Varanis Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I post everything to CAF. I feel like sharing is a big part of the fun of the hobby. I get why folks don't though. As illogical as it is, a piece's value gets "shelf wear" the longer it's public, even if it's not for sale. We all want that mysterious piece that's been secret for years and that mystery will demand a premium. Also makes sense for the folks that just don't want to be tempted by offers or have pieces that attract a lot of low ball offers. The Voord and grapeape 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, batman_fan said: The biggest problem I have with posting my collection on Facebook is you have to have a Facebook account. Yes effacebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephisto Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I used to have about 90% of everything I own up there but pretty much took all my stuff down. I just don’t care. The main motivator having stuff up was to potentially get more eyes on my want list and the type of pieces I am interested in. I haven’t had all that much stuff I am interested in although it’s happened it’s been about 5 years. A lot of the time CAF just comes off as a giant stroke fest. I only reactivated it recently because someone who pays well for pieces and is not a clown asked about buying pieces. I just realized my stuff was active again today after getting a email from someone this morning so I just deleted the email and deactivated the galleries. As mentioned the Facebook groups and other things like Instagram have taken a chunk out of CAF. Although I am in one of the Facebook groups I don’t particularly care for that venue either and don’t post that frequently in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, The Voord said: I post everything I have on CAF. Sometimes I've regretted a few things that I got tempted into parting with, but as I prefer to share have learned to live with past mistakes. Within three minutes of posting my recently acquired Ditko ASM splash I had a PM from someone wanting me to sell it to him. This is despite a NFS description and a lengthy write-up talking about how happy I was to have landed the art. I ended-up revising the NFS status to something worded a little stronger. NFS NEVER FREAKING SELL Rick2you2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aokartman Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, grapeape said: NFS NEVER FREAKING SELL Another one that works...In The Vault...it sends the message that you are not entertaining offers. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, The Voord said: I post everything I have on CAF. Sometimes I've regretted a few things that I got tempted into parting with, but as I prefer to share have learned to live with past mistakes. Within three minutes of posting my recently acquired Ditko ASM splash I had a PM from someone wanting me to sell it to him. This is despite a NFS description and a lengthy write-up talking about how happy I was to have landed the art. I ended-up revising the NFS status to something worded a little stronger. So you're saying there's a chance! mister_not_so_nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glendgold Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 When CAF was young, I posted pretty much everything, thinking, "Wow, anyone anywhere can see this." Recently, given how the internet has grown up, I thought, "Wow, anyone anywhere can see this," and I took it all down. Mighty Hal, Twanj, John E. and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glendgold Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Also: it's peculiar how well taking stuff down works. A few friends, long time collectors, have asked me where certain pieces are, and I've said "Don't you remember - they're in X's collection, and he had them posted until a couple years ago." Nope. I can't comprehend how people feel fine relying on their their documents, music and photos being in the cloud when they're doing the same with their memories. Edited December 18, 2019 by glendgold Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timely Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 With the exception of 1 rather popular Spider-Man artist, I post all my art. Why? 1. Guess who's CAF room I visit the most? Mine! I like all my art and like seeing it! It's easy to access and show anyone my collection. 2. Sometimes exposure is a GOOD thing! I've made a few really good sales that I would not have made had my collection gone dark. 3. When I'm interested in someone else's art and they see I have a CAF room with decent art, they are more apt to reply to my emails. 4. It's fun! At least for me anyway. RabidFerret, Sideshow Bob, davidtere and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkurJ Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 When I receive interest in a piece I’ve no plans to sell, I just give a crazy high price. Usually never hear back Unstoppablejayd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unstoppablejayd Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Timely said: With the exception of 1 rather popular Spider-Man artist, I post all my art. Why? 1. Guess who's CAF room I visit the most? Mine! I like all my art and like seeing it! It's easy to access and show anyone my collection. 2. Sometimes exposure is a GOOD thing! I've made a few really good sales that I would not have made had my collection gone dark. 3. When I'm interested in someone else's art and they see I have a CAF room with decent art, they are more apt to reply to my emails. 4. It's fun! At least for me anyway. I agree with all of this...I visit my room more then my portfolios...