RedRaven Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, fantastic_four said: The people who make those predictions haven't been studying the history of the heroic myth throughout the entire recorded history of human civilization. The question isn't when the superhero wave will end; the question is what the next form of the heroic myth will be. It CAN'T disappear, it can only be replaced. And the people predicting the death of superheroes probably won't like whatever heroic narrative form eventually replaces it, either, so they can just suck it. Edited May 15, 2018 by RedRaven Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awe4one Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 OK...we’re far enough in the Avengers Infinity War run that I’m going to give my theory on what happened. Stop here if you don’t want the movie spoiled.... When Iron Man and Spider-Man was trying to grab the Gauntlet off Thanos and Mantis couldn’t put Thanos to sleep, Starlord acted like a complete jerk trying to interrogate Thanos about the whereabouts of Gamora. My take? Starlord was trying to distract Thanos while Stark replaced one of the stones, probably the Reality Stone, with a fake one; generated by Stark’s new nanotechnology armor. Thanos bailed quickly when Strange too easily just gave up his stone and immediately got in a fight to get Vision’s stone. When he got what he thought was the last stone, Thor went ballistic on him before Thanos snapped his fingers and half the universe died. Thanos then immediately bailed out. Thanos never realized he still didn’t have all the stones when he did the deed and Dr Strange conjured up a massive spell, with the help of the Reality stone, to make it look like all the heroes died. Thanos was tricked and all those who “died” are probably sitting in one of Strange’s dimensions before he brings them back. That’s what I think happened... Jim jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 47 minutes ago, awe4one said: OK...we’re far enough in the Avengers Infinity War run that I’m going to give my theory on what happened. Stop here if you don’t want the movie spoiled.... When Iron Man and Spider-Man was trying to grab the Gauntlet off Thanos and Mantis couldn’t put Thanos to sleep, Starlord acted like a complete jerk trying to interrogate Thanos about the whereabouts of Gamora. My take? Starlord was trying to distract Thanos while Stark replaced one of the stones, probably the Reality Stone, with a fake one; generated by Stark’s new nanotechnology armor. Thanos bailed quickly when Strange too easily just gave up his stone and immediately got in a fight to get Vision’s stone. When he got what he thought was the last stone, Thor went ballistic on him before Thanos snapped his fingers and half the universe died. Thanos then immediately bailed out. Thanos never realized he still didn’t have all the stones when he did the deed and Dr Strange conjured up a massive spell, with the help of the Reality stone, to make it look like all the heroes died. Thanos was tricked and all those who “died” are probably sitting in one of Strange’s dimensions before he brings them back. That’s what I think happened... Jim Very reasonable assumption with all that power coming from the stones and how they could be used in this situation. But then if it turns out in Avengers 4 Thanos is contained and the real damage didn't happen, wouldn't that make for a less exciting movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bosco685 said: Very reasonable assumption with all that power coming from the stones and how they could be used in this situation. But then if it turns out in Avengers 4 Thanos is contained and the real damage didn't happen, wouldn't that make for a less exciting movie? To me yes.. Larryw7 and Bosco685 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awe4one Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bosco685 said: Very reasonable assumption with all that power coming from the stones and how they could be used in this situation. But then if it turns out in Avengers 4 Thanos is contained and the real damage didn't happen, wouldn't that make for a less exciting movie? No...they still have to get the Gauntlet. And dispose of it. The danger is still there once Thanos realizes he's been tricked. Edited May 15, 2018 by awe4one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, awe4one said: No...they still have to get the Gauntlet. And dispose of it. The danger is still there once Thanos realizes he's been tricked. I wonder if they could even NOT reveal the real situation for a portion of Avengers 4 until we the audience finds out we have been seeing everything from Thanos's influenced viewpoint, and then all of a sudden reality sets in when the heroes are trying to remove the Gauntlet. Kind of like an FX Legion-type trippy situation. That would be quite wild. Especially if he goes into a rage and really starts beating down heroes when he comes out of his fog and loses it over not achieving his original goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chezmtghut Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Disney should take a play from the Wachowski's handbook & release Infinity Gauntlet this Christmas since there is no Star Wars movie. Then it could even rival Avatars box office. The Matrix is the only franchise I can recall putting out 2 films in one year & fans are hungry for Avengers 4. