Worst resubmitt result you have ever achieved?

[Mark 1]

you all forgot about 2 years ago when someone here cracked out an AF 15 blue label, have it signed and got a yellow label in one grade lower? it was quite an entertaining thread...to cut it short, he got CGC to change the grade higher after some "persuasion".....unless I am wrong about the changing grade part...I will let the expert searchers dig that out.

 

Ask and yea shall receive.

 

I still want to know how that grade changed...

 

Thanks for finding the thread

[DrWatson]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

[DrWatson]

you all forgot about 2 years ago when someone here cracked out an AF 15 blue label, have it signed and got a yellow label in one grade lower? it was quite an entertaining thread...to cut it short, he got CGC to change the grade higher after some "persuasion".....unless I am wrong about the changing grade part...I will let the expert searchers dig that out.

 

Ask and yea shall receive.

 

I still want to know how that grade changed...

 

Thanks for finding the thread

Mark Haspel, or whomever was in charge at the time, looked at the book again and decided it was a 6.0. It basically came down to the opinion of one person with the ability to change the grade.

[500Club]

you all forgot about 2 years ago when someone here cracked out an AF 15 blue label, have it signed and got a yellow label in one grade lower? it was quite an entertaining thread...to cut it short, he got CGC to change the grade higher after some "persuasion".....unless I am wrong about the changing grade part...I will let the expert searchers dig that out.

 

Ask and yea shall receive.

 

I still want to know how that grade changed...

 

Thanks for finding the thread

Mark Haspel, or whomever was in charge at the time, looked at the book again and decided it was a 6.0. It basically came down to the opinion of one person with the ability to change the grade.

That's a door that shouldn't have been cracked open.

[Old Fashion PB and J]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

To grade how cgc grades.. I picture it like a drinking game with a spinning wheel that had grades.

[Mark 1]

you all forgot about 2 years ago when someone here cracked out an AF 15 blue label, have it signed and got a yellow label in one grade lower? it was quite an entertaining thread...to cut it short, he got CGC to change the grade higher after some "persuasion".....unless I am wrong about the changing grade part...I will let the expert searchers dig that out.

 

Ask and yea shall receive.

 

I still want to know how that grade changed...

 

Thanks for finding the thread

Mark Haspel, or whomever was in charge at the time, looked at the book again and decided it was a 6.0. It basically came down to the opinion of one person with the ability to change the grade.

 

Thanks because I recall Haspell being the one who made the change and then pretty soon after that...he went on a hiatus. I'm not saying the two have anything to do with each other at all. Just to be clear.

 

I think that was a serious game changer for CGC if in fact they changed the grade because the guy was threatening legal action.

[DrWatson]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

To grade how cgc grades.. I picture it like a drinking game with a spinning wheel that had grades.

It's more like Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

[comicwiz]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

To grade how cgc grades.. I picture it like a drinking game with a spinning wheel that had grades.

It's more like Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

 

[DrWatson]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

To grade how cgc grades.. I picture it like a drinking game with a spinning wheel that had grades.

It's more like Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

 

This analogy is not applicable as it implies that with time and practice one might actually improve.

[comicwiz]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

To grade how cgc grades.. I picture it like a drinking game with a spinning wheel that had grades.

It's more like Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

 

This analogy is not applicable as it implies that with time and practice one might actually improve.

 

That's Queen Isabella's interpretation of the donkey's behind

[Tony S]

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do. I've had books stay the same, but I've never had a book go down in grade... even SS books.

 

That being said, I very seldom crack books for SS. I usually keep the ones already grade and buy duplicate raw copies at whatever show I'm attending. Plus, I don't give my books to numpties with ham hands to get them signed for me either.

To grade how cgc grades.. I picture it like a drinking game with a spinning wheel that had grades.

It's more like Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

 

This analogy is not applicable as it implies that with time and practice one might actually improve.

 

I do not think it's really fair - but it is funnnnyyyy.

[nearmint]

I've done pretty well. The only disappointing resub was an ASM #12 9.0 that came back 8.5. You just have to know which books not to resub because they don't have any pressable defects.

[Buzzetta]

I am sitting here in class and just laughed out loud at this.

 

Sunday class.

 

It is a finance class from 8-4 but we have been getting out at 3...

At least I will not miss the Yankee game.

 

I just want to say... I am still in fricken class...

[Comicopolis]

I thought this thread would be funnier.

[Gotham Kid]

Why play the CPR game and risk it?

 

Captain America Comics #1 went from a 9.6 to 9.8 ( not sure it was pressed though )

 

Instead of "hoping" that a book gets a grade bump on a resubmit, people need to learn how to grade, how CGC grades, and what pressing can and can't do.

 

 

[youfoundjake]

Pacific coast x-men 1 went from 9.6 to 9.8 as well. Added $250,000 in value

[*Bronze age fan*]

Ask Sufunk.

 

I am intrigued. I hope he chimes in.

 

I had a 9.2 Avengers 4 that looked like a VERY good resub candidate. Joey pressed out a few non cb dings but it to a 9.0 on the resub like a year ago. I tried again a couple months ago and AGAIN it dropped, this time from 9.0 to 8.5

 

Did it look like the book was possibly damaged at all in route to CGC either time? Or do the resub fairies just really really hate Avengers #4?

 

So gonna try to press and resub it again? I can't see this not coming back higher if it wasn't damaged in shipping at some point.

 

No.

 

They went on and on about how the back upper staple has all this damage coming off it that hammered the grade. For the life of me, I can't see what they are talking about???

 

One of these days, I will tell the whole story about what happened after the 8.5 but I'm pretty sure the boards will implode once I drop that bomb

 

And yes, I am DEFINITELY going to try for an 8.0 eventually (thumbs u

 

I am now highly interested in how they responded. I understand if you don't want to post publicly about it though. If you want to PM a short version I am highly curious now in how poorly they handled this situation.

 

How could CGC handle the situation wrong? He pressed the book and took the risk of regrading. It didn't work in his favor.

 

Then pressed it again and tried again with the same risk. Again, it came back lower.

 

Play the press, crack game and you may lose. It's not CGC's fault. Anything can happen along the way. The book being released from the slab could have had damage, the press could have caused something, shipping it again to CGC could have caused a problem. Any number of issues could occur when playing the CPR game.

 

Blaming CGC for your greed isn't appropriate. Especially, spouting public accusations about CGC without providing the details is wrong also.

 

Sufunk played the game and lost. End of story.

 

Not entirely true. The second submission was a straight resub. No press. I hand carried the book to Chicago and gave it to CGC to grade again.

 

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

 

Not knocking your work Joey in anyway. But truth is we are talking about delicate items and anything can happen to impact the grade including human judgement on that given day.

 

It's gambling. My opinion is sufunk was greedy and went for the 9.4. Trying again was

 

I would have been quite happy with that 9.2

 

 

I have to agree...If I owned an Avengers #4 in 9.2 I might die from the shock. Who am I kidding...if I owned a 6.0 I would feel like that was da BOMB!

[Ditch Fahrenheit]

Sometimes resubmissions work very well.

 

This AF15 went from a 4.5 to a 5.5 and then finally to a 6.0.

 

[Mark 1]

Maybe the resub game only works if you aren't a tool on the boards?

 

 

[Comicopolis]