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Stan Lee ONLY signs his OWN stuff now?

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I stated that of the 16 SS this is the only one that is CGC SS Signed by Stan Lee. Is this correct? Yes!

You have no idea whether any of the other 15 SS copies are signed by Stan Lee because there's no way to look up this information.

 

You could be correct - it may be the only Lee signed SS copy in 9.8 - but, then again, you could just as easily be wrong.

 

 

I was told recently by someone that I trust in the industly that ran the Stan Lee tribute event on 2011 that Stan now only signing books that he created or was associated with, so that is the information that I passed on to this individual.

Desertwind Comics spearheaded the Stan Lee Tribute event back in 2010 (not 2011) - I'm hoping you're not suggesting that they supplied you with this false information?

 

You told the OP that you "consilt" for CGC - what, exactly, have you done for CGC?

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I am the seller of this book, and what I stated is simple and true. I stated that CGC 9.8 is the highest Graded Star Wars book in existance. Is that correct? Yes! I stated that of the 16 SS this is the only one that is CGC SS Signed by Stan Lee. Is this correct? Yes! This whole post was started by a person who wanted to buy the item, but we could not come to a price that we were both happy with, and he is now upset. If you want to get a CGC, 9.8 and get it signed be my guest, then I will update it to 1 of 2. I was told recently by someone that I trust in the industly that ran the Stan Lee tribute event on 2011 that Stan now only signing books that he created or was associated with, so that is the information that I passed on to this individual. I am a 100% top rated ebay seller, and I take my reputation very seriously. I was not, and will continue to never mis-lead anyone. However, this is my book, and I have the right to ask for what ever I want out of it regardless if this individual thinks it is in reason or not. If I wanted to put $1,000,000 on this item, who is to say that I am some how wrong? It is mine to do what I want with, and I am not going to part with it unless I get the price I am looking for... For some reason this person tried to report me to CGC and Ebay because he did not like what I was doing for some reason. This is all the time I am going to waste on this conversation. Have a good day... Andrew

 

http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=178101

 

if you look at CGC census for 36, 39, 44 you will see that there are other STAR WARS books CgC graded at 9.9, which by in my opinion is higher than 9.8. I honestly don't mean to attack you, but if you make such bold sweeping comments in order to make your book appear more unique in order to engender a higher price, you should be able to back your claims. i've just disproven this one

 

your other claims may be harder to disprove, although they do seem hard to believe.

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I am the seller of this book, and what I stated is simple and true. I stated that CGC 9.8 is the highest Graded Star Wars book in existance. Is that correct? Yes! I stated that of the 16 SS this is the only one that is CGC SS Signed by Stan Lee. Is this correct? Yes! This whole post was started by a person who wanted to buy the item, but we could not come to a price that we were both happy with, and he is now upset. If you want to get a CGC, 9.8 and get it signed be my guest, then I will update it to 1 of 2. I was told recently by someone that I trust in the industly that ran the Stan Lee tribute event on 2011 that Stan now only signing books that he created or was associated with, so that is the information that I passed on to this individual. I am a 100% top rated ebay seller, and I take my reputation very seriously. I was not, and will continue to never mis-lead anyone. However, this is my book, and I have the right to ask for what ever I want out of it reguardless if this individual thinks it is in reason or not. If I wanted to put $1,000,000 on this item, who is to say that I am some how wrong? It is mine to do what I want with, and I am not going to part with it unless I get the price I am looking for... For some reason this person tried to report me to CGC and Ebay because he did not like what I was doing for some reason. This is all the time I am going to waste on this conversation. Have a good day... Andrew

 

On what basis are you claiming Stan Lee is no longer signing comics that he didn't create?

 

Are you claiming there are no 9.9 copies of any Star Wars comics?

 

How did you obtain the data for all of the signatures on the CGC census?

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I obviously ment Highest Graded Star Wars #1 as that was the book I was selling, and I will update my listing to clarify that I am talking about #1.

