books are undergraded at least by a 1.0 maybe more. Nice books with 5hitty grades imo

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FANTASTIC-FOUR-67-CGC-GRADED-KEY-ISSUE-/190636533066?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c62d2a54a#ht_1018wt_1045

 

6.5? really

 

The ability to arrive at an accurate grade by looking at those reflectoporn pics is a gift. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

 

[Ditch Fahrenheit]

ASM #4 PLOD

 

What's going on with the ASM #4 PLOD?

 

Is it just the photo playing tricks, or has the right edge of the front cover only been partially trimmed?

 

If so, I wonder why someone would do that?

[Ditch Fahrenheit]

from my point of view, these books are undergraded at least by a 1.0 maybe more. Nice books with 5hitty grades imo

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FANTASTIC-FOUR-67-CGC-GRADED-KEY-ISSUE-/190636533066?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c62d2a54a#ht_1018wt_1045

 

6.5? really

 

The ability to arrive at an accurate grade by looking at those reflectoporn pics is a gift. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

 

 

I agree.

 

I can see the guy's hands and camera more clearly than the book.

[jools&jim]

 

Back in the earliest days of CGC (when the very idea of "encapsulated" comics was still controversial), I clearly remember some higher profile industry grandees (Maggie Thompson, maybe?) arguing in favor of the service to skeptical old-school types. The gist of these discussions was that professional grading would give on-line shoppers more confidence that the books they were buying--from Poor to NM+--were actually in the advertised grades.

 

This was a consumer-advocacy approach designed to persuade collectors that pro grading was in the best interests of buyers, no matter if they were in the market for lowly G/VGs or top shelf museum pieces.

 

As far as I can remember, there was very little, if any, discussion of maximizing seller profits by potentially transforming raw books into potentially bigger money (this only emerged as the economics of slabbing began to assert itself). Instead, the focus was solely on consumer confidence via standardized grading, and putting fairly graded books of all grades into the hands of collectors who, due to the explosion in internet sales, were more at risk of being exploited and ripped off than ever before.

 

I know that times have changed. I guess what I'm saying is that these auctions--full of books which are now widely and fairly judged by some as not being "slab-worthy"--look an awful lot like what I thought CGC was supposed to be about in the first place...

 

 

[Speedy-D]

Back in the earliest days of CGC (when the very idea of "encapsulated" comics was still controversial), I clearly remember some higher profile industry grandees (Maggie Thompson, maybe?) arguing in favor of the service to skeptical old-school types. The gist of these discussions was that professional grading would give on-line shoppers more confidence that the books they were buying--from Poor to NM+--were actually in the advertised grades.

 

This was a consumer-advocacy approach designed to persuade collectors that pro grading was in the best interests of buyers, no matter if they were in the market for lowly G/VGs or top shelf museum pieces.

 

As far as I can remember, there was very little, if any, discussion of maximizing seller profits by potentially transforming raw books into potentially bigger money (this only emerged as the economics of slabbing began to assert itself). Instead, the focus was solely on consumer confidence via standardized grading, and putting fairly graded books of all grades into the hands of collectors who, due to the explosion in internet sales, were more at risk of being exploited and ripped off than ever before.

 

I know that times have changed. I guess what I'm saying is that these auctions--full of books which are now widely and fairly judged by some as not being "slab-worthy"--look an awful lot like what I thought CGC was supposed to be about in the first place...

 

I love that notion, that grading is there to give consumers confidence. But it's the sellers who pay for the service, so it seems inevitable that they'd be doing it to benefit their side of the transaction. Now, if Obama would get off his and make CGC a utility (AS HE PROMISED ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL ), we could have our tax money going to CGC to grade every comic that exists.

[DiceX]

Back in the earliest days of CGC (when the very idea of "encapsulated" comics was still controversial), I clearly remember some higher profile industry grandees (Maggie Thompson, maybe?) arguing in favor of the service to skeptical old-school types. The gist of these discussions was that professional grading would give on-line shoppers more confidence that the books they were buying--from Poor to NM+--were actually in the advertised grades.

 

This was a consumer-advocacy approach designed to persuade collectors that pro grading was in the best interests of buyers, no matter if they were in the market for lowly G/VGs or top shelf museum pieces.

 

As far as I can remember, there was very little, if any, discussion of maximizing seller profits by potentially transforming raw books into potentially bigger money (this only emerged as the economics of slabbing began to assert itself). Instead, the focus was solely on consumer confidence via standardized grading, and putting fairly graded books of all grades into the hands of collectors who, due to the explosion in internet sales, were more at risk of being exploited and ripped off than ever before.

 

I know that times have changed. I guess what I'm saying is that these auctions--full of books which are now widely and fairly judged by some as not being "slab-worthy"--look an awful lot like what I thought CGC was supposed to be about in the first place...

 

 

Yeah, and my post is about maximizing profit. Which is the reason for selling.

When you pay $40 to slab a book that will sell for $30, that would be from not doing your homework before throwing your money away.

 

No doubt the people buying the slabs will know what they're getting from a seller that doesn't have any experience in comics, but it's to his own demise.

 

 

[Sal]

from my point of view, these books are undergraded at least by a 1.0 maybe more. Nice books with 5hitty grades imo

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FANTASTIC-FOUR-67-CGC-GRADED-KEY-ISSUE-/190636533066?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c62d2a54a#ht_1018wt_1045

 

6.5? really

 

The ability to arrive at an accurate grade by looking at those reflectoporn pics is a gift. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

 

i was really hoping he was being facetious. really, really hoping

[Davenport]

Back in the earliest days of CGC (when the very idea of "encapsulated" comics was still controversial), I clearly remember some higher profile industry grandees (Maggie Thompson, maybe?) arguing in favor of the service to skeptical old-school types. The gist of these discussions was that professional grading would give on-line shoppers more confidence that the books they were buying--from Poor to NM+--were actually in the advertised grades.

 

This was a consumer-advocacy approach designed to persuade collectors that pro grading was in the best interests of buyers, no matter if they were in the market for lowly G/VGs or top shelf museum pieces.

 

As far as I can remember, there was very little, if any, discussion of maximizing seller profits by potentially transforming raw books into potentially bigger money (this only emerged as the economics of slabbing began to assert itself). Instead, the focus was solely on consumer confidence via standardized grading, and putting fairly graded books of all grades into the hands of collectors who, due to the explosion in internet sales, were more at risk of being exploited and ripped off than ever before.

 

I know that times have changed. I guess what I'm saying is that these auctions--full of books which are now widely and fairly judged by some as not being "slab-worthy"--look an awful lot like what I thought CGC was supposed to be about in the first place...

In a hobby known for fantasy that initial introduction certainly ranks way up there. Today that market seems to have settled on commoditizing papyrophobia and ocd perfection-quests.