gadzukes Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I posted this in General but thought i should post it here too. For all of you Pence lovers the Heritage auction had a bunch of keys: On the left is the Heritage Pence Price. On the right is the most recent GPA "cent" prices of the same comic or current 1 year average. After that is the percentage of the cent price that the pence price sold for. TOS39 7.5 ........$7768 ...$9560 ...81% DD 1 7.5 ...........$2031 ...$3663 ...56% ASM1 8.5 .........$16,730 $23,000 72% Avengers 1 7.5 $5736 ....$6865 ...84% Avengers 4 8.0 $1793 ....$3000 ...60% ST 110 8.0 .......$5497 ....$7433 ...74% FF 5 7.0 ...........$2390 ....$4000 ...58% ASM 14 8.0 .....$1434.... $2280 ...63% 2 of the keys went for over 80% 2 of the keys were between 70-80% 2 of the keys were between 60-70% 2 of the keys were between 55-60% The average percentage of these 8 keys (as relating to cent values) was basically 70% (I rounded up slightly) I really think pence copies are getting good recognition right now and may continue to go up in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupergirlDC1959 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I posted this in General but thought i should post it here too. For all of you Pence lovers the Heritage auction had a bunch of keys: On the left is the Heritage Pence Price. On the right is the most recent GPA "cent" prices of the same comic or current 1 year average. After that is the percentage of the cent price that the pence price sold for. TOS39 7.5 ........$7768 ...$9560 ...81% DD 1 7.5 ...........$2031 ...$3663 ...56% ASM1 8.5 .........$16,730 $23,000 72% Avengers 1 7.5 $5736 ....$6865 ...84% Avengers 4 8.0 $1793 ....$3000 ...60% ST 110 8.0 .......$5497 ....$7433 ...74% FF 5 7.0 ...........$2390 ....$4000 ...58% ASM 14 8.0 .....$1434.... $2280 ...63% 2 of the keys went for over 80% 2 of the keys were between 70-80% 2 of the keys were between 60-70% 2 of the keys were between 55-60% The average percentage of these 8 keys (as relating to cent values) was basically 70% (I rounded up slightly) I really think pence copies are getting good recognition right now and may continue to go up in price. I have the same feeling they are very rare compared to the books printed in the U.S. But I do not see myself buying any just can't seem to get into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I posted this in General but thought i should post it here too. For all of you Pence lovers the Heritage auction had a bunch of keys: On the left is the Heritage Pence Price. On the right is the most recent GPA "cent" prices of the same comic or current 1 year average. After that is the percentage of the cent price that the pence price sold for. TOS39 7.5 ........$7768 ...$9560 ...81% DD 1 7.5 ...........$2031 ...$3663 ...56% ASM1 8.5 .........$16,730 $23,000 72% Avengers 1 7.5 $5736 ....$6865 ...84% Avengers 4 8.0 $1793 ....$3000 ...60% ST 110 8.0 .......$5497 ....$7433 ...74% FF 5 7.0 ...........$2390 ....$4000 ...58% ASM 14 8.0 .....$1434.... $2280 ...63% 2 of the keys went for over 80% 2 of the keys were between 70-80% 2 of the keys were between 60-70% 2 of the keys were between 55-60% The average percentage of these 8 keys (as relating to cent values) was basically 70% (I rounded up slightly) I really think pence copies are getting good recognition right now and may continue to go up in price. Interesting analysis. Some of this information is based on very stale cents copies sales info though. This Heritage auction seemed to produce a few favourable results but for the most part I'm still seeing a pence to cents ratio in the 60% range on average (which is still up slightly from the 55% range from years past). -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 I think it was interesting that there were so many Pence copies that showed up in the auction. That in itself shows a growing interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mio Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I posted this in General but thought i should post it here too. For all of you Pence lovers the Heritage auction had a bunch of keys: On the left is the Heritage Pence Price. On the right is the most recent GPA "cent" prices of the same comic or current 1 year average. After that is the percentage of the cent price that the pence price sold for. TOS39 7.5 ........$7768 ...$9560 ...81% DD 1 7.5 ...........$2031 ...$3663 ...56% ASM1 8.5 .........$16,730 $23,000 72% Avengers 1 7.5 $5736 ....$6865 ...84% Avengers 4 8.0 $1793 ....$3000 ...60% ST 110 8.0 .......$5497 ....$7433 ...74% FF 5 7.0 ...........$2390 ....$4000 ...58% ASM 14 8.0 .....$1434.... $2280 ...63% 2 of the keys went for over 80% 2 of the keys were between 70-80% 2 of the keys were between 60-70% 2 of the keys were between 55-60% The average percentage of these 8 keys (as relating to cent values) was basically 70% (I rounded up slightly) I really think pence copies are getting good recognition right now and may continue to go up in price. I have the same feeling they are very rare compared to the books printed in the U.S. But I do not see myself buying any just can't seem to get into them. Dude, pence copies were also printed in the US. On the same machines, at the same time. The only difference is the price on the cover. serling1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Does anyone who bought the new OSG know if Pristine Comics put their ad for Pence copies in again this year. Wen their ad came out last year I thought that was another pretty good indicator that Pence copies were starting to be more recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwanUK Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Does anyone who bought the new OSG know if Pristine Comics put their ad for Pence copies in again this year. Wen their ad came out last year