The Modern Speculation Thread 5 5

[RockMyAmadeus]

Yeah, for some reason enjoying speculating on moderns gets a lot of CGC boardies panties all bunched up.

 

 

 

Speculating on back issues: GOOD

 

Speculating on brand new books: BAD

 

(thumbs u

[RockMyAmadeus]

40% Informative

20% Mis-informative

5% Drama

5% Off topic

30% Larry hate

 

SsOkay..

 

I have adamantium skin & the energy of a million exploding suns.

 

Don't be so hard on yourself Larry. Many board members appreciate your input - even the ones that give you grief at times (thumbs u

 

[400yrs]

(1) Detective 871 (2nd print) has a small print run of a little more than 3K, an awesome cover, and it's Scot Snyder's first Bat book. It could be huge, and make Walking Dead 33 2nd print look insignificant by comparison. a print run of approximately 37K which is tiny for a DC title let alone a Bat book.;

 

(2) Detective 871 (1st print) has a small print run of approximately 37K which is small for a DC Bat book. It is the first book that Scot Snyder wrote for Batman and has a classic cover.;

 

(3) Detective 880 is the first time Scot Snyder wrote a Joker story, it has a modest print run of 35K and an amazing cover by Jock. It may be my favorite Joker cover ever. While all three of these books have been getting some heat thanks to Death of the Family, I expect that they will get huge heat once that story gets in full swing and people realize how hard these books are becoming to find in top condition (particularly the 871 (2nd print).;

 

Over the last while, these books have gone up and down. I've sold several 871s and 873s for more than they are going right now.

 

For the time being, I'm hanging on to my remaining copies of 871, 871 2nd and 880. My thought is that these are the kinds of books that people will want in their permanent collections. 35K and 37K are big numbers, but not that big in the world of Batman.

Edited October 27, 2012 by 400yrs

[Pariah]

X-Men Annual #14

 

why you think it will increase in value?

Now apparently 1st appearance of gambit?

 

(%) probability that it will go up.

100% - new series is selling well & getting a lot of interest

 

what price do you think it will achieve?

$30 - $40

 

how long we should hold it? ie. long term/short term

flip the cheap one's now and buy more

 

As this heats up, do you think it will sink the value of 266? Or will the increased interest in Gambit also drive 266 as his first "full" appearance?

[thirdgreenham]

Daredevil #111 vol 1

 

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Silver Samurai (Kenuichio Harada) who will be in the new Wolverine movie

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? 20-40 for NM copies

how long we should hold it? ie. long term/short term short term right up till the Wolverine movie comes out

additional notes:

 

Thanks for this. I went to 2 LCSs today and neither had a copy. Will have to live my life without one for now.

[Hey Kids, Comics!]

This has the potential to be my favorite thread ever.

[Prince Namor]

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Appearance of new Nova, Sam Alexander.

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? $3. That's double what it is now.

how long we should hold it? Once the new series begins in January.

additional notes: He is already the Nova they use in the Spider-Man cartoon.

 

Seriously? You guys are going to speculate on books that go up $1.50 in price?

[Hey Kids, Comics!]

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Appearance of new Nova, Sam Alexander.

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? $3. That's double what it is now.

how long we should hold it? Once the new series begins in January.

additional notes: He is already the Nova they use in the Spider-Man cartoon.

 

Seriously? You guys are going to speculate on books that go up $1.50 in price?

 

All you have to do is buy 1000 copies!

[troydivision1]

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Appearance of new Nova, Sam Alexander.

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? $3. That's double what it is now.

how long we should hold it? Once the new series begins in January.

additional notes: He is already the Nova they use in the Spider-Man cartoon.

 

Seriously? You guys are going to speculate on books that go up $1.50 in price?

To measure a business's success you do not look at $ but % of profit.

This is how all businesses measure their individual stores.

 

Edited October 27, 2012 by umyeahwhatevers

[mangbus]

X-Men Annual #14

 

why you think it will increase in value?

Now apparently 1st appearance of gambit?

 

(%) probability that it will go up.

100% - new series is selling well & getting a lot of interest

 

what price do you think it will achieve?

$30 - $40

 

how long we should hold it? ie. long term/short term

flip the cheap one's now and buy more

 

As this heats up, do you think it will sink the value of 266? Or will the increased interest in Gambit also drive 266 as his first "full" appearance?

 

 

I hope this is gonna go up. I have a store that is sitting on approx 20 copies in NM- or better at cover price. They seem to be sellin online in the 4-9 range .. so I might cherry pick a half dozen of the best and play the waiting game.

