lobrac Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 When bad art gets worse: https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/-ayers-ghost-rider-4-story-page-9-sting-ray-original-art-marvel-1967-/a/7209-94038.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417 https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/-ayers-and-vince-colletta-ghost-rider-4-story-page-9-sting-ray-original-art-marvel-1967-/a/7212-95026.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, lobrac said: When bad art gets worse: https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/-ayers-ghost-rider-4-story-page-9-sting-ray-original-art-marvel-1967-/a/7209-94038.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417 https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/-ayers-and-vince-colletta-ghost-rider-4-story-page-9-sting-ray-original-art-marvel-1967-/a/7212-95026.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 Adding a credit to Vinnie Colletta dropped the value by more than 50%..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 13 hours ago, batman_fan said: This was my favorite in the auction. Once it crossed $25k I was out. It is a great piece but what a strong price. I feel sorry for the guy who sat next to me on the plane as I didn't have time to put on a fresh depends for the flight I feel sorry for Mrs. Grapeape as I was monitoring the auction on my I phone on the 405. From the passenger seat In slow moving traffic. i did blame the dog .... the dancing dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo M Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, GreatEscape said: Fixed that for you Carlo! I lost out on Page 6 (all panels) when it sold for $11k (Heritage) in May, so I'm thrilled to get this 1/2 splash for much less. I stand corrected! I did not check the image again and was going by memory! agreed it is a great page and it has the shield effect of cinematic fame! Take it ouf my list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, delekkerste said: Riiiight, because all of the strips in this auction were inferior examples and the previous auctions were all great content. Nope, sorry, stop digging guys. There's certainly no kind of quality gap that would explain why your price expectations were stuck in 2013. okay Gene, you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, grapeape said: I feel sorry for Mrs. Grapeape as I was monitoring the auction on my I phone on the 405. From the passenger seat In slow moving traffic. i did blame the dog .... the dancing dog. Did you win it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Timely said: I'd agree. A Charlie Brown/Snoopy strip will outperform a Linus strip all day every day. It's like saying the cover to ASM #22 and #23 are worth the same because they came out a month apart! Apples and oranges! There's no recent evidence of late '60s and '70s strips being more valuable than '50s and early '60s. There's no evidence of prices having taken a big leap up in this sale. There's really not much in the way of price anomalies in the recent data that would require explaining away due to quality/content differences - the reality is that Peanuts prices took a big leap up earlier this year and have remained at these kinds of similarly (high) levels for the past 9 months or so. For clarification, the "Implied price @ 30% and @ 50% over" columns reflect the prices where expectations would have been pre-auction, if we thought that the realized prices actually were 30-50% above expectations. Edited November 23, 2019 by delekkerste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayzen Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 How about the two sales for Amanda Conner covers. $5k and almost $8k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, batman_fan said: Did you win it? No I wouldn’t bid against you buddy. Not without squaring it with ya first. A nice strip with at least one Snoopy is on my long list of wants though. that one did make me smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I have been watching today's bidding. Am I wrong, but are prices low today? I bought something, and I feel I stole it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud cloddie Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, Rick2you2 said: I have been watching today's bidding. Am I wrong, but are prices low today? I bought something, and I feel I stole it. There’s some stuff I was interested in today, but I’m traveling and didn’t care enough to focus on them. They def went lower than I thought they would. Who knows if id have won, but I would have at least threw in some punishment bids. 4 days of auctions is a little much for me. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, cloud cloddie said: There’s some stuff I was interested in today, but I’m traveling and didn’t care enough to focus on them. They def went lower than I thought they would. Who knows if id have won, but I would have at least threw in some punishment bids. 4 days of auctions is a little much for me. Punishment bids ruin true FMV......and Comps... signed... IVE DONE IT TOO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I had 4 items that ended today that should have hammered between $5000-6000. They hammered at $3600 so I actually lost money. This is why I rarely do auctions! AnkurJ, delekkerste, Twanj and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, grapeape said: No I wouldn’t bid against you buddy. Not without squaring it with ya first. A nice strip with at least one Snoopy is on my long list of wants though. that one did make me smile It was a great one. I was hoping $18k but willing to go up to $25k but got blown away. It was a pretty good on although the images weren’t huge. grapeape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, grapeape said: Punishment bids ruin true FMV......and Comps... signed... IVE DONE IT TOO. Why do it at all? Besides, an engaged bidder may drop out on you, leaving you with the highest bidder status. thethedew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, Timely said: I had 4 items that ended today that should have hammered between $5000-6000. They hammered at $3600 so I actually lost money. This is why I rarely do auctions! That sucks. I have around 50 GA Batman and Detective dupes I plan to sell next year but price softness makes me nervous to auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Timely said: I'd agree. A Charlie Brown/Snoopy strip will outperform a Linus strip all day every day. It's like saying the cover to ASM #22 and #23 are worth the same because they came out a month apart! Apples and oranges! ASM 22 is earlier so it should be worth more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rick2you2 said: Why do it at all? Besides, an engaged bidder may drop out on you, leaving you with the highest bidder status. Never place a bid if you don’t mean it. Even if it’s to “punish” the eventual winner. That being said, happens all the time. Only each bidder knows what motivates them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Bill C said: Plus, it has more characters on the cover. 22 and 23 share the distinction of being the only 2 covers with the uncropped spider-man logo. (for the uber nerds out there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Bill C said: Whoever won the Novick bronze Flash splash, I hope you can recover financially in time for the kid's X-Mas gifts (it went for $132 with the BP) Egads! Poor poor consignor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
