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Tell us what you really think, Marnin!

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drice6900

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Just received his latest sales email, hot off the "press":

 

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Thank you, Marnin Rosenberg

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JiveTurkeyMoFo

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Asking ridiculous prices for raw high grade books (that may or may not grade out if certified) that are well above that of their CGC counterparts....dealer trend of the present and future?

 

His prices on those MASS FFs are out of this world...and the grading looks a little suspect....

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Red Hook

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Hey, disagreeing with a dealers pricing and grading is nothing new. What's fascinating to me is here you have a dealer of note, advertising and discussing some of the badly pressed books in his inventory. I hate to see good books mashed.........look at some of these....it's like a primer on what can go wrong. The guy is trying, and I give him full credit for that!

 

Strange Tales #88

 

This one is particularly objectionable! Ouch.....I cry for this book!

 

Strange Tales #94

 

Tales of Suspense #27

 

Take a look at these and tell me what you think.

 

Brad

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Hey, disagreeing with a dealers pricing and grading is nothing new. What's fascinating to me is here you have a dealer of note, advertising and discussing some of the badly pressed books in his inventory. I hate to see good books mashed.........look at some of these....it's like a primer on what can go wrong. The guy is trying, and I give him full credit for that!

 

Strange Tales #88

 

This one is particularly objectionable! Ouch.....I cry for this book!

 

Strange Tales #94

 

Tales of Suspense #27

 

Take a look at these and tell me what you think.

 

Brad

 

foreheadslap.gif Sure, and it's a bunch of decent pre-hero books that got butchered! Oh, the humanity!!!!

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Red Hook

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Well, I would think there could be more than one reason for the wave...but yeah, that seems to be at least an initial indication. Damn ugly isn't it!

 

I found a book in a slab on ebay this week with the same pattern, but grandpa here lost the link. Gotta look for it.

 

Brad

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Red Hook

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doh! Sure, and it's a bunch of decent pre-hero books that got butchered! Oh, the humanity!!!!

 

I'm sorry Steve....I should have warned you! I know you (like me) are very sensitive to pre-hero butchery! 893whatthe.gif

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Sal

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i'd like confirmation about that whole "waves at the spine seem to indicate pressing" theory.

 

anyone? bueller? bueller? buuuuuueeeeeelllllllerr? (sorry, that flick was on last weekend)

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OK, this might be a silly question as I don't really pay attention to pressing issues, but, if there is a wave pattern on the book, does this mean it could be pressed?

 

No, it is more likely caused by humidity/moisture damage. I got an Action 243 from Colmore Comics and an Action 242 from Metro that had waves like those -- they were from nice 50s DC collections that had been exposed to high humidity.

 

It would take a really poor pressing job to wind up with waves like that.

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OK, this might be a silly question as I don't really pay attention to pressing issues, but, if there is a wave pattern on the book, does this mean it could be pressed?

 

No, it is more likely caused by humidity/moisture damage. I got an Action 243 from Colmore Comics and an Action 242 from Metro that had waves like those -- they were from nice 50s DC collections that had been exposed to high humidity.

 

It would take a really poor pressing job to wind up with waves like that.

 

That's what I thought it was before I read this thread. Hmm, I wonder if I can have the waves removed? Anyone know any good pressing techniques?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I keed, I keed. angel.gif

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Red Hook

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OK, this might be a silly question as I don't really pay attention to pressing issues, but, if there is a wave pattern on the book, does this mean it could be pressed?

 

No, it is more likely caused by humidity/moisture damage. I got an Action 243 from Colmore Comics and an Action 242 from Metro that had waves like those -- they were from nice 50s DC collections that had been exposed to high humidity.

 

It would take a really poor pressing job to wind up with waves like that.

 

Exactly. You screw up a couple books before you get really good at it. Did you read Marnin's detailed explanations on the links I posted?

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Red Hook

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According to Marnin, it's not just the ripples, it's a number of characterstics.

 

 

THE THING PROTOTYPE ISSUE. Another PRESSED!! iHop! I believe you all should be able to very clearly see the contracted waves along the spine, the pressed out top overhang, and the flattened color-paper break creases at the bottom right hand corner, all on the front cover. Bookmark this scan as a model to determine just some of the many ways to spot all the non-disclosed amateur press jobs currently in your collections.

 

 

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Red Hook

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Is this caused by humidity? foreheadslap.gif

 

 

Yep. Another botched flatty. Obviously once a very nice Bethlehem copy, was literally a NM- copy with only a 2 1/2" paper-color break crease running vertically up along the base of the f/c spine, (a VF-.) Then the dope figured, "Daaa, I can press this out!" Then, while trying to accomplish this, Mr. Non-Skilled Pressing Genius probably crimped the entire back cover, causing a book length verticle paper break crease along the b/c spine, thus another childhood treasure forever butchered.

 

 

 

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