Capn17 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Watched the first 5 episodes so far. Enjoying it so far. Definitely differences with the book. Happy to see a 2nd season is official. May have to re-read the books after finishing the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Capn17 said: Watched the first 5 episodes so far. Enjoying it so far. Definitely differences with the book. Happy to see a 2nd season is official. May have to re-read the books after finishing the season. Is it as good as the Graphic Novels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunsicker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, comix4fun said: Loved the series. A little disappointed they had such a forehead slapping piece of horror movie logic towards the end to set up the ending, but they didn't do it as much as many shows have in this genre, so it's still a huge step above. Yeah, I liked the series, but two pieces of logic at the end really ruined it for me. As long as we are thinking of the same stupid logic. Spoiler When Ellie took the key with her to get the crown. And when they suddenly changed from wanting to get Dodge back in the well-house to needing to put her through the Black door. I had honestly hoped for an even darker ending. Spoiler As Kinsey was separated from the others I had hoped that she was the one who had been changed by the identity key with Dodge assuming Kinsey's identity. That would have led to really screwed up characters, but would have explained why the idea changed from getting Dodge to the well-house to the black door. Oh and one last thing Spoiler What purpose did Eden play in the end other than to be a red shirt? Edited February 11, 2020 by thunsicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunsicker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Oh one other thing that bothered me somewhat. With all these issues why aren't these kids seeing therapists? Edited February 11, 2020 by thunsicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, thunsicker said: Yeah, I liked the series, but two pieces of logic at the end really ruined it for me. As long as we are thinking of the same stupid logic. Reveal hidden contents When Ellie took the key with her to get the crown. And when they suddenly changed from wanting to get Dodge back in the well-house to needing to put her through the Black door. Yes, we are... Spoiler Their ultimate weapon against Dodge wasn't a key it was....she/he/it can't take any of keys from a Locke. So, they have the key to the Crown of Shadows to use against Dodge and they hand it to a non-Locke and send this non-Locke with the lynchpin key to operate the Crown of Shadows and send it back into the last place/lair of Dodge. The key didn't have to go at all, since Elle was bringing the Crown back to Key House anyway? WTF man? W. T. F. ?!?! As much as I enjoyed the whole season, this almost ruined it for me right there. I literally threw my hands up in the air. Switching from locking Dodge in the well house as opposed to through the Black Door was another thin plot device because once Elle woke up it would be clear she'd be screaming how she was Elle, etc. and it would wreck the upcoming season 2 slow burn/big reveal, Elle needed to not be able to reveal who she really was. They did telegraph pretty clearly that the Identity Key was being used a bunch, and that the unconscious Dodge was Elle, the audience should have been well in front of the Locke kids on that front. Juno Beach and Doc McCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 7 hours ago, thunsicker said: Yeah, I liked the series, but two pieces of logic at the end really ruined it for me. As long as we are thinking of the same stupid logic. Reveal hidden contents When Ellie took the key with her to get the crown. And when they suddenly changed from wanting to get Dodge back in the well-house to needing to put her through the Black door. I had honestly hoped for an even darker ending. Reveal hidden contents As Kinsey was separated from the others I had hoped that she was the one who had been changed by the identity key with Dodge assuming Kinsey's identity. That would have led to really screwed up characters, but would have explained why the idea changed from getting Dodge to the well-house to the black door. Oh and one last thing Reveal hidden contents What purpose did Eden play in the end other than to be a red shirt? 7 hours ago, comix4fun said: Yes, we are... Reveal hidden contents Their ultimate weapon against Dodge wasn't a key it was....she/he/it can't take any of keys from a Locke. So, they have the key to the Crown of Shadows to use against Dodge and they hand it to a non-Locke and send this non-Locke with the lynchpin key to operate the Crown of Shadows and send it back into the last place/lair of Dodge. The key didn't have to go at all, since Elle was bringing the Crown back to Key House anyway? WTF man? W. T. F. ?!?! As much as I enjoyed the whole season, this almost ruined it for me right there. I literally threw my hands up in the air. Switching from locking Dodge in the well house as opposed to through the Black Door was another thin plot device because once Elle woke up it would be clear she'd be screaming how she was Elle, etc. and it would wreck the upcoming season 2 slow burn/big reveal, Elle needed to not be able to reveal who she really was. They did telegraph pretty clearly that the Identity Key was being used a bunch, and that the unconscious Dodge was Elle, the audience should have been well in front of the Locke kids on that front. Although it was an obvious tension plot point, I still enjoyed the show overall. Although it would have made it more tension-filled if Dodge ended up with those two items (avoiding spoilers) through two separate actions. Like she had a strategy going to land them both to achieve her goal. thunsicker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bosco685 said: Although it was an obvious tension plot point, I still enjoyed the show overall. Although it would have made it more tension-filled if Dodge ended up with those two items (avoiding spoilers) through two separate actions. Like she had a strategy going to land them both to achieve her goal. How does it compare to the GN by Joe Hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 hours ago, piper said: How does it compare to the GN by Joe Hill? I have read the GN's, and had a really good time watching the show. How they pulled off Bode's head key experience was very well done. I wasn't sure that would come together so easily. piper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Suprising lack of comments. They did this really well. A slow start had me worried but by ep #6 it was full steam ahead. The kids all acted well, in fact much better than the adults (Steve Williams aside as always) - the mother was especially poor. Dodge wasn't as scary as hoped, and I did ask why she didn't put the effort into her performance, when her acting whilst going through omega was excellent. Great ending, the 'soldiers' interacted well, and nicely built for season 2. Eps #1 - #4 - 5/10 #5 - #6 - 6.5/10 #7 - #10 - 9/10 Well worth the effort to grind through the first couple as it finishes extremely well. Highly recommended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 8:53 PM, Beige said: Suprising lack of comments. They did this really well. A slow start had me worried but by ep #6 it was full steam ahead. The kids all acted well, in fact much better than the adults (Steve Williams aside as always) - the mother was especially poor. Dodge wasn't as scary as hoped, and I did ask why she didn't put the effort into her performance, when her acting whilst going through omega was excellent. Great ending, the 'soldiers' interacted well, and nicely built for season 2. Eps #1 - #4 - 5/10 #5 - #6 - 6.5/10 #7 - #10 - 9/10 Well worth the effort to grind through the first couple as it finishes extremely well. Highly recommended Nice! I was just telling my wife that it is a little slower then I was hoping and it hasn’t really grabbed me yet. I think we finished episode 3 last night and it’s good to know it eventually gets into high gear. Beige 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I enjoyed it and agree with what everyone said above about the lack of logic in the final episode to move the plot along. I preferred the comics, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Comicopolis said: I enjoyed it and agree with what everyone said above about the lack of logic in the final episode to move the plot along. I preferred the comics, though. Ok. I’m going to skip it then. I loved the comic series and don’t want to spend the whole time comparing the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 hours ago, piper said: Ok. I’m going to skip it then. I loved the comic series and don’t want to spend the whole time comparing the two. IMO, you are missing out. The minor concern with how certain things lined up near the end is just that when you factor in the complete season's overall experience. I think they did a great job with the casting, story conversion and even the soundtrack to complement the details. I just would have handled a few things different. But that's easy to say afterwards as a post-production quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn17 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 6:54 PM, piper said: Is it as good as the Graphic Novels? Personally, I think the books are much better. Much more captivating, in my opinion. The show does okay. There are a lot of "huh? Why'd they do (didn't do) that?" moments. Still will watch the 2nd season to see where it goes and if it improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn17 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/12/2020 at 6:12 AM, Bosco685 said: I have read the GN's, and had a really good time watching the show. How they pulled off Bode's head key experience was very well done. I wasn't sure that would come together so easily. Agree with this. Thought they did this very well. I tried to imagine what my head would look like. Maybe a large comic book store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunsicker Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Bosco685 said: IMO, you are missing out. The minor concern with how certain things lined up near the end is just that when you factor in the complete season's overall experience. I think they did a great job with the casting, story conversion and even the soundtrack to complement the details. I just would have handled a few things different. But that's easy to say afterwards as a post-production quarterback. Yeah, I agree. Overall it was enjoyable, the wtf moments in the last episode were a bit disappointing, but not enough to make me regret watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, thunsicker said: Yeah, I agree. Overall it was enjoyable, the wtf moments in the last episode were a bit disappointing, but not enough to make me regret watching it. Exactly! Sometimes we pick these things apart so much because we want the perfect portrayal (and I do get it with fan excitement), we convince others the entire production was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnenock Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Well I read the books when they came out...can't say they stuck with me over the years. My daughter and I watched the series together and she liked it quite a bit, which made me like it quite a bit. We are on board for the second season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Beach Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Overall I liked it even with the plot contrivances. I have to say though that the town definitely had the worst medical examiners/autopsies in the world Spoiler The death of the first kids ruled a drowning? Any ME can tell if a body was already dead before going into the water. Same with Joe, who somehow managed to smother himself with a plastic bag sitting in a chair? When we see a flashback of the event we see he was violently killed. Great autopsy work, there. Rockyjo3 and bb8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb8 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I generally liked it as well. The only thing that really irked me was the autistic boy and his military jargon schtick. Maybe it bugged me because I was in the military, but I found it extremely annoying. Other than that, decent first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...