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Giant Size X-Men #1 for investment?
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I stated my frustration was about more than this one post.

 

More importantly I addressed what I think is a growing issue on the site where some more experienced members attempt to bully others.

 

CG is clearly an articulate and well conditioned debater, but he is also a bully (which he will clearly disagree with). A lack of strikes just means he is smart enough flirt with a line without crossing it.

 

People can agree or disagree with me and it really doesn't matter, this is my opinion of the nature of his posts based on what I have seen over a number of months and direct/indirect interactions.

 

:shrug:

 

 

 

FYI - I wouldn't buy GSX 1 for investment purposes.

 

If I was a real bully I'd hump the button on this and your other post.

 

Don't know if you realize it, but you've called me a name four times ('the worst', a "top tier" jerk and a bully twice) and made accusations about my character three times, both actions of which are against the rules of behavior of this forum.

 

I have thick skin though.

 

Another bizarre aspect of this place are the number of people who just make random generalizations about the character of someone based upon anywhere from 100 to 20,000 posts and figure that's gosh darned enough for them to make that call. It's NOT. You don't know me in the slightest. So really, you have NO RIGHT to make those claims against me. ESPECIALLY while in the process of calling me names and libelling me!!!!

 

 

I didn't make a random generalization about you, I made direct statements that were supported by my personal opinion and observations.

 

The mods and pretty much anyone who's been here for some time will tell you - just because you observe something and have an opinion about it, doesn't mean you have a free pass to say what you want.

 

You are right I don't know you personally, I only know you from the site and from what I have observed and interacted with you. I have plenty of right to say what I did and it is hardly strike worthy.

 

I've seen strike's for less, and yes, it is. Especially since you did it twice. Calling people names, regardless of it's your opinion is a strikeable offense.

 

You bully people and play victim all through the guise of well worded prose.

 

How am I bullying you? You started this, and continue to point the finger as if I did something wrong. You've already admitted that my post wasn't a good example of it. (shrug)

 

However your arrogance and condescension is clearly presented when you start quoting post counts and their relevance to someone's POV on here.

 

The post counts had nothing to do with MY opinion, or toward anyone's POV on here. You may have misunderstood what was written.

 

If you are so certain you are blameless, then why are you pushing back so vehemently?

 

:shrug:

 

The only one who is pushing vehemently is you. From your very first response.

 

 

who first engaged who here?

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True story...... at the spinner rack, my best friend at the time, Timmy, showed me a copy of GSXM 1 and gushed about how awesome it seemed and how he'd heard a lot about it. He then purchased two copies like we usually did...one to read and one to bag and board mint. I passed on it, because it was too weird and it wasn't the "real" X-Men...... so I guess I'm not so sharp at comic book investment advice. GOD BLESS.....

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

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GSX 1 is not a good investment.

 

Well....I want one, in 9.8

 

At what price would be a prudent time to buy it?

 

As far as I have researched, I can pick one up for around $4500-$5000 USD.

 

Personally, that is a bit pricy, but it is a Key.

 

I would also like a Hulk 181 in 9.8

 

This seems to be going for $10K-$13K USD.

 

Basically get a GXM for half of what a Hulk 181 goes for.

 

Since I don't have $10K or $5K right now, I am not pressured, but when I do have funds, it's going to be a struggle.

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I think it was just avatar confusion - I noticed it, they will. :angel:

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.....

 

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:sigh:

 

GSX 1 is not a good investment.

 

Well....I want one, in 9.8

 

At what price would be a prudent time to buy it?

 

As far as I have researched, I can pick one up for around $4500-$5000 USD.

 

Personally, that is a bit pricy, but it is a Key.

 

I would also like a Hulk 181 in 9.8

 

This seems to be going for $10K-$13K USD.

 

Basically get a GXM for half of what a Hulk 181 goes for.

 

Since I don't have $10K or $5K right now, I am not pressured, but when I do have funds, it's going to be a struggle.

 

It's a cool book for sure. I worry about the X-men franchise with Sony and all the focus on Avengers and GotG. Just don't see the runway clearly long term with so many movies and cartoons so recently made and gone.

