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dikran

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So I was digging thru some old stuff at my parents' house and came across an Overstreet Monthly Price Guide from 1993. I thought it might be a cool idea to see how 20 years has helped (or hindered) prices of SA keys today. Granted this was pre-CGC and the prices were only for VG VF & NM.

 

Here goes in alphabetical order:

 

AF15: 2063 5577 8000

ASM1: 1913 5368 7700

AV1: 357 950 1370

AV4: 207 551 794

BB28: 773 2091 2990

BB34: 250 725 1075

FF1: 2025 5448 7800

Hulk1: 1125 3040 4354

Hulk181: 86 214 300 (I know it's BA)

JIM83: 619 1671 2395

SC4: 2500 7500 10750

SC22: 714 2000 2926

TOS39: 563 1522 2180

TTA27: 422 1138 1632

TTA35: 225 575 800

XM1: 597 1631 2327

 

Ten grand back then would have amassed quite a collection, too bad I was only in high school...

 

I would assume Avengers books probably have the highest percentage gains overall and obviously AF15 in NM would probably get you almost 30x your money back. Lower grade DCs seem to have gained the least.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I might have forgotten to list.

 

 

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Bronty

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So I was digging thru some old stuff at my parents' house and came across an Overstreet Monthly Price Guide from 1993. I thought it might be a cool idea to see how 20 years has helped (or hindered) prices of SA keys today. Granted this was pre-CGC and the prices were only for VG VF & NM.

 

Here goes in alphabetical order:

 

AF15: 2063 5577 8000

ASM1: 1913 5368 7700

AV1: 357 950 1370

AV4: 207 551 794

BB28: 773 2091 2990

BB34: 250 725 1075

FF1: 2025 5448 7800

Hulk1: 1125 3040 4354

Hulk181: 86 214 300 (I know it's BA)

JIM83: 619 1671 2395

SC4: 2500 7500 10750

SC22: 714 2000 2926

TOS39: 563 1522 2180

TTA27: 422 1138 1632

TTA35: 225 575 800

XM1: 597 1631 2327

 

Ten grand back then would have amassed quite a collection

 

 

Its kind of a fictional notion though that you could have just bought 9.4 copies of these books at those prices.

 

What you would have ended up with is a bunch of 8.5s and 9.0s bought as NMs that you paid over guide for, some percentage of which would turn out to be restored.

 

The only sure fire way to end up with true NM copies of these was to be in the right place, at the right time, with cash on hand, when significant new pedigrees came out.

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dikran

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Well even if you paid 10,000$ for a ''NM'' AF15 in 1993 and got back an 8.0 slab today, you still made over 70,000$.

 

I considered this more as a ''ballpark figure'' type of exercise. But I agree, it's not like we were walking into an LCS and paying guide for these books back then or even before.

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So I was digging thru some old stuff at my parents' house and came across an Overstreet Monthly Price Guide from 1993. I thought it might be a cool idea to see how 20 years has helped (or hindered) prices of SA keys today. Granted this was pre-CGC and the prices were only for VG VF & NM.

 

Here goes in alphabetical order:

 

AF15: 2063 5577 8000

ASM1: 1913 5368 7700

AV1: 357 950 1370

AV4: 207 551 794

BB28: 773 2091 2990

BB34: 250 725 1075

FF1: 2025 5448 7800

Hulk1: 1125 3040 4354

Hulk181: 86 214 300 (I know it's BA)

JIM83: 619 1671 2395

SC4: 2500 7500 10750

SC22: 714 2000 2926

TOS39: 563 1522 2180

TTA27: 422 1138 1632

TTA35: 225 575 800

XM1: 597 1631 2327

 

Ten grand back then would have amassed quite a collection, too bad I was only in high school...

 

I would assume Avengers books probably have the highest percentage gains overall and obviously AF15 in NM would probably get you almost 30x your money back. Lower grade DCs seem to have gained the least.

 

Let me know if there's anything else I might have forgotten to list.

 

Thanks

The keys then are still the blue chips now! :cloud9:

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Given that I sold my slabbed 3.0 Showcase # 4 last night here on the boards for just $2,650, that looks like it would have been a money loser over the last 20 years.

 

Of course, I have no idea if it sold for full guide back then, or even what the the "full guide" value is for it today.

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Just an FYI - that was right after the first real big pop in Silver Age prices. That eight grand for an AF 15 was really high to what it was 2-3 years previously.

Absolutely true. In 1989 I sold a killer ASM 1 as a nm for $1250. I had bought it a year earlier for $900. It later graded 9.0 ow. Then was pressed to a 9.2.

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Given that I sold my slabbed 3.0 Showcase # 4 last night here on the boards for just $2,650, that looks like it would have been a money loser over the last 20 years.

 

Of course, I have no idea if it sold for full guide back then, or even what the the "full guide" value is for it today.

 

Latest Overstreet has it at $1,750 in 2.0 and $3,500 in 4.0. Averaging those values gives $2,625 for a 3.0. So, it looks like you got full guide, although a tad below a $2,750 sale on GPA from earlier this month. But you avoided some of the fees from selling on other sites.

 

I'm also surprised the increase during the past 20 years hasn't been greater on this book in this grade.

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While you might have difficulty finding anything like a real NM for those prices back then, I'm guessing VG copies could be found at a discount.

 

Around 2004 I picked up a raw "VG" FF1 for $1250 on ebay, it was overgraded, but I think guide was around $800 for a 2.0 at the time. It looked like a 3.5 in the scan to me, and ended up coming back from CGC as a 3.0, so unless the value actually dropped in the next ten years, those prices seem high.

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Was Adventure Comics 247 and/or Flash 105 mentioned? I would think they were bigger keys than BB 34 and TTA 35 20 years ago?

 

Adventure 247: 743 1857 2600

Flash 105: 571 1429 2000

 

 

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Some of the VGs have only doubled which isn't a very good return over 20 years (3.5% per annum). Considering I'm comparing raw prices from 1993 with GPA prices today the gain is probably even worse.

 

VG ASM 1

1993 - $1,913

2012 - $3,300

 

VG FF1

1993 - $2,025

2012 - $4,700

 

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Some of the VGs have only doubled which isn't a very good return over 20 years (3.5% per annum). Considering I'm comparing raw prices from 1993 with GPA prices today the gain is probably even worse.

 

VG ASM 1

1993 - $1,913

2012 - $3,300

 

VG FF1

1993 - $2,025

2012 - $4,700

and if you figure in the cost of inflation hm

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