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The Copper 100: The Most Important Marvel Comics (1984-1991)

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Bosco685

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Carnage was removed because it came out too late. The others were removed when I got rid of variants. We'll see what happens with the updated list.

 

Very useful threads thanks. Would appreciate a similar thread for the other CA publishers.

 

Independents are going to require a top 200-300 potentially. But well worth it.

 

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Carnage was removed because it came out too late. The others were removed when I got rid of variants. We'll see what happens with the updated list.

 

Very useful threads thanks. Would appreciate a similar thread for the other CA publishers.

 

Independents are going to require a top 200-300 potentially. But well worth it.

 

:cloud9:

 

I've started a list for the non-Big Two publishers, but it's almost unwieldy. I'll post my thoughts on it once I nail down the DC and Marvel ones.

 

Glad the list is proving beneficial. It's certainly proving to be beneficial to me, too. I'm totally in list creation mode.

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Okay, here's what I've done. I realized that no one can agree on when the Copper Age starts, and because 1984 seems like a completely arbitrary date to start a list like this, I've decided to do this by decade. So here's the first draft of a top 100 Marvel comics from the '80s (look for the '90s list after we nail down this one).

 

For this first draft, all I've done is A) Remove those titles from the previous list that had a cover date of January 1990 or later, and B) Add key issues that I knew off the top of my head.

 

So, what am I missing? I added some key issues, but I know I missed just as many. And what about great stories that might not be "key issues" per se? I think the early '80s were great X-Men stories, but I don't want to add only UXM issues, but if that's what you have, give 'em to me.

 

I'm sure there are more issues to add from 1980 to 1983, and it should be relatively easy to eliminate other issues (such as DD 257 or FF 286), so let's add before we start taking away...

 

Remember, this list should be a summary of must own '80s books, so not just keys, but also great reads that symbolize the era.

 

Italics indicate issues I've added since the last update...

 

Reno's 100: The Most Important Marvel Comics 1980-1989

  1. Alpha Flight 1 First issue
  2. Alpha Flight 33 First Lady Deathstrike
  3. Alpha Flight 51 1st Jim Lee
  4. Amazing Spider-Man 200 Origin retold
  5. Amazing Spider-Man 238 First Hobgoblin
  6. Amazing Spider-Man 239 Second Hobgoblin
  7. Amazing Spider-Man 252 1st black costume
  8. Amazing Spider-Man 265 1st Silver Sable
  9. Amazing Spider-Man 289 Death of Ned Leeds
  10. Amazing Spider-Man 293 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  11. Amazing Spider-Man 294 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  12. Amazing Spider-Man 298 Todd McFarlane begins; 1st Eddie Brock
  13. Amazing Spider-Man 299 1st brief Venom
  14. Amazing Spider-Man 300 First full Venom
  15. Amazing Spider-Man 312 Hobgoblin vs. Green Goblin
  16. Amazing Spider-Man 316 Venom app
  17. Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue
  18. Avengers 257 1st Nebula
  19. Avengers 270 Under Siege