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I don't care about movies and pop culture.

 

I just like Xmen and Wolverine and want those books, but not get hosed on the price lol

 

Just like I love Cyber. He isn't "popular" but I am not paying an inflated price for a Wolverine #80 because of a drawing of a test tube.

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Sorry, thought we were talking investment. If you want a copy you should be able to get one at 80% GPA or better with patience. It is fairly common and the census is only bound to increase.

 

I referenced the movies because they drive speculation among non-core collectors and drive price.

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I do NOT view my collection as an investment.

 

For one, I don't collect "popular" comics.

 

2) I have overpaid for every issue that I have ever bought that wasn't just released (Last time I bought a comic that just came out was back in June '97....I think)

 

I can't pretend to understand why comics are worth what they are worth, but I try to buy what I can afford and pay what I feel is fair (on rarity, quality and age) This recent (2000 and up) hype is just bizarre to my mind.

 

Anyways.

 

Yeah.

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I stated my frustration was about more than this one post.

 

More importantly I addressed what I think is a growing issue on the site where some more experienced members attempt to bully others.

 

CG is clearly an articulate and well conditioned debater, but he is also a bully (which he will clearly disagree with). A lack of strikes just means he is smart enough flirt with a line without crossing it.

 

People can agree or disagree with me and it really doesn't matter, this is my opinion of the nature of his posts based on what I have seen over a number of months and direct/indirect interactions.

 

:shrug:

 

 

 

FYI - I wouldn't buy GSX 1 for investment purposes.

 

If I was a real bully I'd hump the button on this and your other post.

 

Don't know if you realize it, but you've called me a name four times ('the worst', a "top tier" jerk and a bully twice) and made accusations about my character three times, both actions of which are against the rules of behavior of this forum.

 

I have thick skin though.

 

Another bizarre aspect of this place are the number of people who just make random generalizations about the character of someone based upon anywhere from 100 to 20,000 posts and figure that's gosh darned enough for them to make that call. It's NOT. You don't know me in the slightest. So really, you have NO RIGHT to make those claims against me. ESPECIALLY while in the process of calling me names and libelling me!!!!

 

 

I didn't make a random generalization about you, I made direct statements that were supported by my personal opinion and observations.

 

The mods and pretty much anyone who's been here for some time will tell you - just because you observe something and have an opinion about it, doesn't mean you have a free pass to say what you want.

 

You are right I don't know you personally, I only know you from the site and from what I have observed and interacted with you. I have plenty of right to say what I did and it is hardly strike worthy.

 

I've seen strike's for less, and yes, it is. Especially since you did it twice. Calling people names, regardless of it's your opinion is a strikeable offense.

 

You bully people and play victim all through the guise of well worded prose.

 

How am I bullying you? You started this, and continue to point the finger as if I did something wrong. You've already admitted that my post wasn't a good example of it. (shrug)

 

However your arrogance and condescension is clearly presented when you start quoting post counts and their relevance to someone's POV on here.

 

The post counts had nothing to do with MY opinion, or toward anyone's POV on here. You may have misunderstood what was written.

 

If you are so certain you are blameless, then why are you pushing back so vehemently?

 

:shrug:

 

The only one who is pushing vehemently is you. From your very first response.

 

 

who first engaged who here?

 

You engaged everyone by posting ridiculous statements and questions on a public message board. Then, when your post was simply questioned, you responded with name calling.

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I stated my frustration was about more than this one post.

 

More importantly I addressed what I think is a growing issue on the site where some more experienced members attempt to bully others.

 

CG is clearly an articulate and well conditioned debater, but he is also a bully (which he will clearly disagree with). A lack of strikes just means he is smart enough flirt with a line without crossing it.

 

People can agree or disagree with me and it really doesn't matter, this is my opinion of the nature of his posts based on what I have seen over a number of months and direct/indirect interactions.

 

:shrug:

 

 

 

FYI - I wouldn't buy GSX 1 for investment purposes.

 

If I was a real bully I'd hump the button on this and your other post.

