batman_fan Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Cat-Man_America said: I usually discount D.C. estimated values 30% or more before bidding. I hope you are right given the large number of high grade Batman's up right now. 30% off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Just now, batman_fan said: 3 minutes ago, Cat-Man_America said: I usually discount D.C. estimated values 30% or more before bidding. I hope you are right given the large number of high grade Batman's up right now. 30% off +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: It wasn’t that long ago this would go for multiples Mr B has an uncanny knack for snagging some sweet high grade DC books at some amazing prices. Rich didn't you snag some Church Adventures cheap several years back? (I am old and my memory is definitely faulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lou_fine Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, batman_fan said: 1 hour ago, Cat-Man_America said: I usually discount D.C. estimated values 30% or more before bidding. I hope you are right given the large number of high grade Batman's up right now. 30% off Unfortunately (or fortunately depending upon your point of view), this malaise in prices is generally limited to the 2nd tier DC GA books, with the Adventure run being a classic example where the majority of them tends to sell at only a discount to guide. You also tend to see the same thing with the other 2nd tier runs like Leading, Comic Cavalcade, Worlds's Finest, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 hours ago, batman_fan said: Mr B has an uncanny knack for snagging some sweet high grade DC books at some amazing prices. Rich didn't you snag some Church Adventures cheap several years back? (I am old and my memory is definitely faulty). Mr B has an uncanny knack for snagging great books, period. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be a resealable can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 8 hours ago, batman_fan said: 8 hours ago, MrBedrock said: You must not have been thinking of it too hard...it went for 70% of guide! Especially when you consider it is a Dyson Vacuum prototype cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 14 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: It wasn’t that long ago this would go for multiples Not sure what your definition of "not long ago" is, but with the exception of the Church copy that sold for 2.5x guide, I'm not sure you can find an example of an Adventure 72 that ever sold for guide in the Heritage archives, let alone multiples - regardless of grade. That's 17 years of sales below guide. Even at the Gary Keller buying peak in 2007 the 9.2 copy he purchased went for 10% below guide, and when it resold in 2010 it brought less than 1/3 guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 12 hours ago, tth2 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Crowzilla said: Not sure what your definition of "not long ago" is, but with the exception of the Church copy that sold for 2.5x guide, I'm not sure you can find an example of an Adventure 72 that ever sold for guide in the Heritage archives, let alone multiples - regardless of grade. That's 17 years of sales below guide. Even at the Gary Keller buying peak in 2007 the 9.2 copy he purchased went for 10% below guide, and when it resold in 2010 it brought less than 1/3 guide. When I last exited the hobby, it was the year 1997. The book was hot then. Now that I put a year to it, I must be old. Thanks for that Edited May 22, 2019 by GreatCaesarsGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarristerBaker Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/21/2019 at 9:15 PM, lou_fine said: Unfortunately (or fortunately depending upon your point of view), this malaise in prices is generally limited to the 2nd tier DC GA books, with the Adventure run being a classic example where the majority of them tends to sell at only a discount to guide. You also tend to see the same thing with the other 2nd tier runs like Leading, Comic Cavalcade, Worlds's Finest, etc. Cavalcades aren’t “hot” by any stretch, but they aren’t as cheap as they once were. Have bounced a bit in the last 12-18 mos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Crowzilla said: Not sure what your definition of "not long ago" is, but with the exception of the Church copy that sold for 2.5x guide, I'm not sure you can find an example of an Adventure 72 that ever sold for guide in the Heritage archives, let alone multiples - regardless of grade. That's 17 years of sales below guide. Even at the Gary Keller buying peak in 2007 the 9.2 copy he purchased went for 10% below guide, and when it resold in 2010 it brought less than 1/3 guide. That's pretty incredible. Is there any other GA book where 9.2 Guide is so far ahead of reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/21/2019 at 9:15 PM, lou_fine said: Unfortunately (or fortunately depending upon your point of view), this malaise in prices is generally limited to the 2nd tier DC GA books, with the Adventure run being a classic example where the majority of them tends to sell at only a discount to guide. You also tend to see the same thing with the other 2nd tier runs like Leading, Comic Cavalcade, Worlds's Finest, etc. FTR, I did come very close to bidding on the Adventure #72, but that was the first of ten books I was tracking and resources were focused. Even though I don't collect many DCs, my love is great art, so Adventure Comics with Burnley and S&K covers do get my attention. That said, Richard probably would've won it anyway ( ), only at a higher hammer price since I wasn't prepared to bid Guide for it. Those who wanna go full monte against Mr B in an auction, do so at their own risk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/21/2019 at 7:03 PM, MrBedrock said: You must not have been thinking of it too hard...it went for 70% of guide! For me, it would equate to 70% of my total savings Those are great books, RE. Heavy congrats! MrBedrock and Cat-Man_America 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 12 hours ago, tth2 said: That's pretty incredible. Is there any other GA book where 9.2 Guide is so far ahead of reality? Are there any other GA "keys" that guide in 9.2 for exactly the same as they did a dozen years ago (and have actually gone down in all other grades)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Cat-Man_America said: FTR, I did come very close to bidding on the Adventure #72, but that was the first of ten books I was tracking and resources were focused. Even though I don't collect many DCs, my love is great art, so Adventure Comics with Burnley and S&K covers do get my attention. That said, Richard probably would've won it anyway ( ), only at a higher hammer price since I wasn't prepared to bid Guide for it. Those who wanna go full monte against Mr B in an auction, do so at their own risk! I wasn't going any higher. 9 was my limit and I struggled with that last bid. As has already been made clear in this thread by folks much more eloquent than me - Adventure 72 is the most over priced book in the guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: I wasn't going any higher. 9 was my limit and I struggled with that last bid. As has already been made clear in this thread by folks much more eloquent than me - Adventure 72 is the most over priced book in the guide. My crystal ball was cloudy on where that copy of Adventure 72 would end up. From close examination of the scans it appeared this book had been disassembled & reassembled, perhaps more than once. While not a deal breaker, wear around the staples gave me pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, Cat-Man_America said: From close examination of the scans it appeared this book had been disassembled & reassembled, perhaps more than once. While not a deal breaker, wear around the staples gave me pause. What are you talking about? You can really tell all of that from a scan? If so you are the most amazing dude I have ever met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: 34 minutes ago, Cat-Man_America said: From close examination of the scans it appeared this book had been disassembled & reassembled, perhaps more than once. While not a deal breaker, wear around the staples gave me pause. What are you talking about? You can really tell all of that from a scan? If so you are the most amazing dude I have ever met. And Costanza took it into the bathroom. Crowzilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, adamstrange said: And Costanza took it into the bathroom. Did he wash his hands or wear gloves? Please dear lord in the heavens above tell me he did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...