  20. Avengers 271 Under Siege
  21. Avengers 272 Under Siege
  22. Avengers 273 Under Siege
  23. Avengers 274 Under Siege
  24. Avengers 275 Under Siege
  25. Avengers 276 Under Siege
  26. Avengers 277 Under Siege
  27. Captain America 241 Miller; Punisher app
  28. Captain America 332 Cap resigns
  29. Captain America Annual 8 Wolverine
  30. Daredevil 168 First Elektra
  31. Daredevil 169 Second Elektra
  32. Daredevil 181 Death of Elektra
  33. Daredevil 182 Drugs; Punisher
  34. Daredevil 183 Drugs; Punisher
  35. Daredevil 184 Drugs; Punisher
  36. Daredevil 227 Frank Miller; Born Again
  37. Daredevil 228 Frank Miller; Born Again
  38. Daredevil 229 Frank Miller; Born Again
  39. Daredevil 230 Frank Miller; Born Again
  40. Daredevil 231 Frank Miller; Born Again
  41. Daredevil 232 Frank Miller; Born Again
  42. Daredevil 233 Frank Miller; Born Again
  43. Daredevil 254 1st Typhoid Mary
  44. Daredevil 257 vs. Punisher
  45. Fantastic Four 286 X-Factor
  46. Ghost Rider 1
  47. GI Joe 1 First issue
  48. GI Joe 21 1st Storm Shadow; silent issue
  49. GI Joe 25 1st Zartan
  50. GI Joe 26 Origin Snake Eyes
  51. GI Joe 27 Origin Snake Eyes
  52. GI Joe 93 Snake Eyes’ face revealed
  53. Incredible Hulk 271 Second Rocket Racoon
  54. Incredible Hulk 330 McFarlane; Ross dies
  55. Incredible Hulk 331 Grey Hulk
  56. Incredible Hulk 340 Hulk vs. Wolverine
  57. Infinity Gauntlet 1
  58. Infinity Gauntlet 2
  59. Infinity Gauntlet 3
  60. Infinity Gauntlet 4
  61. Infinity Gauntlet 5
  62. Infinity Gauntlet 6
  63. Iron Man 282 Rhodes becomes Iron Man
  64. Iron Man 282 1st War Machine
  65. Longshot 1 1st Longshot
  66. Marvel Team-Up 141 1st black costume
  67. The ‘Nam 1st issue
  68. New Mutants Annual 2 1st Psylocke
  69. Punisher Limited Series 1 1st issue
  70. Punisher Limited Series 2
  71. Punisher Limited Series 3
  72. Punisher Limited Series 4
  73. Punisher Limited Series 5
  74. Secret Wars 1 Copper age begins; cross-overs begin
  75. Secret Wars 8 Black costume
  76. Spectacular Spider-Man 64 First Cloak and Dagger
  77. Spectacular Spider-Man 107 Death of Jean DeWolff
  78. Spectacular Spider-Man 131 Kraven
  79. Spectacular Spider-Man 132 Kraven
  80. Spider-Man vs. Wolverine 1 Death of Ned Leeds
  81. Star Wars 107 Final issue; low distribution
  82. Thor 337 First Beta Ray bill
  83. Thor 411 1st brief New Warriors
  84. Thor 412 1st New Warriors
  85. Uncanny X-Men 129 Kitty Pryde; Emma Frost
  86. Uncanny X-Men 129 Dazzler
  87. Uncanny X-Men 137 Death of Phoenix
  88. Uncanny X-Men 201 1st app Cable as baby
  89. Uncanny X-Men 205 Wolverine by BWSmith
  90. Uncanny X-Men 210 Mutant Massacre
  91. Uncanny X-Men 211 Mutant Massacre
  92. Uncanny X-Men 212 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  93. Uncanny X-Men 213 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  94. Uncanny X-Men 221 1st Mr. Sinister
  95. Uncanny X-Men 222 Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  96. Uncanny X-Men 244 1st Jubilee
  97. Uncanny X-Men 248 1st Jim Lee
  98. Web of Spider-Man 1 Black costume; 1st issue
  99. Web of Spider-Man 18 1st Venom?
  100. Web of Spider-Man 29 Wolverine
  101. Web of Spider-Man 31 Kraven
  102. Web of Spider-Man 32 Kraven
  103. Wolverine 1 1st issue
  104. Wolverine 10 1st battle between Wolverine and Sabretooth
  105. X-Factor 1 1st issue
  106. X-Factor 5 1st brief Apocalypse
  107. X-Factor 6 1st Apocalypse
  108. X-Factor 24 1st Archangel

