James Bond XXIV: SPECTRE - "You're a kite dancing in a hurricane Mr. Bond."

[Bosco685]

Trailer #2

 

 

[Bosco685]

Some fantastic scenes throughout.

 

 

 

 

[Chip Cataldo]

I'm not really a James bond fan, but that looks amazing.

 

I'll be there, for sure!

[comix4fun]

Trailer #2

 

 

 

 

[Buzzetta]

This really has the ability to be the in the top 3 spot for highest grossing movies of the year.

[Bosco685]

Yes, it does!

 

[The Brain]

 

 

 

 

 

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[delekkerste]

Just introduced my wife to Bond this weekend (not literally).......she can see no one else but Craig as the character Im a Bond fan from way back A product of Roger Moore but grew to thinking Connery was the best UNTIL Craig. I think they are neck and neck in very different ways. I wanted Brosnan to be the guy (being a huge Remington Steele fan) but I'd have to put him at 4th.

 

 

Daniel Craig is the James Bond for people who don't actually like James Bond. All the people who say, "I wasn't really into James Bond until Daniel Craig came along" = people who were never really into James Bond until they rebooted the series into a Jason Bourne/James Bond hybrid. I'm not saying it's all bad - I enjoy it, as kind of an "Elseworlds" or "Ultimate" version of James Bond. But, I don't consider any of these Craig films to really be Bond. Not to mention, Quantum of Solace was one of the worst entries in the entire series and Skyfall wasn't all that much better. Casino Royale was an excellent film, but I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that was the best Bond flick of all-time.

 

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

[comix4fun]

Just introduced my wife to Bond this weekend (not literally).......she can see no one else but Craig as the character Im a Bond fan from way back A product of Roger Moore but grew to thinking Connery was the best UNTIL Craig. I think they are neck and neck in very different ways. I wanted Brosnan to be the guy (being a huge Remington Steele fan) but I'd have to put him at 4th.

 

 

Daniel Craig is the James Bond for people who don't actually like James Bond. All the people who say, "I wasn't really into James Bond until Daniel Craig came along" = people who were never really into James Bond until they rebooted the series into a Jason Bourne/James Bond hybrid. I'm not saying it's all bad - I enjoy it, as kind of an "Elseworlds" or "Ultimate" version of James Bond. But, I don't consider any of these Craig films to really be Bond. Not to mention, Quantum of Solace was one of the worst entries in the entire series and Skyfall wasn't all that much better. Casino Royale was an excellent film, but I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that was the best Bond flick of all-time.

 

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

 

 

I was too young to see Sean Connery in the theaters and lost too much of my childhood to Roger Moore.

 

I do appreciate how a single character can be portrayed effectively in so many different ways.

 

BTW I could watch a dozen films with a Colin Firth "Kingsmen"-style spy and be quite happy.

[bane]

Just introduced my wife to Bond this weekend (not literally).......she can see no one else but Craig as the character Im a Bond fan from way back A product of Roger Moore but grew to thinking Connery was the best UNTIL Craig. I think they are neck and neck in very different ways. I wanted Brosnan to be the guy (being a huge Remington Steele fan) but I'd have to put him at 4th.

 

 

Daniel Craig is the James Bond for people who don't actually like James Bond. All the people who say, "I wasn't really into James Bond until Daniel Craig came along" = people who were never really into James Bond until they rebooted the series into a Jason Bourne/James Bond hybrid. I'm not saying it's all bad - I enjoy it, as kind of an "Elseworlds" or "Ultimate" version of James Bond. But, I don't consider any of these Craig films to really be Bond. Not to mention, Quantum of Solace was one of the worst entries in the entire series and Skyfall wasn't all that much better. Casino Royale was an excellent film, but I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that was the best Bond flick of all-time.

 

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

 

As always Gene the voice of reason when it comes to Bond.

 

Totally agree.

