Rate "Man of Steel," 1-10 Scale

[ianh]

Fandoms will always be overly critical in my experience and that is why you see all the 1's imo. For a lot of fans all it takes is one thing like Lois having red hair that they deemed as someone taking a dump on their childhood and it's obviously a lousy movie. They just can't get past it. Nothing wrong with it though, it's their opinion.

 

So, they are giving it a grudge-?

 

 

 

 

-slym

 

Exactly.You sound surprised people would be that petty.

 

 

[sakaridis]

Fandoms will always be overly critical in my experience and that is why you see all the 1's imo. For a lot of fans all it takes is one thing like Lois having red hair that they deemed as someone taking a dump on their childhood and it's obviously a lousy movie. They love it so much that they cannot respond to any sort of criticism. Nothing wrong with it though, it's their opinion.

 

Fandoms will always be overly enthusiastic in my experience and that is why you see all the 10's imo. For a lot of fans all it takes is one thing like Superman kickin' butt and looking cool that they deemed as someone validating their whole existence and it's obviously a cinematic masterpiece. They just can't accept any criticism. Nothing wrong with it though, it's their opinion.

 

I don't necessarily believe that, but I just wanted to show you how easy it is to turn this flimsy argument around? Sweeping generalizations are a really bad thing and we've seen lots of them on the boards these days... from both camps!

[ianh]

 

I don't necessarily believe that, but I just wanted to show you how easy it is to turn this flimsy argument around? Sweeping generalizations are a really bad thing and we've seen lots of them on the boards these days... from both camps!

 

Was that a question or a statement? It wasn't a generalization but an observation. Fandoms are usually a lot more critical and in a lot of cases overly critical because they have a vested interested in the character or brand.

 

This isn't breaking news. Go to any Star Wars or Transformers fan site. You can almost hear the keyboards breaking in some of the threads if you listen closely. If that shop owner a few posts above this would have defended the movie someone would have raged on him I would bet. He did the smart thing and just avoided it.

 

*Spoiler Alert*

 

But back to my original point yeah, cause 1 thing that happened in the movie like I don't know Superman killing someone didn't cause any sort of uproar or anything from fans. Might have even been on a few new sites if I recall correctly. I'm sure that one thing pissed people off enough to hate the entire movie.

 

There are people at either side of the spectrum but is most certainly not a flimsy argument. Some people just focus on the bad instead of the good and some people probably just thought it was a crappy movie. I'm sure the 1's are made up of both types just as the 10's are made up of a few people that you described.

 

btw Superman kicking butt and looking cool is 2 things....

[dudeman5000]

I know it would be stupid, but I wish there were .5s in there. I think it was better than a 7, but not quite good enough to be an 8. But I watched it for the second time yesterday, and really enjoyed it.

 

Am I the only one that got a litte emotional when supes...did that thing he had to do? I was tired both times that I saw it which typically makes me more emotional, but it really got me.

 

I got a little teary eyed when little Clark pretended he was Superish with the cape in front of his dog.

 

What Superman did at the end of the movie I should have cried because finally Superman became a non-pansy. He did the right thing!

 

Only took him 75 years to finally be a man.

 

Scene with his Dad on the highway got me good!

 

I called this a solid 9-loved it!

 

Chris

[Dr. Balls]

Wow. I mean, wow. We just came back from seeing Supes at IMax 3D and I can say that is probably the best superhero movie that has been made to date. and I'm not into DC stuff whatsoever, so I was pleasantly surprised to be amazed at a non-Marvel film. The whole film had interesting fluidity, unreal action, emotion and you cared about who was on screen.

 

My wife - who is the farthest female from comic book-related anything cried at this film. I couldn't believe it.

 

Bravo for getting Supes right.

[Unca Ben]

Kinda OT, but maybe not-

 

Isn't hiding under an overpass during a tornado considered a bad idea nowadays?

 

I realize the scene is a flashback when this may have been sop, but I was watching one of those weather channel tornado docs and it stated to find a ditch or low lying area- underneath an overpass is discouraged.

[Crimebuster]

 

I got a little teary eyed when little Clark pretended he was Superish with the cape in front of his dog.

 

What Superman did at the end of the movie I should have cried because finally Superman became a non-pansy. He did the right thing!