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, chezmtghut said: Disney should take a play from the Wachowski's handbook & release Infinity Gauntlet this Christmas since there is no Star Wars movie. Then it could even rival Avatars box office. The Matrix is the only franchise I can recall putting out 2 films in one year & fans are hungry for Avengers 4. +1 I really hope they do this. Are they done filming? If yes, and the CGI can be done in time, do it. That would be a huge movie. Josh Brolin would love the Christmas gift as well after presumably raking it with his royalty from Infinity War and Deadpool 2 in the first half of the year. I am curious to see whether the sequel will top this film. I think it should, and that would mean a second $2B+ superhero movie which would be awesome. Edited May 16, 2018 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, chezmtghut said: Disney should take a play from the Wachowski's handbook & release Infinity Gauntlet this Christmas since there is no Star Wars movie. Then it could even rival Avatars box office. The Matrix is the only franchise I can recall putting out 2 films in one year & fans are hungry for Avengers 4. they wouldn't want to release it on Dec 21 and compete with Bumblebee and Alita- ooooh, scary #aquaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 21 hours ago, RedRaven said: 23 hours ago, fantastic_four said: The people who make those predictions haven't been studying the history of the heroic myth throughout the entire recorded history of human civilization. The question isn't when the superhero wave will end; the question is what the next form of the heroic myth will be. It CAN'T disappear, it can only be replaced. And the people predicting the death of superheroes probably won't like whatever heroic narrative form eventually replaces it, either, so they can just suck it. I'm unfamiliar with that book, but yes, exactly. Interesting to see how many famous storytellers have been inspired by it. I reverse-engineered the idea from the way that works like the Illiad, Odyssey, or Beowulf are assigned reading in school. The quality of the writing of any of those isn't spectacular, but that's not the point, it's the universality of the archetypes from those stories along with the continuing popularity of the characters that makes them well worth making sure that kids are familiar with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 6:18 PM, chezmtghut said: Disney should take a play from the Wachowski's handbook & release Infinity Gauntlet this Christmas since there is no Star Wars movie. Then it could even rival Avatars box office. The Matrix is the only franchise I can recall putting out 2 films in one year & fans are hungry for Avengers 4. Disney won't release two Avengers movies in the same year as it would most likely affect their revenue forecasts. It would provide a YoY increase in revenue which would be great for shareholders when the Q4 and FY'18 numbers are released, but without a tentpole movie (or two or three) of similar scale in 2019, the resulting year would see a YoY decrease in revenue which would negatively affect share price. That or Disney would have to reduce guidance which also would negatively affect share price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 For those confused by Infinity War The irresolvable moral dilemma at the heart of Avengers: Infinity War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I hope IW kick TLJ's butt at the domestic box office. Bosco685 and Azkaban 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) considering he works for a financial publication, Mendelson is terrible with numbers (as shown below); China will be around $45MM, Other Int'l $40MM and $30MM US, so around $1.82BB by end of weekend The film earned $343 million worldwide last weekend, with $200m of that from China. A drop of, offhand, 45% (it fell by 48% last weekend sans China) gives it a global weekend of around $178m worldwide this weekend. That would push its domestic total to around $598m, its overseas total to $1.278b and its global cume to a boffo $1.88b. That’s something of a spitball guess, but if it holds the line accordingly then it’ll pass $2b worldwide over Memorial Day. If it crashes hard this weekend in China and elsewhere, it’s a slightly different story. But at worst it’s in danger of making “most of the money” as opposed to “all the money.” Edited May 19, 2018 by paperheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paperheart Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 8:29 AM, paperheart said: $675MM-700MM US, $950-$1BB Int'l, $300-350MM China $675MM US, $975MM Int'l, $350MM China - $2BB a toss up, going to need a big Memorial Day weekend in US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1Cool Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Wow - I thought 2B was a given the way this movie took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Adam Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Finally saw Infinity War this weekend and thought it was amazing! Thanos and his crew (and his gauntlet) were badass. Stormbreaker! Scarlet Witch As others have mentioned, this movie ranks right near the top of all Marvel movies made to date. Ten out of Ten for me. jason4 and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...