superman ashcan

[Ravencomics]

this is a very rare book 3 known copies is there anything rarer of this kind of importance! I do not think so.

 

raven

[Ravencomics]

here is an attachment

[Ravencomics]

can someone tell me how to post pictures right in post area without going to attachment when people are reading the post.

[aardvark88]

Everyone loves that Superman ashcan cover. I believe the interior includes a few pages from Action # 8.

 

If u click the UBB code Image icon first, then paste your cover image jpg linked to your own website, the pic should show up in your post. Good luck.

[Ravencomics]

it contains superman story i was trying to scan the whole book to post it but all i have is a scanner not my own website.

 

raven

[Dr_Neff]

The action 1 ashcan is a tough one too sorry no scan available, Does Gary Colabuono have scans of his Ashcan set?? or did HCA ever offer a complete set?

[Ravencomics]

here is scan of action comics ashcan

 

raven

[rjpb]

Copy the URL from your attachment and then click on Edit in your post.Then click on the pink Image under Instant UBB code. Paste in the URL you've copied, taking care not to repeat http:// and then click ok.

 

[Moondog]

There are only 2 Superman ashcans known to exist. The 9.0 has changed hands a few times (I believe the last time was a year or so back...). I still own the 7.5.

 

There are 3 know Action ashcans. DC has one in their archives. Steve Fishler sold the copy that ended up being a 9.0 many years ago (I believe that copy surfaced a few years back). I own the 9.2.

[Ravencomics]

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[Moondog]

Dave:

 

There are 3 known Action ashcans and 2 Superman ashcans.

 

Action: 9.2, 9.0 and a raw copy in the DC archives

Superman: 9.0 and 7.5

 

--Gary

[Silver Surfer]

What is the Gerber rating on these, or does it apply to ashcan's?

[Forbush-Man]

What is the Gerber rating on these, or does it apply to ashcan's?

 

It would be a SI 10 (less than 5 copies),...if you were to apply it.

[Silver Surfer]

What is the Gerber rating on these, or does it apply to ashcan's?

 

It would be a SI 10 (less than 5 copies),...if you were to apply it.

 

Now, next stupid question. Is there any recent detailed Gerber data on the scarcity of books as I find it facinating reading.

[Harvey Dude]

There are only 2 Superman ashcans known to exist. The 9.0 has changed hands a few times (I believe the last time was a year or so back...). I still own the 7.5.

 

Hi Moondog. You state there are two known copies of the Superman #1 ashcan but ravencomics has an attachment of a Supeman #1 ashcan that is not the 9.0. the 9.0 sold at Heritage (April 04) for $34,500. When I pm'd ravencomics and inquired about his book, he noted that his copy was a vf. Can there be a known third copy out there? Also, how can you tell an original ashcan? I would think the book would be easy to counterfeit.

[Rob]

What is the Gerber rating on these, or does it apply to ashcan's?

 

It would be a SI 10 (less than 5 copies),...if you were to apply it.

 

Now, next stupid question. Is there any recent detailed Gerber data on the scarcity of books as I find it facinating reading.

 

Me too. I find anything about comics is fascinating reading. Overstreet, Grading Guide, or even Wizard are with me in the john.

[Moondog]

Harvey:

 

Raven's attachment is the 9.0 before it was slabbed (I would know the bottom of that book and the staples blindfolded). Images of this book ran in Comic Book Marketplace and Overstreet in previous years. I also had a pamphlet printed about this book with this image on the cover.

 

It's possible additional copies may exist, but not probable. Library of Congress, National Archives, or some such place in Washington could have a copy (I know some ashcans made it there as part of the trademark registration process). I've advertised for over 20 years to buy "original DC ashcans" and have had no luck (but I did find a few non-DC's this way!).

 

--Gary

[Moondog]

As for counterfeiting, it would be extremely difficult. One would need to have an ashcan cover and "marry" it to a coverless book. The only ashcan covers that survive are a Double Action and some lesser titles (which I own), and the velox paper on which they're printed looks and feels old. Any newly created ashcan would have to pass the "test of time" look and feel.

 

Maybe not impossible, but certainly extremely difficult. I know the boys at CGC would spot it a mile away.

[Harvey Dude]

Thanks for the information. I only saw two ashcans in person and was impressed with the historical significance of the items.

[Dr_Neff]

Gary,

 

Can your reprint the comics b/c the copyright is over 50 years old or would they be perpetual?

 

Maybe you should get together with DC and have an Ashcan reprint year in which you do a special edition ala millenium ashcan every month, Action,Superman, Wonder Woman, Thrill, Whiz (Golden Arrow), Whiz (Captain Marvel) ,Flash(capt. Marvel), Flash (adventure comics), Double Action, Detective Comics, Funny Stuff, Reel Screen Comics and whatever other ones I can't remember. Not the 1/2 size ones though cause I hate them!

 

 

Or suggest DC sell them as a press proof portfolio set maybe you can get with Russ Cochran.

 

Or please consider doing absolutely nothing 'cause you are the man! what a great collection dude!