[Comicopolis]

Just introduced my wife to Bond this weekend (not literally).......she can see no one else but Craig as the character Im a Bond fan from way back A product of Roger Moore but grew to thinking Connery was the best UNTIL Craig. I think they are neck and neck in very different ways. I wanted Brosnan to be the guy (being a huge Remington Steele fan) but I'd have to put him at 4th.

 

 

Daniel Craig is the James Bond for people who don't actually like James Bond. All the people who say, "I wasn't really into James Bond until Daniel Craig came along" = people who were never really into James Bond until they rebooted the series into a Jason Bourne/James Bond hybrid. I'm not saying it's all bad - I enjoy it, as kind of an "Elseworlds" or "Ultimate" version of James Bond. But, I don't consider any of these Craig films to really be Bond. Not to mention, Quantum of Solace was one of the worst entries in the entire series and Skyfall wasn't all that much better. Casino Royale was an excellent film, but I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that was the best Bond flick of all-time.

 

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

 

As always Gene the voice of reason when it comes to Bond.

 

Totally agree.

 

[delekkerste]

The Board Members Debate the Various Bond Films Earlier This Year Thread

[kdoginohio]

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

He's too short.

[delekkerste]

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

He's too short.

 

He's 6'2".

 

Craig - 5'10"

Brosnan - 6'2"

Dalton - 6'2"

Moore - 6'1"

Lazenby - 6'2"

Connery - 6'2"

[kimik]

Just introduced my wife to Bond this weekend (not literally).......she can see no one else but Craig as the character Im a Bond fan from way back A product of Roger Moore but grew to thinking Connery was the best UNTIL Craig. I think they are neck and neck in very different ways. I wanted Brosnan to be the guy (being a huge Remington Steele fan) but I'd have to put him at 4th.

 

 

Daniel Craig is the James Bond for people who don't actually like James Bond. All the people who say, "I wasn't really into James Bond until Daniel Craig came along" = people who were never really into James Bond until they rebooted the series into a Jason Bourne/James Bond hybrid. I'm not saying it's all bad - I enjoy it, as kind of an "Elseworlds" or "Ultimate" version of James Bond. But, I don't consider any of these Craig films to really be Bond. Not to mention, Quantum of Solace was one of the worst entries in the entire series and Skyfall wasn't all that much better. Casino Royale was an excellent film, but I can't take anyone seriously who thinks that was the best Bond flick of all-time.

 

My dark horse pick for the next James Bond is Richard Armitage (who is debuting as Francis Dolarhyde, a.k.a. the "Red Dragon", in this week's episode of Hannibal).

 

As always Gene the voice of reason when it comes to Bond.

 

Totally agree.

 

I disagree.

 

It is likely a generational thing. For me, Craig is the best Bond as he is the Bond that would kill all of the other Bonds. As a kid watching Star Trek and Bond reruns with my dad in the 80s, I used to wonder why Kirk and the Connery Bond were so out of shape.

 

 

[NewWorldOrder]

My James Bond Rankings:

 

1. SEAN CONNERY - still the best

 

2. Daniel Craig- Darker than Connery, and yet just as good

 

3. Timothy Dalton- Only appeared in 2 Bond films and he was the first Bond film I watched as a kid. He was the Daniel Craig of the 80's and the baby boomers were too stupid to see how amazing he was. ing . He should have had 5 more films minimum.

 

4. Sir Roger "overrated" Moore- Campy, campy, and more campy. I can see why some fans enjoyed his films, but besides the "Man with the Golden Gun" and a couple cool villains like Jaws I found his films tough to watch

 

5. George Lazenby- His one and only film was ok, and he wasn't too shabby as a Bond. He had tough shoes to fill being the first new Bond actor after Sean

 

6. Pierce Brosnan - the worst corporate Bond of my 90's childhood. Goldeneye was good, but the rest are just like the 90's comics.....absolute DREK. The worst villains and story-lines. I would rather watch Batman and Robin again.

 

I am so happy that finally people that are under the age of 60 can now see a new Bond film that involves SPECTRE! It has been too long since Bond fought his real enemy.