 

Don't know if you realize it, but you've called me a name four times ('the worst', a "top tier" jerk and a bully twice) and made accusations about my character three times, both actions of which are against the rules of behavior of this forum.

 

I have thick skin though.

 

Another bizarre aspect of this place are the number of people who just make random generalizations about the character of someone based upon anywhere from 100 to 20,000 posts and figure that's gosh darned enough for them to make that call. It's NOT. You don't know me in the slightest. So really, you have NO RIGHT to make those claims against me. ESPECIALLY while in the process of calling me names and libelling me!!!!

 

 

I didn't make a random generalization about you, I made direct statements that were supported by my personal opinion and observations.

 

The mods and pretty much anyone who's been here for some time will tell you - just because you observe something and have an opinion about it, doesn't mean you have a free pass to say what you want.

 

You are right I don't know you personally, I only know you from the site and from what I have observed and interacted with you. I have plenty of right to say what I did and it is hardly strike worthy.

 

I've seen strike's for less, and yes, it is. Especially since you did it twice. Calling people names, regardless of it's your opinion is a strikeable offense.

 

You bully people and play victim all through the guise of well worded prose.

 

How am I bullying you? You started this, and continue to point the finger as if I did something wrong. You've already admitted that my post wasn't a good example of it. (shrug)

 

However your arrogance and condescension is clearly presented when you start quoting post counts and their relevance to someone's POV on here.

 

The post counts had nothing to do with MY opinion, or toward anyone's POV on here. You may have misunderstood what was written.

 

If you are so certain you are blameless, then why are you pushing back so vehemently?

 

:shrug:

 

The only one who is pushing vehemently is you. From your very first response.

 

 

who first engaged who here?

 

You engaged everyone by posting ridiculous statements and questions on a public message board. Then, when your post was simply questioned, you responded with name calling.

 

I don't remember inviting you to the party. If you think it is ridiculous then don't engage.

 

Side note - CG doesn't simply question anything - he pulls apart every sentence of a post and makes independent statements about everything in isolation.

 

 

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I stated my frustration was about more than this one post.

 

More importantly I addressed what I think is a growing issue on the site where some more experienced members attempt to bully others.

 

CG is clearly an articulate and well conditioned debater, but he is also a bully (which he will clearly disagree with). A lack of strikes just means he is smart enough flirt with a line without crossing it.

 

People can agree or disagree with me and it really doesn't matter, this is my opinion of the nature of his posts based on what I have seen over a number of months and direct/indirect interactions.

 

:shrug:

 

 

 

FYI - I wouldn't buy GSX 1 for investment purposes.

 

If I was a real bully I'd hump the button on this and your other post.

 

Don't know if you realize it, but you've called me a name four times ('the worst', a "top tier" jerk and a bully twice) and made accusations about my character three times, both actions of which are against the rules of behavior of this forum.

 

I have thick skin though.

 

Another bizarre aspect of this place are the number of people who just make random generalizations about the character of someone based upon anywhere from 100 to 20,000 posts and figure that's gosh darned enough for them to make that call. It's NOT. You don't know me in the slightest. So really, you have NO RIGHT to make those claims against me. ESPECIALLY while in the process of calling me names and libelling me!!!!

 

 

I didn't make a random generalization about you, I made direct statements that were supported by my personal opinion and observations.

 

1)The mods and pretty much anyone who's been here for some time will tell you - just because you observe something and have an opinion about it, doesn't mean you have a free pass to say what you want.

 

You are right I don't know you personally, I only know you from the site and from what I have observed and interacted with you. I have plenty of right to say what I did and it is hardly strike worthy.

 

2)I've seen strike's for less, and yes, it is. Especially since you did it twice. Calling people names, regardless of it's your opinion is a strikeable offense.

 

You bully people and play victim all through the guise of well worded prose.

 

3)How am I bullying you? You started this, and continue to point the finger as if I did something wrong. You've already admitted that my post wasn't a good example of it. (shrug)

 

However your arrogance and condescension is clearly presented when you start quoting post counts and their relevance to someone's POV on here.