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurstisart Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I started a similar post a while ago, I called it the black hole, but apparent was misunderstood. For years now I notice that most big ticket items, even average items disappear after they are being auctioned off. I mean there are 600 items in an auction and how many show up afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo M Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Interesting that people mention the nuisance of getting offers as a third reason for not posting (in addition to security and resale value). I am not bothered at all when I get an inquiry emails. It only takes about 10 seconds to respond and people do get it if an item is not for sale. In fairness, on a few occasions I decided to sell at very attractive prices. And I have myself made offers that were accepted through CAF, even though I do it less and less frequently these days. I totally second that it would be much better if there were fewer soft porn submissions, but freedom of expression has to prevail, I guess. Net net I like to post. I like figuring out an intro that describes how I feel about the piece. I like receiving and posting comments and it does make me feel part of a community. And as a Europe-based collector, it was important to post my collection to have credibility in dealing with other collectors. I have also established some nice dialogues over the years and that would not have been possible without being transparent on my collection. So I will continue posting, even though on a couple of pieces the resale value argument is winning... Carlo Carl Elvis, alxjhnsn, John E. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 hours ago, The Voord said: I ended-up revising the NFS status to something worded a little stronger. NFFS. Rick2you2 and John E. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) I don’t really bother with CAF much anymore. If I want to look at my art, I pull my portfolio out and look at it! Why would I do it on a small LCD monitor instead? And, I don’t have the kind of collection that gets offers. Facebook is better for sharing only because you are more likely to get feedback from people who don’t even know your CAF gallery exists. Posting new art on CAF is like pouring a bucket of water into the Niagara Falls. As for cataloguing my art, yes, I have scans of all my art in a photos folder on my phone. I also have a folder of my scanned art on my laptop for record keeping and insurance purposes. The process for posting art on CAF is too cumbersome. And you have to pay for the privilege of doing it. Someone is going to come along with an App at some point that makes the process a lot easier. Edited December 18, 2019 by PhilipB2k17 The Voord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voord Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PhilipB2k17 said: I don’t really bother with CAF much anymore. If I want to look at my art, I pull my portfolio out and look at it! Why would I do it on a small LCD monitor instead? And, I don’t have the kind of collection that gets offers. Facebook is better for sharing only because you are more likely to get feedback from people who don’t even know your CAF gallery exists. Posting new art on CAF is like pouring a bucket of water into the Niagara Falls. As for cataloguing my art, yes, I have scans of all my art in a photos folder on my phone. I also have a folder of my scanned art on my laptop for record keeping and insurance purposes. The process for posting art on CAF is too cumbersome. And you have to pay for the privilege of doing it. Someone is going to come along with an App at some point that makes the process a lot easier. No, you don't have to pay to post your stuff on CAF, premium membership is merely an option. Problem, for me, is that CAF has been swamped over the years with too much drek (amateurish fan-boy art and sexy drawings that look anything but for the most part), that it's become difficult to trawl through to get to the good stuff. I rarely look at daily updates, preferring to search for artists that appeal to me . . . or I keep an eye out for updates from those collectors who have shared interests. I took out a premium membership a while back. Not that it was really needed, but I'd done well over the years selling art as well as collecting - so I figured the least I could do is take out a yearly subscription by way of a small thank you. CAF is also a good way for me to keep a pictorial record of art I'd parted with over the years. I have a de-activated 'SOLD' gallery that only I can see, though sometimes it can be painful for me to look back on. Edited December 18, 2019 by The Voord Rick2you2 and Sideshow Bob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, wurstisart said: I started a similar post a while ago, I called it the black hole, but apparent was misunderstood. For years now I notice that most big ticket items, even average items disappear after they are being auctioned off. I mean there are 600 items in an auction and how many show up afterwards? Honestly, I prefer it if those items don’t show up. When I have been an underbidder, I feel like looking at someone else’s success is a reminder to me of what I missed. John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Rick2you2 said: Honestly, I prefer it if those items don’t show up. When I have been an underbidder, I feel like looking at someone else’s success is a reminder to me of what I missed. I find it interesting to see all these great trophy pieces, but I am never going to own any unless some of the art I currently own evolves into one in the next 15 years. Highly, highly unlikely, but not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbydarnit Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) THE benefit of CAF is posting your art and letting the community know your interest and collection's focus and build a reputation. For example - Brian Peck is the John Buscema man and also a Jean Grey fan, if I find a page from Bizarre Adventures where JB drew a Phoenix story, I would contact him to see what he would be willing to trade for it. Brian been around for years, active on boards so I have a good feeling things would go smoothly if we could arrive on a deal. Collectors that put themselves out there DO reap the benefits of being known as the guy who is a legit player and loves "artist X on ____ comic" He's the one to contact to raise money when you are chasing a page and need to raise money. So that is the good edge of a double edge sword. Those who take their stuff down, their collection focus and reputation slowly gets forgotten about, and who knows what they miss out on, when people are trying to find a home for their pages they are wishing to sell. Brian, no I don't have a page from that Bizarre Adventures issue... but if I did, you would know about it! Edited December 18, 2019 by gumbydarnit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...