PGM: ASM 129 - Faded - Grade is in! 1 1

[YouFoundDonon]

Bought this for very low priced at a local comic shop. Obviously faded comic -- but otherwise very crisp edges, staples are mint, no blotches...creases....only negative is of course the obvious fading of the front color. 

Edited October 12, 2017 by YouFoundDonon

[YouFoundDonon]

Anyone's thoughts on what fading does? I've heard different stories where it cripples the book -- or if it normally was a 8.5+, it comes back a 5.0. 

[jevlnuts]

I also am interested in seeing what a more experienced eye has to say about this. This level of fading is fairly significant, not sure how this would grade out though.

[Point Five]

I'll throw out a guess of 4.5. Nice score anyway!

[Bomber-Bob]

I hate it when the LCS keeps a nice book like this open to light and it fades. Unfortunately, it is a very bad flaw and will probably be hammered by CGC. I've never submitted a book like this, with full cover fade, so it's difficult to say but maybe it can stay in the midgrade range ? If the rest of the book is 9.4/9.6 I would hope it stays in the 6.0 range.

[ADAMANTIUM]

I assume you're sending it in, I'll take a guess at 7.0

[YouFoundDonon]

Thanks guys, it looks like 4.5-7.0 is the range we are "hoping" for. I paid $200 for the book at a shop, so I will more than happy with anything over 5.0. Going to send it out tomorrow and will promise to update when I get it graded. 

[silverweb]

It pains me to see this happen to a cover. Maybe 5.0, who knows. Good luck!

[Glassman10]

15 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said:

I hate it when the LCS keeps a nice book like this open to light and it fades. Unfortunately, it is a very bad flaw and will probably be hammered by CGC. I've never submitted a book like this, with full cover fade, so it's difficult to say but maybe it can stay in the midgrade range ? If the rest of the book is 9.4/9.6 I would hope it stays in the 6.0 range.

What I don't get is why then is it faded on both the front and the back? Did they flip it every other day?

[YouFoundDonon]

Back is actually in nice condition, might be my phone but it has good quality. 

[Bomber-Bob]

2 hours ago, YouFoundDonon said:

Thanks guys, it looks like 4.5-7.0 is the range we are "hoping" for. I paid $200 for the book at a shop, so I will more than happy with anything over 5.0. Going to send it out tomorrow and will promise to update when I get it graded. 

The more I think about it, I'm going with an official guess of 7.0 . I do think that is the highest grade it can get though. Good luck !  

[Point Five]

I'll be curious to see the result. Just as one data point, I dimly remember a CGC 4.0 X-Men 94 shown here many years back that was downgraded for a severe front cover fade... in my mind the book was pretty tight other than the fade. Anyone else remember that one?

If I'm entirely honest, for me $200 doesn't feel that far under the 'right' price to pay for the #129. I would tend to value a book with heavy fade more like a G to GVG... though who knows, red hot book as always and the market could well say otherwise.

[jsilverjanet]

I subbed a Hulk 340 that I thought was in 9.6/9.8 range but was heavily faded on the front cover. Book came back 7.0.

[jsilverjanet]

[silverweb]

that HUlk 340 does not  have the same degree of fading as the ASM 129

[jsilverjanet]

1 hour ago, silverweb said:

that HUlk 340 does not  have the same degree of fading as the ASM 129

And yet the notes say "heavy fade front cover" 

[poppy73]

I'm going to guess a 6.5 - 7.0. I've never graded a book as heavily faded so if you send it in for grading, please update the boards once it's returned. Good luck!

[YouFoundDonon]

Fast track sent to CGC, I will update as soon as I have it back!

[1Cool]

If Hectors was a 7.0 then I'm going 4.5 for the ASM

[rjpb]

CGC is probably more forgiving than I would be with heavy fading. I suspect it will come at least 5.0, but to me it's such a major eye-appeal killer that I have a hard time thinking of it being worthy of that sort of grade.