 

4)The post counts had nothing to do with MY opinion, or toward anyone's POV on here. You may have misunderstood what was written.

 

If you are so certain you are blameless, then why are you pushing back so vehemently?

 

:shrug:

 

5)The only one who is pushing vehemently is you. From your very first response.

 

 

who first engaged who here?

 

1) Forum: a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas. - Pretty sure my commentary fell under this definition to begin with and once you engaged me I am also fairly sure my follow-up also falls under this.

2) :shrug: Strikes are fairly inconsistent and realistically I couldn't tell you with 100% certainty what does and does not deserve a strike. However, I maintain my comments are fairly innocuous compared to most of the strike worthy behavior I have seen.

3) Bully: a blustering browbeating person.

4) (shrug) I did misunderstand this one. I apologize for that.

5) We are both culpable in this instance. However, why you feel the need to break down a conversation and comment on every individual point as a means of argument and pretend it is not "aggressive" is beyond me.

 

:wishluck:

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However, why you feel the need to break down a conversation and comment on every individual point as a means of argument and pretend it is not "aggressive" is beyond me.

 

 

There is nothing aggressive about breaking down a conversation and responding to each comment separately. It's internet debate 101.

 

If you don't feel like replying in like manner then just say that, but he did nothing wrong other than address all of your thoughts cleanly and neatly.

 

 

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However, why you feel the need to break down a conversation and comment on every individual point as a means of argument and pretend it is not "aggressive" is beyond me.

 

 

There is nothing aggressive about breaking down a conversation and responding to each comment separately. It's internet debate 101.

 

If you don't feel like replying in like manner then just say that, but he did nothing wrong other than address all of your thoughts cleanly and neatly.

 

 

I respectfully disagree. The approach is a scare tactic and not necessarily a logical one. An argument is more that the individual sentences it contains.

 

However, I did note that my frustration with him was encompassing more than this specific discussion.

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There is nothing aggressive about breaking down a conversation and responding to each comment separately. It's internet debate 101.

 

If you don't feel like replying in like manner then just say that, but he did nothing wrong other than address all of your thoughts cleanly and neatly.

 

 

 

There is nothing aggressive

ag·gres·sive

əˈɡresiv/

adjective

adjective: aggressive

 

ready or likely to attack or confront; characterized by or resulting from aggression.

"he's very uncooperative and aggressive"

synonyms: hostile, belligerent, bellicose, antagonistic, truculent; More

pugnacious, combative, two-fisted, violent;

macho;

confrontational;

quarrelsome, argumentative

"aggressive behavior"

warmongering, warlike, warring, belligerent, bellicose, hawkish, militaristic;

offensive, expansionist

"aggressive foreign policy"

antonyms: meek, friendly, peaceable, peaceful

pursuing one's aims and interests forcefully, sometimes unduly so.

"an aggressive businessman"

synonyms: assertive, pushy, forceful, vigorous, energetic, dynamic;

 

 

breaking down

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/break%20down

 

separately

 

sep·a·rate·ly

ˈsep(ə)rətlē/

adverb

adverb: separately

 

as a separate entity or entities; not together.

"they arrived together but left separately"

synonyms: individually, one by one, one at a time, singly, severally

 

internet debate 101

 

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Boredom has it's uses. I wonder, if I applied myself, could I cure 68% of cancer?

 

 

 

 

 

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However, why you feel the need to break down a conversation and comment on every individual point as a means of argument and pretend it is not "aggressive" is beyond me.

 

 

There is nothing aggressive about breaking down a conversation and responding to each comment separately. It's internet debate 101.

 

If you don't feel like replying in like manner then just say that, but he did nothing wrong other than address all of your thoughts cleanly and neatly.

 

 

I respectfully disagree. The approach is a scare tactic and not necessarily a logical one. An argument is more that the individual sentences it contains.

 

However, I did note that my frustration with him was encompassing more than this specific discussion.

 

So when you have multiple points worth responding to you are saying someone can only respond to them all together?

 

I don't understand.

 

All he did was address your points individually. There was nothing aggressive about it.

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