Krismusic Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 I saw this post this weekend as well, and saw the comments about gloves.. I never used gloves always wash and dry my hands so I understand that bare hands thing and don't see much of a problem; they should have told the customer to not place the water bottle on the table if it was the customers, it was capped and far away but still keep drinks on the floor or away from the table... the only thing I cringed at was the last few pages at the crease where you can see that crease bend more when he placed more pressure on it to flip the pages.. I get that its a pro handling it and they can move that fast with the experienced they have but if there is a video with tons of potential customers watching with at high value book maybe show a bit more caution or not post the video at all.. the video didn't help CGC in any way IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike's Rack Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 23 hours ago, fastballspecial said: I am sure someone got chewed for showing that video tape to a lot of seriously OCD people. That being said with a book that old I would have worn gloves too. In fact I wouldn't have shown that video at all. There was not an upside to it at all. I agree that the greatest error in judgement was posting this video on Facebook. What is the upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood1892 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 You can prevent the flu by washing your hands, why doesn't it apply to books mysterymachine and 1950's war comics 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 3/1/2020 at 7:42 AM, gadzukes said: Even if this is what he would do behind closed doors on a page count, he's doing this in front of potential customers so I believe he should have shown a little more of an appearance of "tender loving care". On 3/1/2020 at 8:38 AM, fastballspecial said: I am sure someone got chewed for showing that video tape to a lot of seriously OCD people. For all of the uber HG OCD collectors, have you ever considered the possibility that this video IS ALREADY showing them taking extra care with a high dollar value book? Especially when we can't see what they are doing behind closed doors when they are under the gun grading thousands of virtually worthless low dollar value books that just hit the shelves of the LCS's last week. aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 48 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said: You can prevent the flu by washing your hands, why doesn't it apply to books Maybe the book now has the Corona Virus! cmcfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Gojo pumice soap may be the best soap to use to handle comic books. Removes the dirt, oil, etc instantly. sd2416 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Hollywood1892 said: You can prevent the flu by washing your hands, why doesn't it apply to books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood1892 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, D84 said: Maybe the book now has the Corona Virus! Once it is in a CGC case it is quarantined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 here how I turn pages on hi dolla books: gadzukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Dark Knight said: Gojo pumice soap may be the best soap to use to handle comic books. Removes the dirt, oil, etc instantly. Thanks for the tip! Will look into it. Dark Knight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VintageComics Posted March 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2020 What I find interesting (and what I posted on CGCs social media) is all the stuff that people missed in that video. For one, the grader probably sees more books in a year than everyone else involved in the discussion together sees in a lifetime. They're professionals. Anything a pro does will look dangerous or difficult to understand as a novice. Joe Walsh said it takes 20,000 hours of practice to make someone a pro. Can any novice perform like a pro? No matter what the field is, that answer is a hard no. If you look at the way the pages are dropped into the back half of the book, it's quite gentle, just quick. Comics are quite hardy. They're not meant to be handled on the thighs of virgins and in a sterile environment. Did all of you notice how the grader slowed down several times in the video when pages were stuck together in order to unstick the pages? Everyone seemed to be missing that little detail. That's the sign of a professional - little things that the average Joe doesn't even think about (or catch while watching the video). Gloves? As explained by RMA (and the Library of Congress) you do NOT want to use gloves. Everyone wants the graders to slow down to half speed but do you all want to wait twice as long to have your comics graded? There was no damage done to the book. People just like to complain about things and some don't listen no matter how wrong they are. KryptoSpidey, cmcfan, Sludgesicle Man and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/1/2020 at 9:23 AM, shadroch said: I can't believe no one has come with a mechanical method of counting pages. If there was even a task that called out for robots, this is it. Pregraders count pages but they also grade the book. The entire book is inspected during the page count and a pregrade given so just a mechanical page count would be redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 CGC does have it's PR / perception problems and I've said this to them many times that they need someone to oversee their PR before things go public. It seems that they keep making the same mistakes over and over. I agree that slowing it down for the public video would probably have been a better move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedcake Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 11 hours ago, B2D327 said: You’d think a six figure book would be treated accordingly it was treated just fine cmcfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Since they said it was Matt, I'm sure he know what he's doing. He's been dealing with golden age books for over 20 years that I've know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, D84 said: Since they said it was Matt, I'm sure he know what he's doing. He's been dealing with golden age books for over 20 years that I've know of. +1 Agree with you 100%.............adding to both the top and bottom lines of their CCG parent by generating new business for CCS and repeat business for CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, VintageComics said: CGC does have it's PR / perception problems and I've said this to them many times that they need someone to oversee their PR before things go public. They already do in terms of your omniscient prescence here on the boards because you seem to speak on behalf of everything for CGC all the time. Edited March 3, 2020 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) I'm subscribed to ComicToms youtube channel (ComicTom posted the vid to facebook) ComicTom's youtube channel is great channel, check it out. I love how passionate Tom and all his guests are when talking comics. They tackle ALL topics, so I'm actually pretty shocked Tom hasn't addressed the fallout from the video he took on his youtube channel. I wonder if CGC asked him to keep any youtube discussion about this incident on the downlow. Or, maybe Tom will have a new video on this topic coming up really soon. I'd really like to hear Tom's comments. Perhaps he could help illuminate the moments before the video started.....maybe the Supe 1 was examined for weaknesses in the spine before the page count started, or any other illumination of prepagecount examination. Edited March 3, 2020 by gadzukes Krismusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Juno Beach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 you got to fight for your right to party..... parrrrrrrrrty Buzzetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...