accessndx Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 There should be a BB28 club! I second that emotion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accessndx Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 If you wouldn't mind revisiting that PGX question one more time I'd appreciate it. Everything I've heard has been rather bad, but now I'm hearing some alternate info: as in higher grades (or at least equivalent) when submitted to the CGC. With regards to missed restoration: couldn't you potentially use a black light to scan the surface of the comic thru the slab? That technique coupled with a possible return policy and favorable pricing might give an individual some greater incentive to grab a PGX slab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 There have been stories of pgx grading tighter than CGC leading to upgrade for years, but my experience has been the opposite. Pgx grades differently, so upgrades and downgrades are to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 So, speculation on the 7.5 by Sparkle City on ebay? Nice PQ. Decent looking back cover for a 7.5. But most books by Sparkle City on ebay hammer for a price below market value. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brave-the-Bold-28-CGC-7-5-1st-Justice-League-of-America-DC-Silver-Age-Comic-/350822292294?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item51aea35b46 I am going to speculate that it goes for a steal (IMHO) at 18k. I have to comment on the current bidding for this item. There is a 0 feedback bidder that is bent on having the highest bid. Sparklecity is probably the best comic dealer on E-Bay and their integrity is beyond reproach. But the actions of this 0 feedback bidder will undoubtedly raise some controversy. I wish this bidder would go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 So, speculation on the 7.5 by Sparkle City on ebay? Nice PQ. Decent looking back cover for a 7.5. But most books by Sparkle City on ebay hammer for a price below market value. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brave-the-Bold-28-CGC-7-5-1st-Justice-League-of-America-DC-Silver-Age-Comic-/350822292294?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item51aea35b46 I am going to speculate that it goes for a steal (IMHO) at 18k. I have to comment on the current bidding for this item. There is a 0 feedback bidder that is bent on having the highest bid. Sparklecity is probably the best comic dealer on E-Bay and their integrity is beyond reproach. But the actions of this 0 feedback bidder will undoubtedly raise some controversy. I wish this bidder would go away. I agree BB but SC normally does a background check on zero or low bidders (I questioned one before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 There have been stories of pgx grading tighter than CGC leading to upgrade for years, but my experience has been the opposite. Pgx grades differently, so upgrades and downgrades are to be expected. Do you know of any way to examine the difference between their grading process/scales? To my knowledge, neither publishes their grading process... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 So, speculation on the 7.5 by Sparkle City on ebay? Nice PQ. Decent looking back cover for a 7.5. But most books by Sparkle City on ebay hammer for a price below market value. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brave-the-Bold-28-CGC-7-5-1st-Justice-League-of-America-DC-Silver-Age-Comic-/350822292294?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item51aea35b46 I am going to speculate that it goes for a steal (IMHO) at 18k. I have to comment on the current bidding for this item. There is a 0 feedback bidder that is bent on having the highest bid. Sparklecity is probably the best comic dealer on E-Bay and their integrity is beyond reproach. But the actions of this 0 feedback bidder will undoubtedly raise some controversy. I wish this bidder would go away. I agree BB but SC normally does a background check on zero or low bidders (I questioned one before). Do you think someone is schilling? Does Sparklecity broker comics for people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 There have been stories of pgx grading tighter than CGC leading to upgrade for years, but my experience has been the opposite. Pgx grades differently, so upgrades and downgrades are to be expected. Do you know of any way to examine the difference between their grading process/scales? To my knowledge, neither publishes their grading process... it doesnt even matter. PGX has no credibility in the comics market, except, for a few who prefer the lower prices they charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 So, speculation on the 7.5 by Sparkle City on ebay? Nice PQ. Decent looking back cover for a 7.5. But most books by Sparkle City on ebay hammer for a price below market value. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brave-the-Bold-28-CGC-7-5-1st-Justice-League-of-America-DC-Silver-Age-Comic-/350822292294?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item51aea35b46 I am going to speculate that it goes for a steal (IMHO) at 18k. I have to comment on the current bidding for this item. There is a 0 feedback bidder that is bent on having the highest bid. Sparklecity is probably the best comic dealer on E-Bay and their integrity is beyond reproach. But the actions of this 0 feedback bidder will undoubtedly raise some controversy. I wish this bidder would go away. I agree BB but SC normally does a background check on zero or low bidders (I questioned one before). That's good to hear. Still, it has to be discouraging to bidders to see this going on. The strategy of this zero feedback bidder is to immediately outbid everyone that bids. If I were bidding, I would walk away. I cannot see how this will benefit the consignor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 There have been stories of pgx grading tighter than CGC leading to upgrade for years, but my experience has been the opposite. Pgx grades differently, so upgrades and downgrades are to be expected. Do you know of any way to examine the difference between their grading process/scales? To my knowledge, neither publishes their grading process... it doesnt even matter. PGX has no credibility in the comics market, except, for a few who prefer the lower prices they charge. I agree that their reputation is mud and I avoid them most of the time. I was just seeking to understand your comment: Pgx grades differently, so upgrades and downgrades are to be expected. Reputation aside, it seems that many people have a different reason for not liking PGX and I wanted to understand if was based on a flaw in their systems or process versus bad people (management or employees). