X-Factor #5 and #6 -- APOCALYPSE!

[LOC Collectibles]

Didn't see an appreciation thread for these two books so I thought I'd start one. Still feel like Apocalypse is one of the most underrated badasses out there! When I was a kid he was THE villain to watch on Saturday mornings. Show some love for the big blue guy!

 

 

Here's my copy of #6

 

[awakeintheashes]

Here it is

[jason4]

I have a raw one... loved him on Saturday mornings and movie apocalypse looks better in the new trailer...coolest villain ever imo

[jason4]

Can someone post a screen shot of his cameo in xfactor 5? I don't belive I've ever seen it

[Escaflown4]

Here you go.

 

[jason4]

Wow that's cool! Awesome opening to the character. I may need an xfactor 5 eventually...

[revat]

Wow that's cool! Awesome opening to the character. I may need an xfactor 5 eventually...

 

I've always thought this one is 'pushing it' on 'cameo'.

 

Has a panel to himself, full bust, talks, says his own name, states his goals, sort of makes a motion. I'll grant you that he's wearing a mask here, although most superheroes and villains wear masks anyways.

 

Not to get into it again, but MOS 17 is more of a cameo, Xmen Annual 14 is more of a cameo. This one IMO should be the true 1st app. But alas, I have no problem letting the market decide.

[tmcneil82]

Yeah, it seems the rules for cameo vs 1st are rather loose sometimes. At least 6 has the better cover for a first appearance of the two.

[Doktor]

It's kind of the "exactly the same as Hulk 180 with Wolverine" situation. Stands there, introduces himself. Seen pretty much fully. Just doesn't actually impact the story at all (take those panels out & put into the next issue, story doesn't change)

 

So if we call Hulk 180 a cameo, so is this.

[MR SigS]

It's kind of the "exactly the same as Hulk 180 with Wolverine" situation. Stands there, introduces himself. Seen pretty much fully. Just doesn't actually impact the story at all (take those panels out & put into the next issue, story doesn't change)

 

So if we call Hulk 180 a cameo, so is this.

 

Though I'm not disputing your choice of example, there are some differences.

 

"[Apocalypse] Stands there..."

Wolverine is leaping into action.

 

"... introduces himself [to the reader]..."

Wolverine introduces himself to the main characters (a bit of a stretch, but a difference nonetheless).

 

"Seen pretty much fully"

Huge difference here of course. Wolverine appears as he's meant to be seen.

 

"Just doesn't actually impact the story at all"

While it may not be much, in comparison to the Apocalypse one-panel, Wolverine's one-panel is much bigger as he interrupts the battle for which the whole issue was written.

 

I suppose the two belong in the same '1st appearances via cameo' category, but within that category I think they're on opposite ends.

[revat]

It's kind of the "exactly the same as Hulk 180 with Wolverine" situation. Stands there, introduces himself. Seen pretty much fully. Just doesn't actually impact the story at all (take those panels out & put into the next issue, story doesn't change)

 

So if we call Hulk 180 a cameo, so is this.

 

Though I'm not disputing your choice of example, there are some differences.

 

"[Apocalypse] Stands there..."

Wolverine is leaping into action.

 

"... introduces himself [to the reader]..."

Wolverine introduces himself to the main characters (a bit of a stretch, but a difference nonetheless).

 

"Seen pretty much fully"

Huge difference here of course. Wolverine appears as he's meant to be seen.

 

"Just doesn't actually impact the story at all"

While it may not be much, in comparison to the Apocalypse one-panel, Wolverine's one-panel is much bigger as he interrupts the battle for which the whole issue was written.

 

I suppose the two belong in the same '1st appearances via cameo' category, but within that category I think they're on opposite ends.

 

They're both playing basketball, but Wolverine is the Warriors and Apoc is the Sixers....