 

Do I sensationalize in my listings, heck ya! If you were trying to sell a red balloon, would you say hey buy this red balloon, or would you list it as For Sale: A *BRAND NEW * CHERRY RED AMAZING BALLOON! THIS BALLOON IS A MUST HAVE AND IS THE NICEST BALLOON I HAVE EVER SEEN! PERIOD!

 

Honestly, this is the last time I am going to post on this. It just makes me upset that my character gets called into question, and this person is going to all these lengths to try to ruin my eBay rating, and ultimately my eBay business simply because I did not sell him the item at the price he wanted. Please feel free to go get your own copy somewhere, and if you can get Stan Lee to sign it, great! I am not trying to force or trick someone into buying my item; I don’t even really want to sell it. The price range that I have it listed at is just the price I am comfortable letting it go for as I really like the item. Man, we should be talking about SDCC or something, not the price I am comfortable letting my Star Wars book go for. I closing, I will simply invite anyone to look at my seller feedback on eBay. I am a 100%, Top Rated, Power Seller for a reason. I am not trying to cause problems for anybody… Have a good week end… Andrew

 

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its your book and you are right you can sell it for what you want. just as black star comics does on ebay.

 

 

 

it may be the only 9.8 number 1 signed at the tribute i dont know. i do know that there is at least one more 9.8 signed by stan because my friend travis has one.

 

 

 

i know that he has one because for a couple years i have been busting his chops about the book. asking him why he would have stan lee sign that book. i know at that time roy thomas was editor at marvel. i dont think stan had anything to do with the book. im pretty sure he had nothing to do with the movie unless i missed his cameo in that one. maybe he was in a droid costume or in the band in the cantina scene?

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See this is my point. You are not providing accurate "sales data" (I'm trying to have a FACT based discussion with you) and you continue to pull out your @$$. Just admit that you NEVER contacted CGC and that you are just trying to make your book sound ultra rare so some poor sap will drop that amount of money for it.

 

You said you contacted CGC and they informed you this was the ONLY 9.8 Marvel Star Wars #1 signed by Stan Lee. What is this then my friend?

 

http://www.pristinecomics.com/product/star-wars-1-cgc-98-cgc-signature-series-stan-lee

 

You also stated that Stan Lee ONLY SIGNS IS OWN STUFF NOW. I asked you where did you get that information?

 

This was even signed the year prior before this book so you can't say CGC didn't know about it.

 

Just come clean and be honest.

 

I asked you to provide names @ CGC who you spoke with as I just wanted to pull a Ronald Reagan and trust you then verify your claims. As I have never seen of a CGC census where you could 'Google' who signed what CGC book.

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... and this person is going to all these lengths to try to ruin my eBay rating, and ultimately my eBay business simply because I did not sell him the item at the price he wanted.

 

I could give a flying F if you didn't like my offer. That's your call as the seller and you have all the right in the world to refuse it.

 

You continue to miss the point here. Plain and simple, you are trying to mislead the buyer community with these false claims in your description and misrepresent the CGC brand to support your lies.

 

These are your emails you sent me:

 

"Trust me.lol I appreciate your opinion, but I consilt for CGC, I specialise in G.I. Joe, Star Wars, and Transformers. I have been int he business 15 years, and Stan Lee will only sign his own stuff now unless you know him perosnally. I wish you Luck"

 

"This is the only one there is, and probably ever will be."

 

"Due what you got to do buddy! is 9.8 the higherst Star Wars book out there? Yes! There are actually 17 of these CGC Singature series books, but none of them are signed by Stan Lee. I have verified that 16 of them are not Stan Lee. One was Stan Lee, and it got opened and downgraded to a 9.6. So is this the only Star Wars #1 CGC 9.8 Stan Lee signature? Yes! So that statement is 100% true and correct. I am sorry that we could not complete a sale, but I am a well respected 100% top rated seller, so move on buddy. Find something better to do with your time than to worry about what I am doing. I welcome a call from CGC or Ebay. I amnot lying to anyone."

