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What is your Favorite Art,Drawing or story by Rob Liefeld?
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slym2none

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I am pretty sure most posts are about Rob Liefeld, the artist in question. I am not sure what your point in bringing up a completely different artist is.

 

I am sure if someone started a "What is your Favorite Art, Drawing, or Story by Art Adams?" and people starting critiquing his art on both sides, no one would bring up Rob Liefeld.

 

:shrug:

 

-slym

 

Have you read the thread? I've repeatedly pointed out that it's a topic meant to discuss YOUR FAVORITE LIEFELD ART.

 

It's NOT a thread about "rant about Liefeld" or even "let's discuss the merits of Liefeld's art" or anything that might invite the kind of negativity being expressed. There are plenty of other forums already for that:)

 

Instead, for those of us who actually like Liefeld and wanted to discuss it, we've had the eternal peanut gallery chiming in with all of their negative comments that have nothing to do with favorite art.

 

So since the entire thread has devolved into people nitpicking Liefeld's every line, it's entirely fair game to point out other artists who have similar weaknesses that are conveniently ignored or overlooked and held to a different standard.

 

If you want to step in and moderate a forum do it when things first start to go off the rails, not when the moss has already grown over the bodies.

 

When people don't have a favourite, but do discuss why they don't like the artist in question, then that's fair game. Again, were a thread like this to be started about Art Adams, I imagine there would be some people pointing out his faults/flaws. Just not as many as Liefeld, because as shown, a lot of people don't care for him at all.

 

:)

 

 

 

-slym

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I am pretty sure most posts are about Rob Liefeld, the artist in question. I am not sure what your point in bringing up a completely different artist is.

 

I am sure if someone started a "What is your Favorite Art, Drawing, or Story by Art Adams?" and people starting critiquing his art on both sides, no one would bring up Rob Liefeld.

 

:shrug:

 

-slym

 

Have you read the thread? I've repeatedly pointed out that it's a topic meant to discuss YOUR FAVORITE LIEFELD ART.

 

It's NOT a thread about "rant about Liefeld" or even "let's discuss the merits of Liefeld's art" or anything that might invite the kind of negativity being expressed. There are plenty of other forums already for that:)

 

Instead, for those of us who actually like Liefeld and wanted to discuss it, we've had the eternal peanut gallery chiming in with all of their negative comments that have nothing to do with favorite art.

 

So since the entire thread has devolved into people nitpicking Liefeld's every line, it's entirely fair game to point out other artists who have similar weaknesses that are conveniently ignored or overlooked and held to a different standard.

 

If you want to step in and moderate a forum do it when things first start to go off the rails, not when the moss has already grown over the bodies.

BAZINGA!

 

You watch far too much BBT.

 

That's not a compliment.

 

 

 

-slym

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I am pretty sure most posts are about Rob Liefeld, the artist in question. I am not sure what your point in bringing up a completely different artist is.

 

I am sure if someone started a "What is your Favorite Art, Drawing, or Story by Art Adams?" and people starting critiquing his art on both sides, no one would bring up Rob Liefeld.

 

:shrug:

 

-slym

 

Have you read the thread? I've repeatedly pointed out that it's a topic meant to discuss YOUR FAVORITE LIEFELD ART.

 

It's NOT a thread about "rant about Liefeld" or even "let's discuss the merits of Liefeld's art" or anything that might invite the kind of negativity being expressed. There are plenty of other forums already for that:)

 

Instead, for those of us who actually like Liefeld and wanted to discuss it, we've had the eternal peanut gallery chiming in with all of their negative comments that have nothing to do with favorite art.

 

So since the entire thread has devolved into people nitpicking Liefeld's every line, it's entirely fair game to point out other artists who have similar weaknesses that are conveniently ignored or overlooked and held to a different standard.

 

If you want to step in and moderate a forum do it when things first start to go off the rails, not when the moss has already grown over the bodies.

BAZINGA!

 

You watch far too much BBT.

 

That's not a compliment.

 

 

 

-slym

I have never seen a single episode

You know what they say about assuming.....

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What you cannot grasp...and is the foundation of this entire debate...is that Art Adams understands the basic principles of art.

 

Rob Liefeld does not.

 

There is no "double standard." For there to be a double standard, Liefeld would have to understand and apply the basic principles of art. He does not.

 

Do you even realize you're making blanket statements based on your own opinion?

 

What Liefeld knows and does not know we have no clue on. Assumptions maybe, but not knowledge.

 

All we can see is what he chooses to put on paper.

 

And every indication is that he's lazy and cuts corners. He could use an eraser to fix mistakes but chooses not to. I suspect it's more likely he doesn't care. But that's honestly all we really can discern. Anything more is just assumptions and guesswork.

 

The goal of comics is to produce comics. He has a family to support. If his page rate is $X and he can produce 15 perfect pages or 30 slacked pages in the same month, who are we to argue that? Many won't agree, but that's his business if he wants to put that kind of work out there.