 

Only took him 75 years to finally be a man.

 

 

 

This just in: Killing people makes you a man. Spending 75 years saving lives while trying to uphold a personal moral code, that's for pansies.

 

Got it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, on an unrelated note, when they had the shot of young Clark playing superhero with the cape, I had to wonder exactly who he was pretending to be. It's an iconic shot of a kid pretending to be Superman, sure, but since Superman doesn't exist yet... was there some golden age hero in Clark's world he was emulating?

 

The people I saw the movie with all asked the same thing afterwards as well, for whatever that's worth. Since I couldn't answer the question, I killed them, because that's how men solve problems.

[Dr. Balls]

 

The people I saw the movie with all asked the same thing afterwards as well, for whatever that's worth. Since I couldn't answer the question, I killed them, because that's how men solve problems.

 

Using Heat rays from your eyes or super strength?

[Crimebuster]

 

The people I saw the movie with all asked the same thing afterwards as well, for whatever that's worth. Since I couldn't answer the question, I killed them, because that's how men solve problems.

 

Using Heat rays from your eyes or super strength?

 

 

Actually, I used super breath. It was... messy.

[Guest Grails]

Wow. I mean, wow. We just came back from seeing Supes at IMax 3D and I can say that is probably the best superhero movie that has been made to date. and I'm not into DC stuff whatsoever, so I was pleasantly surprised to be amazed at a non-Marvel film. The whole film had interesting fluidity, unreal action, emotion and you cared about who was on screen.

 

My wife - who is the farthest female from comic book-related anything cried at this film. I couldn't believe it.

 

Bravo for getting Supes right.

 

I saw it today as well and your thoughts mirror my own. I felt like a kid again staring at the screen in amazement.

[MyComicBookArt]

[font:Impact]Awesome movie! Easily a 9.0 [/font]

 

[font:Century Gothic]Even better second time around.

Not quite understanding the mixed love/hate reviews. [/font]

 

[font:Book Antiqua]First super hero flick in a long time

that wasn't simply hiding behind sarcastic one liners.[/font]

 

-Michael

 

[bronze_rules]

8.0 it felt disjointed a bit in some places. I sort of felt the character and story development could have flowed better. That being said, the action and special effects were fantastic in my opinion.

[Calamerica]

9.0.

 

I can live with the story-line changes as long as they "fit" the genre.

 

The Cinema folks are extremely bright, and know that what worked in the 1930's - 1960's can't/won't/SHOULD NOT work now. We as movie-goers and story-listeners are much different than yesteryears' kids.

 

I skimmed through this great Thread, and will take the time to go back and read it thoroughly out of respect for the OP and others, and most of them know that I am the ultimate Silver Age Die hard Dinosaur that has ever posted on this Board. Yet, I am not that dumb to expect the world not to grow and reach different levels. Ya gotta take da good wid da bad...

 

CAL

[Bosco685]

New votes captured (10.0 x 1, 9.0 x 3, 8.0 x 6, 7.0 x 1, 6.0 x 1, 5.0 x 1, 4.0 x 1).

 

 

MEAN = 7.2

MEDIAN = 8.0

MODE = 8.0

 

So the most frequent vote is an 8.0 so far. I wonder if this poll allowed for second viewing votes if voters would change their scores up or down?

[Bosco685]

I was checking IMDB, and they have this movie scored at an 8.2/10.0 based on 78,826 votes. So we are tracking very close to the popular score at this point.

 

By the way, since our 200th vote was cast (9.0 x 1).

 

 

MEAN = 7.3

MEDIAN = 8.0

MODE = 8.0

[ComicConnoisseur]

****SPOILER ALERT******

 

Haven't seen it yet, though most of the non-spoiler discussion has pretty much told me most of what I need to know (I will still see it). A lot of people are focusing on Mark Waid's 'Superman doesn't kill' remark, but if you actually read the whole post, it's NOT that Superman killed Zod, it's what led up to it and how poorly it was set up.