[Muaythai607]

New Mutants 87.. first cable..

[paperheart]

Daredevil #111 vol 1

 

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Silver Samurai (Kenuichio Harada) who will be in the new Wolverine movie

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? 20-40 for NM copies

how long we should hold it? ie. long term/short term short term right up till the Wolverine movie comes out

additional notes:

 

pickycollector sold a raw NM- copy here for $75

[Beige]

Chew #1

 

[*]why you think it will decrease in value? rare as grass in high grade, likelihood of show being aired/ a hit is low

[*](%) probability that it will go down. 80%

[*]what price do you think it will achieve? $100 in 9.8

[*]how long we should short it? ie. long term

[*]additional notes:

 

 

Word!

The book is on the verge of a major tank.

[Beige]

This is what happens when you try to flip non-first prints.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360498739610?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

And whichever buffoon said this - '37,000 is a small print run'

 

37,000 is not a small print run FFS.

 

In September there were only 47 comics across the whole comic industry with higher runs.

And about 3500 with lower.

 

This isn't a game to be played if you don't know the rules.

 

Look for on-going series.

Low print runs - less than 8,000 is par - the less the better.

Stick with known talent.

Get in early.

Know the prices.

Know who to get the best deals re press/sub/post

Use CGC prescreen

Work hard - I study the market for 1hr on workdays and 6-8 hrs on days off.

Seperate comic account for $.

Research,research,research.

You only get out what you put in. (thumbs u

 

Good Luck

[Beige]

Daredevil #111 vol 1

 

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Silver Samurai (Kenuichio Harada) who will be in the new Wolverine movie

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? 20-40 for NM copies

how long we should hold it? ie. long term/short term short term right up till the Wolverine movie comes out

additional notes:

 

pickycollector sold a raw NM- copy here for $75

 

9.2 on clink for $120 last month.

[Boozad]

Yeah, for some reason enjoying speculating on moderns gets a lot of CGC boardies panties all bunched up.

 

 

That one never fails to make me laugh,

[Solar]

This isn't my arguement and I don't really care either way, but I think you're missing the mark on this one.

 

37k is a huge print run for an Image book.

 

37K is a small print run for a main-title Batman book.

 

In September, Batman sold 156K and Tec sold 84K. If you keep in mind the book Nico was referring to is the first part of the first Batman story by Scott Snyder, who is responsible for the 156K number on last month's main title, it' may be a little clearer why there aren't enough copies out there to meet demand.

 

It's all relative.

 

And whichever buffoon said this - '37,000 is a small print run'

 

37,000 is not a small print run FFS.

 

In September there were only 47 comics across the whole comic industry with higher runs.

And about 3500 with lower.

[Beige]

I didn't know who said it,and you are right,of course.

For a non-mainstream book that would be huge.

However to say that 37k is 'small' is disingenous.

 

In this case though,the numbers are such that any gain would be small and brief and not worth speculating 100 copies worth.

37,000 for Batman is small....but.

DC aren't silly - if they thought they could have sold 100,000 I'm sure they would have printed them.

The 3k second print speaks volumes about DC's confidence abour sales.

Cheers

[Mike's Rack]

why you think it will increase in value? 1st Appearance of new Nova, Sam Alexander.

(%) probability that it will go up. 100%

what price do you think it will achieve? $3. That's double what it is now.

how long we should hold it? Once the new series begins in January.

additional notes: He is already the Nova they use in the Spider-Man cartoon.

 

Seriously? You guys are going to speculate on books that go up $1.50 in price?

To measure a business's success you do not look at $ but % of profit.

This is how all businesses measure their individual stores.

For real? This thinking only works when you can move in volume and have low transaction costs. As an individual, your time is limited, you can only buy list, pack and ship a certain number of comics. You could spend your time doing this on books you expect to yield $1.50 each. Or, you could spend the exact same amount of time on a book that you expect to yield $10.00 and do much better with the same amount of effort. Because I am finite, I look at it as profit per transaction. If I spend $50 on a book and sell it for $100 I've made the same % profit, but I only had to buy, list, pack and ship one book.

[comicartfan]

I think this is a great thread !...Lots of fun !

 

Batman Adventures 12 - First appearance of Harley Quinnn - I've watched this book sell well in all grades and in 9.8 has gone from a $150 book to almost $300 in about 6 months time.

 

Harley Quinn one shot - First Harley Quinn in DC Continuity. This book has had a steady climb north in terms of price and I would imagine this will continue.