Zacreth Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So I'm curious how did anyone order the FP variants? I attempted to order a few copies and in return I just received an email stating that they don't ship outside of Europe now.... so how did you get your copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think he meant the Ghost variant. Must be it then some variant I should've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niro Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So I'm curious how did anyone order the FP variants? I attempted to order a few copies and in return I just received an email stating that they don't ship outside of Europe now.... so how did you get your copy? I think these guys all pre-ordered at least month in advance, I am pretty sure they still ship outside EU, but maybe they enforced this restriction for East of West FP variant due to high demand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fufat70 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 well, i am talking about people selling raw not slabbed. Most of the people buying in those volumes are looking to quick flip, not hold for WD numbers. Dont underestimate the Western world's ZIRP in helping fund any and all bubbles Especially when you get'em for $1.75. Sell at or just over cover for a 100% profit. Not my game, but this does go on. just like stocks I'm in it for the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fufat70 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 To me... these people who flip right out of the gate and don't let the comic mature just to gain a dollar or two profit are truly BOTTOM FEEDERS!!! The only one making the money is Ebay. Geesh, are times that bad.... it might be time to find a real job. Sorry for venting but it really gets annoying when everyone tries to undercut someone for a quick buck. I hope we aren't heading toward darker times in this market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 well, i am talking about people selling raw not slabbed. Most of the people buying in those volumes are looking to quick flip, not hold for WD numbers. Dont underestimate the Western world's ZIRP in helping fund any and all bubbles Especially when you get'em for $1.75. Sell at or just over cover for a 100% profit. Not my game, but this does go on. just like stocks I'm in it for the long run. yup, and like 2000, they will be left holding the bag as the push more and more junk capital forward into the next flip. The margins will continue to compress until the bottom falls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrag Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So I'm curious how did anyone order the FP variants? I attempted to order a few copies and in return I just received an email stating that they don't ship outside of Europe now.... so how did you get your copy? I just got my tracking info - I live in chicago and they shipped my order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambra-migration Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) So I'm curious how did anyone order the FP variants? I attempted to order a few copies and in return I just received an email stating that they don't ship outside of Europe now.... so how did you get your copy? They're limiting it to one per customer now, read the comics listing on the website. Anyone who ordered more than one got their order in ages ago. For those of you who've ordered the FP variant, are you listing the comic already? I don't know when I'm going to get my copy so going to avoid having someone waiting for ages. Edited March 28, 2013 by gambra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So I'm curious how did anyone order the FP variants? I attempted to order a few copies and in return I just received an email stating that they don't ship outside of Europe now.... so how did you get your copy? I just got my tracking info - I live in chicago and they shipped my order Yea I'm thinking that due to demand they stopped shipping it overseas. Kinda sucks but oh well. Was hoping to be able to get a few copies to try to get a 9.8 but guess I'll have to try on the for sale section then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrag Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) To me... these people who flip right out of the gate and don't let the comic mature just to gain a dollar or two profit are truly BOTTOM FEEDERS!!! The only one making the money is Ebay. Geesh, are times that bad.... it might be time to find a real job. Sorry for venting but it really gets annoying when everyone tries to undercut someone for a quick buck. I hope we aren't heading toward darker times in this market. Couldn't disagree with this statement more. So everyone who sells modern comics as they are released doesn't have a full time job? and are bottom feeders? No one forces anyone to make a purchase. If someone wants to pay XX over cover then let them. Edited March 28, 2013 by cdrag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The real potential of the secondary market won't be seen for a few issues. #6 has been mentioned several times in this thread. I would say maybe even #4-5. NWM was huge at #3 and now I see a stack of #4 at every LCS. I don't think this will be a ToT where #1-4 were hard to get 1st prints. Most of us Previews ordered a few dozen copies (I am in for 44 copies). But being the only person at my LCS who bought a copy at 5:30pm (when they had 30-40 copies and I don't know if they sold any after me but I can check back in a few days) I might go back and pick up the rest. If I can make $40-50 on all of those and still have my Previews order to hold for a few months then I'm going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjoseph7772 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 44 is an odd number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 44 is an odd number no, it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 44 is an odd number Hah I know. With shipping it was how much money I had left in my PayPal account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krighton Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 my FP still says Processing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 The real potential of the secondary market won't be seen for a few issues. #6 has been mentioned several times in this thread. I would say maybe even #4-5. NWM was huge at #3 and now I see a stack of #4 at every LCS. I don't think this will be a ToT where #1-4 were hard to get 1st prints. Most of us Previews ordered a few dozen copies (I am in for 44 copies). But being the only person at my LCS who bought a copy at 5:30pm (when they had 30-40 copies and I don't know if they sold any after me but I can check back in a few days) I might go back and pick up the rest. If I can make $40-50 on all of those and still have my Previews order to hold for a few months then I'm going to do it. well, your first paragraph is more evidence that NWM is oversold due to speculation: Nowhere Men #1 11820 Nowhere Men #2 7370 Nowhere Men #3 7420 2nd issue % Drop: 38% That's deep into speculator range AND the book was "overlooked", which triggered the price rise. Saga #1 37640 Saga #2 36890 Saga #3 38900 2nd issue % Drop: 2% Over triple the print run, but 3rd issue passed #1 and the book has been stable and caught fire almost a year later. This is the model that matters, and what I hope to see to know EoW is a stable winner. Obviously the bubble has grown, and 2% is likely unachieveable. Anythign 15% or lower is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The real potential of the secondary market won't be seen for a few issues. #6 has been mentioned several times in this thread. I would say maybe even #4-5. NWM was huge at #3 and now I see a stack of #4 at every LCS. I don't think this will be a ToT where #1-4 were hard to get 1st prints. Most of us Previews ordered a few dozen copies (I am in for 44 copies). But being the only person at my LCS who bought a copy at 5:30pm (when they had 30-40 copies and I don't know if they sold any after me but I can check back in a few days) I might go back and pick up the rest. If I can make $40-50 on all of those and still have my Previews order to hold for a few months then I'm going to do it. well, your first paragraph is more evidence that NWM is oversold due to speculation: Nowhere Men #1 11820 Nowhere Men #2 7370 Nowhere Men #3 7420 2nd issue % Drop: 38% That's deep into speculator range AND the book was "overlooked", which triggered the price rise. Saga #1 37640 Saga #2 36890 Saga #3 38900 2nd issue % Drop: 2% Over triple the print run, but 3rd issue passed #1 and the book has been stable and caught fire almost a year later. This is the model that matters, and what I hope to see to know EoW is a stable winner. Obviously the bubble has grown, and 2% is likely unachieveable. Anythign 15% or lower is great. Thank you for all the information. That was really helpful. Do you think Saga #2 only dropped 2% because #1 was a double issue? We got more story and more questions to ask ourselves. So I would think 15% would be a great number still like you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaseman210 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Still waiting on my pre-orders, but I couldn't resist picking up a reader from the LCS today. Can't wait to finally read it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 purely SPECULATION question. i am asking because i do not know the answer. Do you feel that because Hickman works (a lot) for Marvel, that if push came to shove, EoW and/or MP would suffer so he could meet the demands of a Marvel Schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 purely SPECULATION question. i am asking because i do not know the answer. Do you feel that because Hickman works (a lot) for Marvel, that if push came to shove, EoW and/or MP would suffer so he could meet the demands of a Marvel Schedule? I can try searching for it, but he gave a reason why Secret suffered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