 

"I am not wasitng anymore time on this, but where on here does it say these 15 which is actually 16 + 1 has anytingn to do with who has signed the books. Obviously, I am not saying there are anre not any other SS Star Wars #1, it says that no where, and everybody knowss that. I am saying none of them are signed by stan lee."

 

"I never said Stan Lee does not sign anymore, go back and look at the email."

 

The proof is in your OWN words, dude. Good luck on ripping some poor kid off on this item.

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Very simply, if you dont like my price, dont buy it and move on... Its that simple! I am not trying to cause problems for anyone, the individual who has started this posts has wasted at least the majority of a while day of his life trying to "get me" for some reason. If I really wanted to part with this item, I would list it at $1000 and sell it for $700-$900 on Best offer, I choose not to. I dont get why this is some big controversy???

 

P.S. I have turned down $1125.00 for this item. Call me what you want, but for me, the owner of this item, it is not enough for me to part with it, as it is mine!

 

I just checked GPA, last sale for a 9.8 signed by stan was 610. I suggest you find Mr 1125 and hit his bid....fast.

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Very simply, if you dont like my price, dont buy it and move on... Its that simple! I am not trying to cause problems for anyone, the individual who has started this posts has wasted at least the majority of a while day of his life trying to "get me" for some reason. If I really wanted to part with this item, I would list it at $1000 and sell it for $700-$900 on Best offer, I choose not to. I dont get why this is some big controversy???

 

P.S. I have turned down $1125.00 for this item. Call me what you want, but for me, the owner of this item, it is not enough for me to part with it, as it is mine!

 

I just checked GPA, last sale for a 9.8 signed by stan was 610. I suggest you find Mr 1125 and hit his bid....fast.

 

maybe he's just an insufficiently_thoughtful_person who got gouged on an item and is trying to make himself feel like he didn't make a $1000 mistake, and maybe people told him those lies when they sold it to him. Maybe evil, maybe a sucker, maybe both? Maybe CGC consultant?

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I was told by someone who I trust that used to be high up with CGC, and now works with an online auction house that this was the only Star Wars #1 SS CGC 9.8 in existence from Stan Lee that had come though CGC. He told me that there was another, but it got cracked open to get a George Lucas signature, and when it was regarded it was downgraded to 9.6 because George nicked the cover. You have provided a picture of what looks like a current auction on another site with a copy that is CGC SS 9.8 from Stan Lee. If that is current, and not a picture of the one that got downgraded when it was opened, that is proof that I need to change my listing, and I will be doing so as not to miss-lead. However, can I say that you have done this in the most A-Hole way possible? I have tried to be polite and understanding the whole time, and you have acted like I child who did not get his way, so he decided to go pout and get even. As I stated earlier, it amazes me that this is the best thing you can be doing with your Thursday!

 

Congrats, you proved what I thought was right wrong! You get the gold medal!!! You are the man! You rule at telling people how they should price THEIR stuff on eBay if they don’t sell it to you at the price you want. You are also king of getting mad and trying to have them banned from eBay and CGC if they don’t agree to your demands of them! Bottom Line, I am still leaving the price where I have it as I don’t really want to sell the book, and that is what it is worth to me!

 

P.S. I just checked, and that auction you showed was from 2010 and is more than likley the 9.6 George Lucas book.

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I was told by someone who I trust that used to be high up with CGC, and now works with an online auction house that this was the only Star Wars #1 SS CGC 9.8 in existence from Stan Lee

 

All I told you when you when you asked me, was that I work for hardcore action hoes and that I was High as fcuk when I sent my book to CGC and that I was at StanLey's house when he said that to get a 9.8, "all you needed was persistance".....

 

 

Yo dog, you krazy man

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This mess sounds soooo made up especially cracking it for George Lucas of all people to sign and the book got nicked. Not mention if this a FORMER CGC higher up how would they even know what has come through the door since they left? Calling BS story telling fables on this one.