 

 

[Chris_Skeleton]

My James Bond Rankings:

 

1. SEAN CONNERY - still the best

 

2. Daniel Craig- Darker than Connery, and yet just as good

 

3. Timothy Dalton- Only appeared in 2 Bond films and he was the first Bond film I watched as a kid. He was the Daniel Craig of the 80's and the baby boomers were too stupid to see how amazing he was. ing . He should have had 5 more films minimum.

 

4. Sir Roger "overrated" Moore- Campy, campy, and more campy. I can see why some fans enjoyed his films, but besides the "Man with the Golden Gun" and a couple cool villains like Jaws I found his films tough to watch

 

5. George Lazenby- His one and only film was ok, and he wasn't too shabby as a Bond. He had tough shoes to fill being the first new Bond actor after Sean

 

6. Pierce Brosnan - the worst corporate Bond of my 90's childhood. Goldeneye was good, but the rest are just like the 90's comics.....absolute DREK. The worst villains and story-lines. I would rather watch Batman and Robin again.

 

I am so happy that finally people that are under the age of 60 can now see a new Bond film that involves SPECTRE! It has been too long since Bond fought his real enemy.

 

 

This is exactly how I would rank them, and pretty much the exact reasons. Dalton should've remained Bond for all of Brosnan's movies. I couldn't stand his Bond.

[delekkerste]

My rankings:

 

#1 Sean Connery

#2 Timothy Dalton

#3 Everybody else

 

Not that I didn't enjoy Lazenby's one outing as Bond, while Moore's The Spy Who Loved Me and Craig's Casino Royale rank #5 and #8 on my personal favorite 007 films list. But, Connery planted the flag and set the standard for all others who followed (also benefiting from the best stories, being original/novel at the time, and all the Cold War '60s anxiety), while Dalton was unbeatable for being sophisticated and ruthless in one package - the closest embodiment of the literary Bond by far.

 

I like Daniel Craig a lot, but his/the producers' interpretation of the character has taken 007 and the franchise too far away from both his film and literary roots, IMO. There is little about the character that screams "sophisticated super-spy" any more. He's a brooding/emo thug clad in Brioni. He's about as smooth as grade 10 sandpaper. He doesn't wear the clothes; the clothes wear him. He beds ladies with his raw animal magnetism, not with much wit or charm. And, as if we can even picture Craig's Bond having gone to college, let alone having attended Eton and Cambridge. He even drinks friggin' Heineken now for crying out loud. Much of the humor, gadgets, supporting characters, etc. have largely gone by the wayside in favor of appealing to the all-out realistic action ethos of the Bourne films. Not that it can't be entertaining (as Casino Royale proved) - the problem is that it's just very generic. It could be Bond, it could be Bourne, it could be the latest Jason Statham film.

 

Say what you will about Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan, but, at least when they were playing 007, you knew they were playing Bond, James Bond and not Bourne, Jason Bourne and that they were cooler and more suave, urbane, sophisticated and had more connoisseurship than you. Men wanted to be Bond and women wanted to be with Bond. That may still hold true to some extent, but it's for different reasons - you don't admire Craig's wit or smoothness (his 007 barely has any), you admire his rugged physique, hard demeanor and fighting ability. Women may want to be with him, but it's because they think he's a brusque animal, not because he's a suave, good-looking charmer. As a re-imagined "Ultimate universe" Bond, it works. But, the essence of Bond that we knew and loved, even through the worst of the Moore and Brosnan films, has largely disappeared. Some may say good riddance and that it was necessary. I don't agree.

 

At the end of the day, I'll take even a bad James Bond flick over most other films. I've watched all of the films multiple/many times with the exception of the last two (though, even then I'm sure there will be repeat viewings in the future). All of the actors brought something different to the table, and have their individual strengths and weaknesses. I just think the lavish praise heaped on both Craig and Casino Royale is way overdone (even though I like them both) - it's like people were so grateful to see the end of the Brosnan era that they forgot all the great Bond films and actors that preceded it.

