Jedi, Sith, and absolutes

[Ijiwaru Sensei]

This is really getting into the minutiae, but I’m a bit puzzled by one part of the dialogue that some seem to be making a great deal about.

 

Obi-wan says that only the Sith think in absolutes. This assertion seems oddly contradictory to the rest of the film as it is the Jedi who make the clearest distinctions between good and evil, and it’s Palpatine himself who argues that the Sith way is more open to all facets of the Force. If anything, it’s the Jedi who think in black and white, not the Sith. Or am I missing the actual point?

[Aces]

Everybody thinks in absolutes!

 

Some people just absolutely won't admit it.

 

Think about it.

 

"There are no absolutes."

Isn't that an absolute?

[Ijiwaru Sensei]

Everybody thinks in absolutes!

 

Some people just absolutely won't admit it.

 

Think about it.

 

"There are no absolutes."

Isn't that an absolute?

 

You're absolutely right.

[ninanina]

They were discussing whether Anikin could return from the darkside. Obiwan said it's not too late, and Anikin said it's not possible. ie...."absolute"ly, positively no way can I get out or do I want to get away from the dark side.

 

This wasn't a distinction between good and evil, just a discussion on the posibilities that one could or could not return from the darkside.

 

Anikin said no, Obiwan disagreed with it by stating "only the Sith think in absolutes.

[sterlingcomics]

This movie was great because it did make me think...the subtle manner in which Palpatine spread his "truth" to a confused Skywalker for instance...

[Larryw7]

Yes, the Jedi have absolutes as well. Yoda says, "Destroy the Sith we MUST!" He doesn't say "Study the Sith we will. Understand why they hate us we must!". So there are some contradictions, and that's probably why the Jedi are so screwed by Palpatine. They don't understand what they are supposed to be doing themselves.

 

I loved the movie. My favorite SW film since EMPIRE, and a good piece of filmmaking in its own right.

[BradleyX2]

Yes, the Jedi have absolutes as well.

 

 

"DO... or do not. There is no 'try' ".