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I was told by someone who I trust that used to be high up with CGC, and now works with an online auction house that this was the only Star Wars #1 SS CGC 9.8 in existence from Stan Lee that had come though CGC. He told me that there was another, but it got cracked open to get a George Lucas signature, and when it was regarded it was downgraded to 9.6 because George nicked the cover. You have provided a picture of what looks like a current auction on another site with a copy that is CGC SS 9.8 from Stan Lee. If that is current, and not a picture of the one that got downgraded when it was opened, that is proof that I need to change my listing, and I will be doing so as not to miss-lead. However, can I say that you have done this in the most A-Hole way possible? I have tried to be polite and understanding the whole time, and you have acted like I child who did not get his way, so he decided to go pout and get even. As I stated earlier, it amazes me that this is the best thing you can be doing with your Thursday!

 

Congrats, you proved what I thought was right wrong! You get the gold medal!!! You are the man! You rule at telling people how they should price THEIR stuff on eBay if they don’t sell it to you at the price you want. You are also king of getting mad and trying to have them banned from eBay and CGC if they don’t agree to your demands of them! Bottom Line, I am still leaving the price where I have it as I don’t really want to sell the book, and that is what it is worth to me!

 

P.S. I just checked, and that auction you showed was from 2010 and is more than likley the 9.6 George Lucas book.

 

 

 

 

 

So now you are saying there's a CGC SS George Lucas book?

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I was told by someone who I trust that used to be high up with CGC, and now works with an online auction house that this was the only Star Wars #1 SS CGC 9.8 in existence from Stan Lee that had come though CGC. He told me that there was another, but it got cracked open to get a George Lucas signature, and when it was regarded it was downgraded to 9.6 because George nicked the cover. You have provided a picture of what looks like a current auction on another site with a copy that is CGC SS 9.8 from Stan Lee. If that is current, and not a picture of the one that got downgraded when it was opened, that is proof that I need to change my listing, and I will be doing so as not to miss-lead. However, can I say that you have done this in the most A-Hole way possible? I have tried to be polite and understanding the whole time, and you have acted like I child who did not get his way, so he decided to go pout and get even. As I stated earlier, it amazes me that this is the best thing you can be doing with your Thursday!

 

Congrats, you proved what I thought was right wrong! You get the gold medal!!! You are the man! You rule at telling people how they should price THEIR stuff on eBay if they don’t sell it to you at the price you want. You are also king of getting mad and trying to have them banned from eBay and CGC if they don’t agree to your demands of them! Bottom Line, I am still leaving the price where I have it as I don’t really want to sell the book, and that is what it is worth to me!

 

P.S. I just checked, and that auction you showed was from 2010 and is more than likley the 9.6 George Lucas book.

 

 

 

I just checked the certification # for that 9.8 you think was cracked for Steve Ditko George Lucas the certification number is still active and still a 9.8.

 

It was graded in December 2010. Are you telling us there was a George Lucas signing after that time, and there's now a 9.6 Stan Lee and George Lucas book out there?

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I obviously ment Highest Graded Star Wars #1 as that was the book I was selling, and I will update my listing to clarify that I am talking about #1.

 

Do I sensationalize in my listings, heck ya! If you were trying to sell a red balloon, would you say hey buy this red balloon, or would you list it as For Sale: A *BRAND NEW * CHERRY RED AMAZING BALLOON! THIS BALLOON IS A MUST HAVE AND IS THE NICEST BALLOON I HAVE EVER SEEN! PERIOD!

 

Honestly, this is the last time I am going to post on this. It just makes me upset that my character gets called into question, and this person is going to all these lengths to try to ruin my eBay rating, and ultimately my eBay business simply because I did not sell him the item at the price he wanted. Please feel free to go get your own copy somewhere, and if you can get Stan Lee to sign it, great! I am not trying to force or trick someone into buying my item; I don’t even really want to sell it. The price range that I have it listed at is just the price I am comfortable letting it go for as I really like the item. Man, we should be talking about SDCC or something, not the price I am comfortable letting my Star Wars book go for. I closing, I will simply invite anyone to look at my seller feedback on eBay. I am a 100%, Top Rated, Power Seller for a reason. I am not trying to cause problems for anybody… Have a good week end… Andrew

 

 

I wouldn't say it was brand new if it wasn't brand new, i wouldn't say it was cherry red if it was maroon. the rest is subjective, and opinion based. People have called you out on FACTS that you stated WRONG in an advertisement.