 

And really....you really need to stop trying to put "words" in people's "mouths", and then arguing against those positions (hopefully, you've learned what a strawman argument is by now.)

 

Words in people's mouths? Such as arguing that you know the inner workings of someone's mind? The full details of what they do and don't know about art?

 

It's what children do to deflect blame to their siblings.

 

Oh yeah? And you smell like poo.

 

None of Liefeld's work can be excused. None of it. The best pieces you've shown...that you've put up as the BEST examples of Liefeld's work...are messes.

 

You've repeated YOUR opinion many times now. Are you expecting if you keep beating the dead horse a lamp will pop out? C'mon, move on man. You don't like Liefeld. Power to you. I do.

 

Just because you can't see anything in the art doesn't mean others can't.

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I have been referred to as Sheldon both at home by visitors and at work by co-workers. I take it as a compliment. lol

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Even worse - you are far too much like Sheldon, then.

 

 

 

-slym

Plan A didn't work go to plan B? :baiting:

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Who would use the term Bazinga that does not watch BBT? (shrug)

I heard someone else say it and thought it was funny. Only later someone told me where it came from.

I used to just use 'ZING!'

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When people don't have a favourite, but do discuss why they don't like the artist in question, then that's fair game. Again, were a thread like this to be started about Art Adams, I imagine there would be some people pointing out his faults/flaws. Just not as many as Liefeld, because as shown, a lot of people don't care for him at all.

 

:)

-slym

 

So by this logic nothing is off limits if the topic includes the artist's name? The topic doesn't really serve a purpose then other than being tags to search by? I've added Art Adams name to this response. We can now post on him, right?

 

I'm sorry, but the point of a thread is to discuss a topic. If there were 10 different threads about Liefeld going on at once and they all immediately devolved into this kind of spectacle you're saying that would be fine? C'mon.

 

Based on what you're saying, it sounds like if there was a thread started about "Best John Byrne X-Men Issue" it would be completely acceptable for me to talk about how he was an individual_without_enough_empathy to me when I tried to get his autograph at the urinal, right? His name is in the title so that's acceptable?

 

 

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When people don't have a favourite, but do discuss why they don't like the artist in question, then that's fair game. Again, were a thread like this to be started about Art Adams, I imagine there would be some people pointing out his faults/flaws. Just not as many as Liefeld, because as shown, a lot of people don't care for him at all.

 

:)

-slym

 

So by this logic nothing is off limits if the topic includes the artist's name? The topic doesn't really serve a purpose then other than being tags to search by? I've added Art Adams name to this response. We can now post on him, right?

 

I'm sorry, but the point of a thread is to discuss a topic. If there were 10 different threads about Liefeld going on at once and they all immediately devolved into this kind of spectacle you're saying that would be fine? C'mon.

 

Based on what you're saying, it sounds like if there was a thread started about "Best John Byrne X-Men Issue" it would be completely acceptable for me to talk about how he was an individual_without_enough_empathy to me when I tried to get his autograph at the urinal, right? His name is in the title so that's acceptable?

 

That's pretty much the way things go around here-I have yet to see a thread stay 'on topic'...

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RabidFerret

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Art Adams :cloud9:

 

Someone should start a thread on him...

 

:baiting:

-slym (would bet on how long it took for someone to mention Liefeld, just to be a ) :lol:

 

I love Adams work. It's great stuff. And I honestly see no connection to Liefeld that could realistically be made.

 

I'm not going to jump on another thread to be a ...except maybe for RMA...he's growing on me.

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When people don't have a favourite, but do discuss why they don't like the artist in question, then that's fair game. Again, were a thread like this to be started about Art Adams, I imagine there would be some people pointing out his faults/flaws. Just not as many as Liefeld, because as shown, a lot of people don't care for him at all.

 

:)

-slym

 

So by this logic nothing is off limits if the topic includes the artist's name? The topic doesn't really serve a purpose then other than being tags to search by? I've added Art Adams name to this response. We can now post on him, right?

 

I'm sorry, but the point of a thread is to discuss a topic. If there were 10 different threads about Liefeld going on at once and they all immediately devolved into this kind of spectacle you're saying that would be fine? C'mon.

 

Based on what you're saying, it sounds like if there was a thread started about "Best John Byrne X-Men Issue" it would be completely acceptable for me to talk about how he was an individual_without_enough_empathy to me when I tried to get his autograph at the urinal, right? His name is in the title so that's acceptable?

 

 

You haven't been around here very long, have you?

 

(:

 

 

 

-slym

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Art Adams :cloud9:

 

Someone should start a thread on him...

 

:baiting:

-slym (would bet on how long it took for someone to mention Liefeld, just to be a ) :lol:

 

I love Adams work. It's great stuff. And I honestly see no connection to Liefeld that could realistically be made.

 

I'm not going to jump on another thread to be a ...except maybe for RMA...he's growing on me.

 

I never mentioned you. You think rather highly of yourself.

 

:lol:

 

 

 

-slym

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