 

Here's the actual part:

 

And then we got to The Battle of Metropolis, and I truly, genuinely started to feel nauseous at all the Disaster Porn. Minute after minute after endless minute of Some Giant Machine laying so much waste to Metropolis that it’s inconceivable that we weren’t watching millions of people die in every single shot. And what’s Superman doing while all this is going on? He’s halfway around the world, fighting an identical machine but with no one around to be directly threatened, so it’s only slightly less noticeable that thousands of innocents per second are dying gruesomely on his watch. Seriously, back in Metropolis, entire skyscrapers are toppling in slo-mo and the city is a smoking, gray ruin for miles in every direction, it’s Hiroshima, and Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich are somewhere muttering “Too far, man, too far”…but, you know, Superman buys the humans enough time to sacrifice many, many of their own lives to bomb the Giant Machine themselves and even makes it back to Metropolis in time to catch Lois from falling (again), so…yay?

 

And then Superman and Lois land in the three-mile-wide crater that used to be a city of eight million people, and the staff of the Planet and a couple of other bystanders stagger out of the rubble to see Superman and say, “He saved us,” and before you can say either “From what?” or “Wow, these eight are probably the only people left alive,” and somehow–inexplicably, implausibly, somehow–before Superman can be bothered to take one second to surrender one ounce of concern or assistance to the millions of Metropolitans who are without question still buried under all that rubble, dead or dying, he saunters lazily over to where General Zod is kneeling and moping, and they argue, and they squabble, and they break into the Third Big Fight, the one that broke my heart.

 

See, everyone else in Zod’s army has been beaten and banished, but General Zod lives and so, of course, he and Superman duke it out in what, to everyone’s credit, is the very best super-hero fight I’ve ever seen, just a marvel of spectacle. But once more–and this is where I knew we were headed someplace really awful–once more, Superman showed not the slightest split-second of concern for the people around them. Particularly in this last sequence, his utter disregard for the collateral damage was just jaw-dropping as they just kept crashing through buildings full of survivors. I’m not suggesting he stop in the middle of a super-powered brawl to save a kitten from a tree, but even Brandon Routh thought to use his heat vision on the fly to disintegrate deadly falling debris after a sonic boom. From everything shown to us from the moment he put on the suit, Superman rarely if ever bothered to give the safety and welfare of the people around him one bit of thought. Which is why the climax of that fight broke me.

 

 

Discuss.

 

So this was Waid saying all that? I just lost all sorts of respect for him if so as this is so completely wrong I'd introduce him to straws and the art of clutching all because he is butthurt Superman killed someone.

By Mark Waid calling it Disaster Porn he gave me the impression of talking down to us super hero movie going fans like we are stupid and dense. I got the similar feeling from the Rotten Tomatoes critics.

All in all Mark Waid may be a good comic book writer, but I will take David Goyer the movie and video game writer over Mark Waid any day of week.

 

[bane]

The next big release is World War Z.

 

Will be interesting to see its box office opening.

 

So far on IMDB its at 7.1 while Man of Steel is holding 8.2.

 

RT is a different story with MoS certified rotten at 56% and World War Z certified fresh at 74%.

 

[fantastic_four]

Also, on an unrelated note, when they had the shot of young Clark playing superhero with the cape, I had to wonder exactly who he was pretending to be. It's an iconic shot of a kid pretending to be Superman, sure, but since Superman doesn't exist yet... was there some golden age hero in Clark's world he was emulating?

 

I wondered that as well and the first hero that popped to mind was Captain Marvel.

[fantastic_four]

By Mark Waid calling it Disaster Porn

 

Can someone explain to me what people are thinking by using the word "porn" like this? Waid isn't the first time I've heard this usage, but pornography explicitly entails sexual excitement. Is he implying that we're getting boners from collapsing buildings? I can only guess that he's gone through male menopause and can't remember the difference between regular excitement and the type he's getting at.

[Bosco685]

Also, on an unrelated note, when they had the shot of young Clark playing superhero with the cape, I had to wonder exactly who he was pretending to be. It's an iconic shot of a kid pretending to be Superman, sure, but since Superman doesn't exist yet... was there some golden age hero in Clark's world he was emulating?

 

I wondered that as well and the first hero that popped to mind was Captain Marvel.

 

Was he acting like he was flying, or just running around with a cape?

 

Didn't Zorro have a cape, which was also part of the inspiration for Batman? He's been around since 1919.