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roulette44 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 It is unfortunate this zero feedback bidder is in the mix. But remember SCC requires a credit on file (for indentification) for anyone bidding $15000 or more. hm - and there is someone with a Cgc 7.0 listed for sale and zero feedback.....I really think eBay is the problem. Someone has been using my scans for a "grab bag auction". I roported this a month ago and it's still there. A) cant pretend you own something you don't (provable by the slab number!) B) chance auctions are not allowed (which a grab bag auction is) Really frustrating and troubling ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) It is unfortunate this zero feedback bidder is in the mix. But remember SCC requires a credit on file (for indentification) for anyone bidding $15000 or more. hm - and there is someone with a Cgc 7.0 listed for sale and zero feedback.....I really think eBay is the problem. Someone has been using my scans for a "grab bag auction". I roported this a month ago and it's still there. A) cant pretend you own something you don't (provable by the slab number!) B) chance auctions are not allowed (which a grab bag auction is) Really frustrating and troubling ...... I agree eBay is not interested in doing very much to dissuade anyone from listing something on their sites (illegal, immoral, unethical or otherwise). Of course they have their policies and claim to be the pinnacle of security....but the reality is that their main priority is making a dime, everything else comes a distant second or worse. Frankly, they way the law is with the internet today, there isn't much we can do. Laws will progress and things will get better, but it is and always will be slow going. I wish I could ban eBay from my life, but it has become a small necessity and that sucks. Edited June 29, 2013 by rfoiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accessndx Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 I found this forum and thread an interesting read relating to PGX vs CGC: http://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/174185/CGC-vs-PGX.-graded-comics?PageIndex=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 It is unfortunate this zero feedback bidder is in the mix. But remember SCC requires a credit on file (for indentification) for anyone bidding $15000 or more. hm - and there is someone with a Cgc 7.0 listed for sale and zero feedback.....I really think eBay is the problem. Someone has been using my scans for a "grab bag auction". I roported this a month ago and it's still there. A) cant pretend you own something you don't (provable by the slab number!) B) chance auctions are not allowed (which a grab bag auction is) Really frustrating and troubling ...... Yeah, ebay deserves some of the blame. But I just contacted SC and they said if they don't hear from the dude today, his bids will be canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accessndx Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 Not for nothing and I know this point has been raised once before: but everyone starts with 0 on Ebay and gradually gains rep. Someone could have conceivably been searching for BB 28 for sale and found the Ebay link....finding that was the only place to obtain said comic currently in whatever grade they were looking for...they could have decided to open an acct. So FWIW it could be a totally legitimate buyer. I know my first few auctions with little or no rep I purchased some sizeable things. It could also be some sketchy however, so who knows. Either way it raises some questions but it could be nothing more than some newbie's first auction. If I were the seller I'd have blocked people with little or no feedback and eliminated that option. I always put as many limiters as allowed on any item I've put on the bay....won't keep all the baddies out but certainly clears the floor of many that are a known problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 This is true. This dude may really be legit and want the book. I'm sure SC will find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryAllen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Not for nothing and I know this point has been raised once before: but everyone starts with 0 on Ebay and gradually gains rep. Someone could have conceivably been searching for BB 28 for sale and found the Ebay link....finding that was the only place to obtain said comic currently in whatever grade they were looking for...they could have decided to open an acct. So FWIW it could be a totally legitimate buyer. I know my first few auctions with little or no rep I purchased some sizeable things. It could also be some sketchy however, so who knows. Either way it raises some questions but it could be nothing more than some newbie's first auction. If I were the seller I'd have blocked people with little or no feedback and eliminated that option. I always put as many limiters as allowed on any item I've put on the bay....won't keep all the baddies out but certainly clears the floor of many that are a known problem. (thumbs u Agreed, zero feedback buyers with actual intent to buy are likely more common than we give credit. Frankly, I think we see a zero feedback buyer, assume the worst and get frustrated because we now have to pay more. In all likelihood there will never be a way to fully "vet" all buyers before an auction outside of having a valid credit card or bank account provided. Any action further than that would be unwarranted and potentially prejudicious. Don't forget that the system is set up so you can put in the maximum you want to pay for any given item at any time. If someone else wants to pay more (zero feedback or otherwise) that is their prerogative. However, zero feedback sellers should be monitored and restricted for pre-perscribed periods of time and be held to performance standards. IMO eBay does a mediocre job at this today and could do with a higher level of scrutiny, striker/clearer regulations and increased staffing to monitor listing/selling activity. Edited June 29, 2013 by rfoiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roulette44 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I agree - the zero feedback bidder isn't ebay's issue (just mentioning the zero feedback seller). Brannon, good that you called SCC - better those bids get cancelled now! joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 But I just contacted SC and they said if they don't hear from the dude today, his bids will be canceled. Good job PeeWee ! Still, whether legitimate or not, I think SC should ban him. His newbie strategy of immediately outbidding everyone is annoying. It's not fair to the consignor as I think legitimate bidders will walk away. What's the upside to letting him bid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 But I just contacted SC and they said if they don't hear from the dude today, his bids will be canceled. Good job PeeWee ! Still, whether legitimate or not, I think SC should ban him. His newbie strategy of immediately outbidding everyone is annoying. It's not fair to the consignor as I think legitimate bidders will walk away. What's the upside to letting him bid ? Of course, if SC cancels his bids, the highest bid may be near ground zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