I thought that was another pretty good indicator that Pence copies were starting to be more recognized. They did (pg 96) - and also comment - "UK copies need to be defined better... production estimated at... 1/50th" "I can envisage one day... UK copies exceeding US prices.... it is one of the very first price variants" They appear to be buying them up He notes from the census the compariative number graded ASM 1 2,900 / 42 = 1.4% AVG 1 2,800 / 58 = 2% IH 1 1,270 / 33 = 2.5% X-MEN 1 3,300 / 46 = 1.3% FF 1 1,700 / 10 = 0.5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I love Pence books. I'd personally rather have the Pence variants than the US versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Have we gone back to calling these "price variants" rather than simply the "foreign editions" that they are ? -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwanUK Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Have we gone back to calling these "price variants" rather than simply the "foreign editions" that they are ? -J. I was quoting from the Pristine Comics dealer report - he (assume also an American) used the term in his Overstreet report The fact remains however, they are literally a "price" variant. But am fine with "UK edition" as clearly I'm not foreign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Have we gone back to calling these "price variants" rather than simply the "foreign editions" that they are ? -J. I was quoting from the Pristine Comics dealer report - he (assume also an American) used the term in his Overstreet report The fact remains however, they are literally a "price" variant. But am fine with "UK edition" as clearly I'm not foreign Touche! -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) This subject needs a bump again. I just noticed a Hulk 1 Pence 7.5 sold for $40,157 on Sept 1 2016 Two Hulk 7.5 Cent copies have sold in 2016. They averaged $40,630 What's going on here? Is it finally happening??? Are Pence copies getting some "rarity respect"? The Hulk 7.5 pence was the highest graded copy so maybe it got a bump from that. There have only been 24 universal Hulk 1 pence copies graded by CGC. Compare that with 892 universal cent copies that have been graded. Has anyone noticed other Marvel Pence copies going for higher percentages recently? Edited October 31, 2016 by gadzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmtg9 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Wow, that must be the highest price paid for pence copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Wow, that must be the highest price paid for pence copy? As far as I can tell from going through GPA, yes that's the highest price ever paid for a Pence copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Here's a puzzling one..... 1 year ago this month a FF 1 6.5 Pence sold for $20,315. The 6.5 cent copies were averaging $12,328 last year. That's gotta be an outlier. Although it was the highest graded pence copy of FF1 so maybe that contributed to the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maraxusofkeld Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Here's a puzzling one..... 1 year ago this month a FF 1 6.5 Pence sold for $20,315. The 6.5 cent copies were averaging $12,328 last year. That's gotta be an outlier. Although it was the highest graded pence copy of FF1 so maybe that contributed to the price. Maybe people outside the USA view it like most of us do, and actually prefer the pence copy of the cents copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwanUK Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Evening did you all see those 2 beautiful original owner pence keys listed on ebay? both lovely books - and perhaps a record price on the ASM 1 ? ASM 1 pence TOS 39 pence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin.J Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Evening did you all see those 2 beautiful original owner pence keys listed on ebay? both lovely books - and perhaps a record price on the ASM 1 ? ASM 1 pence TOS 39 pence I asked a couple of times to see a better pic of the staples of the ASM as they looked suspect as either rusty or tampered with, the TOS were rusty. I never received a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Have we gone back to calling these "price variants" rather than simply the "foreign editions" that they are ? -J. I was quoting from the Pristine Comics dealer report - he (assume also an American) used the term in his Overstreet report The fact remains however, they are literally a "price" variant. But am fine with "UK edition" as clearly I'm not foreign Touche! -J. Agree with you Jaydog - these are indeed "foreign editions" and not "price variants". They weren't sold in the same country and weren't priced in the same currency. Edited January 16, 2017 by pemart1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin.J Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Have we gone back to calling these "price variants" rather than simply the "foreign editions" that they are ? -J. I was quoting from the Pristine Comics dealer report - he (assume also an American) used the term in his Overstreet report The fact remains however, they are literally a "price" variant. But am fine with "UK edition" as clearly I'm not foreign Touche! -J. Agree with you Jaydog - these are indeed "foreign editions" and not "price variants". They weren't sold in the same country and weren't priced in the same currency. Whatever, the fact remain they ARE American comics priced for the UK market. UK editions are generally reprints printed in the UK for the UK market, learning the difference may help you to understand, if you don't care either way then stop posting about it and spreading mis-information which is half of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...