Think of it this way. You clearly value that comic. What if you were the one who bought that comic (based on your own ad) thinking it was the HIGHEST GRADED STAR WARS BOOK IN EXISTENCE and the ONLY CGC 9.8 signed by STAN LEE. Then after paying 2K+, you found out actually there's at least 3 Star Wars books (probably more) with higher grades, and at least one other CGC 9.8 signed by Stan Lee. Would you say "oh he was just using advertising hyperbole and made an honest mistake, its cool"? Or would you be mad as hell and think the guy tricked you?

 

People here don't like to feel like they're being tricked. And even worse they hate when it seems like people are outright lying to get more money from unsuspecting consumers.

 

So you can keep trying to make excuses, or hopefully you chalk it up as a lesson learned and provide more accurate descriptions going forward, which I think we can all agree is the ultimate desired result.

 

 

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it got cracked open to get a George Lucas signature, and when it was regarded it was downgraded to 9.6 because George nicked the cover. P.S. I just checked, and that auction you showed was from 2010 and is more than likley the 9.6 George Lucas book.

 

So now you are saying there's a CGC SS George Lucas book?

 

Well, if in fact this SW1 book was signed by George Lucas and reslabbed, it is a SS book, as it got a 9.6! Anyone who is into SS would love to show that book, and someone surely would have heard of the existance of such book. Personally, I have not seen it, or heard of it...will the owner of the Lucas book, please step up, please step up!

Forget a 9.8 Stan Lee book, I'd love to see a "May the Force be with you, best wishes: George Lucas" book....

 

 

or the 9.8 that someone else mentioned...I am totally serious, I have never seen this book and would make my week to see a Star Wars 1 signed by GL...

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-I-JOE-SPECIAL-1-1995-CGC-9-8-SS-SIGNED-BY-TODD-MCFARLANE-LARRY-HAMA-/110907389136?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item19d29874d0

 

more questionableness? I know they didn't initially like MacFarlane on GI JOE, but claiming that Marvel and Larry Hama 'fired' Todd Mac....

 

If he was, then I stand corrected. I always thought Todd was a cash cow and left Marvel on his own with the homies.

 

Note that the term 'fired' means something very specific from a legal and reputational perspective.

 

I'm pretty sure Marvel and Todd Mac would strongly object to anyone saying it was a firing. Maybe even strongly object in a legal way....

 

...But I could be wrong. Lot of comic experts here: Did Marvel and Larry Hama fire Todd Mac as claimed in this ebay ad?

 

I will happily eat crow if you can point me to a link or have other evidence of said firing.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-I-JOE-SPECIAL-1-1995-CGC-9-8-SS-SIGNED-BY-TODD-MCFARLANE-LARRY-HAMA-/110907389136?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item19d29874d0

 

more questionableness? I know they didn't initially like MacFarlane on GI JOE, but claiming that Marvel and Larry Hama 'fired' Todd Mac....

 

If he was, then I stand corrected. I always thought Todd was a cash cow and left Marvel on his own with the homies.

 

Note that the term 'fired' means something very specific from a legal and reputational perspective.

 

I'm pretty sure Marvel and Todd Mac would strongly object to anyone saying it was a firing. Maybe even strongly object in a legal way....

 

...But I could be wrong. Lot of comic experts here: Did Marvel and Larry Hama fire Todd Mac as claimed in this ebay ad?

 

I will happily eat crow if you can point me to a link or have other evidence of said firing.

 

Very interesting Holmes, my good man. Well done indeed! :applause:

 

Oh, I think I am now going to have Todd sign my #1 Spawn via DWC and fly to that event JUST to get him on video (which I will be uploading to YouTube) where I show him this now printed item description on my desk, and see what he has to say about it.

 

http://www.desertwindcomics.com/pricing.html#toddmcfarlane

 

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