 

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I agree with the two above me, UXM 141 and 142 should be there. Also, you have UXM 129 on twice, just need to change # 86 to UXM 130 for the first Dazzler.

 

Since FF 286 makes the list for the creation of X-Factor, would Avengers 263 belong on this list for the discovery of Jean Grey at the bottom of the ocean? The progression is Avengers 263 where Jean is discovered, then FF 286 where she wakes up and figures out she's been in a retcon coma, and then X-Factor 1 in which the rest of the O5 find out she's alive and form the new team. Ok, I'm wordy! Just saying if FF 286 belongs, then Avengers 263 does too. :)

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Since FF 286 makes the list for the creation of X-Factor, would Avengers 263 belong on this list for the discovery of Jean Grey at the bottom of the ocean? The progression is Avengers 263 where Jean is discovered, then FF 286 where she wakes up and figures out she's been in a retcon coma, and then X-Factor 1 in which the rest of the O5 find out she's alive and form the new team. Ok, I'm wordy! Just saying if FF 286 belongs, then Avengers 263 does too. :)

 

+ 1 They tie the room together when it comes to X-Factor.

 

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What's so special about UXM 141 and 142?

 

:jokealert:

 

 

 

Reno's 100: The Most Important Marvel Comics 1980-1989

  1. Alpha Flight 1 First issue
  2. Alpha Flight 33 First Lady Deathstrike
  3. Alpha Flight 51 1st Jim Lee
  4. Amazing Spider-Man 200 Origin retold
  5. Amazing Spider-Man 238 First Hobgoblin
  6. Amazing Spider-Man 239 Second Hobgoblin
  7. Amazing Spider-Man 252 1st black costume
  8. Amazing Spider-Man 265 1st Silver Sable
  9. Amazing Spider-Man 289 Death of Ned Leeds
  10. Amazing Spider-Man 293 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  11. Amazing Spider-Man 294 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  12. Amazing Spider-Man 298 Todd McFarlane begins; 1st Eddie Brock
  13. Amazing Spider-Man 299 1st brief Venom
  14. Amazing Spider-Man 300 First full Venom
  15. Amazing Spider-Man 312 Hobgoblin vs. Green Goblin
  16. Amazing Spider-Man 316 Venom app
  17. Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue
  18. Avengers 257 1st Nebula
  19. Avengers 270 Under Siege
  20. Avengers 271 Under Siege
  21. Avengers 272 Under Siege
  22. Avengers 273 Under Siege
  23. Avengers 274 Under Siege
  24. Avengers 275 Under Siege
  25. Avengers 276 Under Siege
  26. Avengers 277 Under Siege
  27. Captain America 241 Miller; Punisher app
  28. Captain America 332 Cap resigns
  29. Captain America Annual 8 Wolverine
  30. Daredevil 168 First Elektra
  31. Daredevil 169 Second Elektra
  32. Daredevil 181 Death of Elektra
  33. Daredevil 182 Drugs; Punisher
  34. Daredevil 183 Drugs; Punisher
  35. Daredevil 184 Drugs; Punisher
  36. Daredevil 227 Frank Miller; Born Again
  37. Daredevil 228 Frank Miller; Born Again
  38. Daredevil 229 Frank Miller; Born Again
  39. Daredevil 230 Frank Miller; Born Again
  40. Daredevil 231 Frank Miller; Born Again
  41. Daredevil 232 Frank Miller; Born Again
  42. Daredevil 233 Frank Miller; Born Again
  43. Daredevil 254 1st Typhoid Mary
  44. Daredevil 257 vs. Punisher
  45. Fantastic Four 286 X-Factor
  46. Ghost Rider 1
  47. GI Joe 1 First issue
  48. GI Joe 21 1st Storm Shadow; silent issue
  49. GI Joe 25 1st Zartan
  50. GI Joe 26 Origin Snake Eyes
  51. GI Joe 27 Origin Snake Eyes
  52. GI Joe 93 Snake Eyes’ face revealed
  53. Incredible Hulk 271 Second Rocket Racoon
  54. Incredible Hulk 330 McFarlane; Ross dies
  55. Incredible Hulk 331 Grey Hulk
  56. Incredible Hulk 340 Hulk vs. Wolverine
  57. Iron Man 169 Rhodes becomes Iron Man
  58. Longshot 1 1st Longshot
  59. Marvel Team-Up 141 1st black costume
  60. The ‘Nam 1st issue
  61. New Mutants Annual 2 1st Psylocke
  62. Punisher Limited Series 1 1st issue
  63. Punisher Limited Series 2
  64. Punisher Limited Series 3
  65. Punisher Limited Series 4
  66. Punisher Limited Series 5
  67. Secret Wars 1 Copper age begins; cross-overs begin
  68. Secret Wars 8 Black costume
  69. Spectacular Spider-Man 64 First Cloak and Dagger
  70. Spectacular Spider-Man 107 Death of Jean DeWolff
  71. Spectacular Spider-Man 131 Kraven
  72. Spectacular Spider-Man 132 Kraven
  73. Spider-Man vs. Wolverine 1 Death of Ned Leeds
  74. Star Wars 107 Final issue; low distribution
  75. Thor 337 First Beta Ray bill
  76. Thor 411 1st brief New Warriors
  77. Thor 412 1st New Warriors
  78. Uncanny X-Men 129 Kitty Pryde; Emma Frost
  79. Uncanny X-Men 130 Dazzler
  80. Uncanny X-Men 137 Death of Phoenix
  81. Uncanny X-Men 141 Days of Future Past
  82. Uncanny X-Men 142 Days of Future Past
  83. Uncanny X-Men 201 1st app Cable as baby
  84. Uncanny X-Men 205 Wolverine by BWSmith
  85. Uncanny X-Men 210 Mutant Massacre
  86. Uncanny X-Men 211 Mutant Massacre
  87. Uncanny X-Men 212 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  88. Uncanny X-Men 213 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  89. Uncanny X-Men 221 1st Mr. Sinister
  90. Uncanny X-Men 222 Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  91. Uncanny X-Men 244 1st Jubilee
  92. Uncanny X-Men 248 1st Jim Lee
  93. Web of Spider-Man 1 Black costume; 1st issue
  94. Web of Spider-Man 18 1st Venom?
  95. Web of Spider-Man 29 Wolverine
  96. Web of Spider-Man 31 Kraven
  97. Web of Spider-Man 32 Kraven
  98. Wolverine (Limited Series) 1
  99. Wolverine 1 1st issue
  100. Wolverine 10 1st battle between Wolverine and Sabretooth
  101. X-Factor 1 1st issue
  102. X-Factor 5 1st brief Apocalypse
  103. X-Factor 6 1st Apocalypse
  104. X-Factor 24 1st Archangel

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So I'm not even sure FF 286 deserves to be on here. Is that a major enough story? It certainly isn't "key" enough.

 

To get this down to 100, it'd be a lot easier to make it Marvel Universe only and rid the list of GI Joe, Star Wars, and 'Nam. But would any Marvel 80s list be complete without those?

 

 

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The first IM 282 should've been 169. Fixed now.

 

I'm torn on Spectacular Spider-Man with the black costume. It's, what, the third appearance? Feels like a "whatever" kinda moment.

 

I took off Transformers, but now that I think about it, I can't remember why. Probably just to make room, which I need to do again, obviously, to get it down to 100.

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