theCapraAegagrus Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Grails said: I’m not a fan either but it’s actually a great idea. Bad people say good things, sometimes. Let's just hope that Disney doesn't go on her spelling. ▫️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Typing on a phone keyboard if fun. 5 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: That insufferable hag can't even spell Wakanda... I'm surprised. The intent and messaging most probably landed at Disney. Which I think will be addressed as part of the Disneyland Marvel attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Bosco685 said: Typing on a phone keyboard if fun. The intent and messaging most probably landed at Disney. Which I think will be addressed as part of the Disneyland Marvel attraction. I look forward to her taking credit for the idea, when they probably already had something in mind. An Ancestral Plane room would be a sight to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I hear a lot of people saying the franchise should center around Shuri but I just do not see that as an interesting movie. She is a fine supporting character but putting that actress in the Black Panther costume and doing a whole movie would be a mistake in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, 1Cool said: I hear a lot of people saying the franchise should center around Shuri but I just do not see that as an interesting movie. She is a fine supporting character but putting that actress in the Black Panther costume and doing a whole movie would be a mistake in my mind. Can there be a proper Black Panther without the heart-shaped herb? Killmonger burned it all. It would be another downgrade. We're already getting a downgraded Captain America (Falcon with no super serum). I don't think they can do a Black Panther sequel without Boseman - unless they recast T'Challa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Because of the Marvel character rights owned by Universal Studios Orlando, Disney World in Orlando can’t feature Avengers, X-Men, or Fantastic Four characters in costume (basically East of the Mississippi River). But Disney can do everything else which allows them to build a Guardians of the Galaxy (not Avengers) ride at Epcot. This loophole would allow a Wakanda Land at say Animal Kingdom that could feature T’Challa not in Panther uniform, Shuri, and all the Royal Clan. That would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1Cool said: I hear a lot of people saying the franchise should center around Shuri but I just do not see that as an interesting movie. She is a fine supporting character but putting that actress in the Black Panther costume and doing a whole movie would be a mistake in my mind. Been thinking about this a bit. If they focus on Wakanda as a whole (think Tales of Asgard), there are tons of excellent supporting characters that will make for good entertainment, but I do think there needs to be a powerful lead, if they are going to do multiple movies. 1Cool and ▫️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Can there be a proper Black Panther without the heart-shaped herb? Killmonger burned it all. They could take care of that fairly easily by showing them drilling into a new part of the Vibranium hoard and discovering a chamber with more HSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, 1Cool said: I hear a lot of people saying the franchise should center around Shuri but I just do not see that as an interesting movie. She is a fine supporting character but putting that actress in the Black Panther costume and doing a whole movie would be a mistake in my mind. After all that involvement of Wakanda across Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War and Endgame I just can't see the MCU closing the books on this part of the franchise due to this horrible situation. The tricky piece will be how the MCU eases people into the change in focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, seanfingh said: They could take care of that fairly easily by showing them drilling into a new part of the Vibranium hoard and discovering a chamber with more HSH. With the technology we've seen so far, they could also go the route of reverse-engineering the substance that enhances one's abilities based on samples of T'Challa's blood. I'm sure there are a few ways they could get around the crop-burning scene in the first movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Turtle said: With the technology we've seen so far, they could also go the route of reverse-engineering the substance that enhances one's abilities based on samples of T'Challa's blood. I'm sure there are a few ways they could get around the crop-burning scene in the first movie. I would have thought with the tech we've seen so far that they would have guarded the 2nd most powerful substance in Wakanda with more than some old ladies and kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bosco685 said: After all that involvement of Wakanda across Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War and Endgame I just can't see the MCU closing the books on this part of the franchise due to this horrible situation. The tricky piece will be how the MCU eases people into the change in focus. Oh - I think they will definetly make another Black Panther movie but Shuri is not who i would pick to continue the franchise. It will be interesting to see where they go with it during this heartbreaking situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Found this sad even though it’s a tribute to Denzel. It’s a great story and I have to wonder if Denzel knew because he was on the verge of tears listening to Chadwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, 1Cool said: Oh - I think they will definetly make another Black Panther movie but Shuri is not who i would pick to continue the franchise. It will be interesting to see where they go with it during this heartbreaking situation. Ryan Coogler's Black Panther, to me, was an ensemble movie that spread its focus out over several characters, the Royal Family, really. I think if the sequel takes this same approach, which I think it will have to by necessity now, then I think a transition of the Black Panther mantle to Shuri would be fine. The heart-shaped herb's return could be explained away as easily as there being a secret garden only Zuri knew about or something. No need to waste precious film time on that. There must be a Black Panther sequel, not only to honor the King's memory and legacy, but because Wakanda is going to have to be an important source of technology for the Avengers and Earth's defense going forward in the MCU. Keys_Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsLegion Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I don't think it's Shuri that picks up the mantle of Black Panther, for the fact that I think they want to use her in her own right. Doubling up the BP role makes that more difficult. I know there was a stent where she was BP for a time, but I think there's a case for the MCU where they turn it over to Nakia, his GF. That would make more sense in the context of the movie, as she honors his memory and take up his cause, and her character in the movie was advocating for people outside of Wakanda, and she was going to be in charge of outreach, not unlike the role BP had as a teacher when he was living in NY for a time when he first joined the Avengers. Otherwise Nakia's character really has no emotional place in the story if they intend to keep her in the franchise. Just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 hours ago, seanfingh said: They could take care of that fairly easily by showing them drilling into a new part of the Vibranium hoard and discovering a chamber with more HSH. I guess. I'm not usually a fan of backtracking, though, when it comes to storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 hours ago, seanfingh said: I would have thought with the tech we've seen so far that they would have guarded the 2nd most powerful substance in Wakanda with more than some old ladies and kids. I think it was a play on modern humanity. Despite all of our technology and information, we still hold onto certain traditions. Still laugh-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Man_Adam Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 There’s a lot of options they could take - Shuri, W’ Kabi , M’ Baku - I think they tie it into the story and he becomes an example of how real life carries morals through comics - similarly to what they did with the comic version of Captain Marvel with his Cancer diagnosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, MYNAMEISLEGION said: I don't think it's Shuri that picks up the mantle of Black Panther, for the fact that I think they want to use her in her own right. Doubling up the BP role makes that more difficult. I know there was a stent where she was BP for a time, but I think there's a case for the MCU where they turn it over to Nakia, his GF. That would make more sense in the context of the movie, as she honors his memory and take up his cause, and her character in the movie was advocating for people outside of Wakanda, and she was going to be in charge of outreach, not unlike the role BP had as a teacher when he was living in NY for a time when he first joined the Avengers. Otherwise Nakia's character really has no emotional place in the story if they intend to keep her in the franchise. Just an idea. It's about the mantle of ruler, though, not just the Panther. Next in line is Shuri. Maybe we'll also learn T'Challa and a possible Queen Nakia had a T'Challa Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsLegion Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 reading the latest comic news sites- it seems Marvel was completely unaware and unprepared for this- Kevin F must really be conflicted with the tragedy of the loss but also the extreme headache this will cause - Black Panther was one of the next rock stars post Iron Man & Cap. This isn't as simple as recasting Hulk or James Rhodes, they both occurred when the MCU was still small. M'Baku would be an interesting choice, but the actor isn't that strong- he couldn't carry a movie. This is nearly as bad as if they had lost RDG or Evans after Avengers 1. Other dominos have fallen. But maybe not. The current Roadmap for the MCU seems much broader with more self-contained characters and stories. At least for this phase. alexgross.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
