PGM ASM 17 -- Now with GRADER NOTES

[timfinz]

Wow! Unfortunately without the grades notes we won't be able to comment but I was sure that this copy was at least 6.5. Hope you get the graders and notes and we can find out what the hell is going on?

[Wilson3d]

I feel like the front cover looks so good it has a shot at the 7.0.

 

I didn't realize the grade was already back. If you decide to get the notes, I would love to see what they list. I submitted an X-Men 35 SS a while ago and we all thought it was at least an 8.0 on here. Turned out it got a 6.0 (if my memory is correct). I got the graders notes and they mentioned the stain on the back of the book. I had never noticed it in hand and no one noticed on the scan but once I looked again after reading the notes - there it was.

[Red84]

I'm going to get the notes so I can avoid this in the future.

[Red84]

I had an ASM 10 which I thought was at least a 6 come back a 4.5 as the other part of this order. Maybe I caught the graders on a bad day.

[Phill the Governor]

Is that a readers crease on the back of the book near the spine?

 

 

[seredynskib]

Is that a readers crease on the back of the book near the spine?

 

 

Good point! That might have been what dropped this book to a 5.5

[Red84]

Is that a readers crease on the back of the book near the spine?

 

 

Good point! That might have been what dropped this book to a 5.5

 

that looks like dirt more than a crease to me.

 

But if that it is a crease, and that's what brought the grade down from a 6.5/7.0 than that is absurd. At some point the visual appeal of the book needs to be taken into consideration. (But then again, I think that's what happened when my GSXM came back an 8.5. The cover on that book is bone white and looks great which made up for the bad corners)

 

I recently bought a 6.0 of a key and when it arrived it was badly tanned and ugly looking. It was supposed to replace a higher grade copy of mine, but it was so unpleasant to look at that I'm trying to flip it. I would give a book like that a 4.0 and this ASM 17 a 6.5/7.0

 

 

[Red84]

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[jsilverjanet]

Back cover does look like a crease. Also I was under the impression that tanning like the interior covers have brings down the grade significantly, but could be wrong.

 

[timfinz]

Hi Josh,

Had another long look at this book and..... there is a crease on the back cover! Have a look at the bottom about 2" in and it runs at about a 70 degree angle up through the green box into the dialogue and it looks as though it fades as it goes through "b" on below and the "t" in too (the red lettering) in the middle area of the book closer to the spine.

 

The crease is very faint but it is there and that I can assure you is the reason for your 5.5!

[Red84]

Hmm

Do you think that can be pressed out?

It still might not make sense to press given the value increase wouldn't be huge.

[Phill the Governor]

Is that a readers crease on the back of the book near the spine?

 

 

Good point! That might have been what dropped this book to a 5.5

 

that looks like dirt more than a crease to me.

 

But if that it is a crease, and that's what brought the grade down from a 6.5/7.0 than that is absurd. At some point the visual appeal of the book needs to be taken into consideration.

 

Think this would be a good example of a book presenting better than the "technical" grade. Nothing wrong with that, especially if it was free! (thumbs u

 

 

[Red84]

Here's the Grader Notes. I personally find them lacking. I expected a lot more information.

 

[David-Lance Roten]

Definitely presents better than the numerical grade IMO.

[incoflip]

 

 

 

Wow....I would have thought the notes would have been a bit more in depth myself. No mention of the crease. Nothing that says "This one thing is what caused the drop 1 point".

[Conan_Aficionado]

Does CGC no longer us the Tan page quality designation, or is that for a different color paper other than regular comic paper pulp.

[The-Collector]

Does CGC no longer us the Tan page quality designation, or is that for a different color paper other than regular comic paper pulp.

 

They still use it. Cover tanning does not count towards PQ though.

[timfinz]

Hmm

Do you think that can be pressed out?

It still might not make sense to press given the value increase wouldn't be huge.

As far as I can tell that crease is pressable, but I would get Joey's opinion on it for sure. What surprised me was the lack of information provided in the graders notes. There most definitely should have been a mention of the crease(s). I would get Joey to look at it and maybe resubmit. Just hope it doesn't come back "trimmed"

[Red84]

With the lack of info on the notes I have no idea if they treated that tanning like a sub crease and dropped it to 6 off the bat.

[Chadwick]

Here's the Grader Notes. I personally find them lacking. I expected a lot more information.

 

 

 

 

Wow that is brutal. I would not be happy.