[kimik]

My rankings:

 

#1 Sean Connery

#2 Timothy Dalton

#3 Everybody else

 

Not that I didn't enjoy Lazenby's one outing as Bond, while Moore's The Spy Who Loved Me and Craig's Casino Royale rank #5 and #8 on my personal favorite 007 films list. But, Connery planted the flag and set the standard for all others who followed (also benefiting from the best stories, being original/novel at the time, and all the Cold War '60s anxiety), while Dalton was unbeatable for being sophisticated and ruthless in one package - the closest embodiment of the literary Bond by far.

 

I like Daniel Craig a lot, but his/the producers' interpretation of the character has taken 007 and the franchise too far away from both his film and literary roots, IMO. There is little about the character that screams "sophisticated super-spy" any more. He's a brooding/emo thug clad in Brioni. He's about as smooth as grade 10 sandpaper. He doesn't wear the clothes; the clothes wear him. He beds ladies with his raw animal magnetism, not with much wit or charm. And, as if we can even picture Craig's Bond having gone to college, let alone having attended Eton and Cambridge. He even drinks friggin' Heineken now for crying out loud. Much of the humor, gadgets, supporting characters, etc. have largely gone by the wayside in favor of appealing to the all-out realistic action ethos of the Bourne films. Not that it can't be entertaining (as Casino Royale proved) - the problem is that it's just very generic. It could be Bond, it could be Bourne, it could be the latest Jason Statham film.

 

Say what you will about Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan, but, at least when they were playing 007, you knew they were playing Bond, James Bond and not Bourne, Jason Bourne and that they were cooler and more suave, urbane, sophisticated and had more connoisseurship than you. Men wanted to be Bond and women wanted to be with Bond. That may still hold true to some extent, but it's for different reasons - you don't admire Craig's wit or smoothness (his 007 barely has any), you admire his physique, hardness and fighting ability. Women may want to be with him, but it's because they think he's a brusque animal, not because he's a suave, good-looking charmer. As a re-imagined "Ultimate universe" Bond, it works. But, the essence of Bond that we knew and loved, even through the worst of the Moore and Brosnan films, has largely disappeared. Some may say good riddance and that it was necessary. I don't agree.

 

At the end of the day, I'll take even a bad James Bond flick over most other films. I've watched all of the films multiple/many times with the exception of the last two (though, even then I'm sure there will be repeat viewings in the future). All of the actors brought something different to the table, and have their individual strengths and weaknesses. I just think the lavish praise heaped on both Craig and Casino Royale is way overdone (even though I like them both) - it's like people were so grateful to see the end of the Brosnan era that they forgot all the great Bond films and actors that preceded it.

 

If you are basing it on sauve, good-looking charmer, then Brosnan would likely be at the top of the heap.

[Goldeneye]

The next Bond is an easy pick for me. I want someone we can have in the role for a long time and not worry about recasting.

 

I think we are left with two choices Theo James or Benedict Cumberbatch.

As far as ranking previous Bonds

 

1. Dalton - Best actor of the bunch. In fact was originally considered to be Connery's replacement in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Comes across the way you would think James Bond would act.

 

2. Daniel Craig - Craig by far the second best actor off the bunch and feels like he is playing the extension of Timothy Dalton.

 

3. Sean Connery - What can be said except he set the standard for others to follow. Really just played an extension of himself. Where Connery loses points is the way he manhandles women during his era. I am sure it looked fine for the day, but can't watch any of his Bond films with my girlfriend

 

4. Pierce Brosnan - His Bond movies were fun over the top and brought relevance to a franchise that was struggling

 

5. George Lazenby - Lazenby suffered from bad -script writing, the intent by producers covering his face, and jokes through in throughout the film to say this is not Bond. Of course this film also had the worst Bond Girl character ever created as well.

 

6. Roger Moore - Moore is just not James Bond. All Moore is doing is playing an extension of the Saint. Moore also hurt his standing by staying in two Bond films too many because age caught up with him. Moore's Bond films are nothing more than Saint films and I will leave it at that.