G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 the only diff in mine, is I manually factored in "demand" as I have witnessed it, etc...more of a "feel" list 32 is really tough, but relative to demand, it is not as tough as 37 is...hence, in my list, 37 is "tougher" than 32... in Win's list, it is reveresed (though they are close) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 how about a "most desired" ranking? #1 most, #11 "least" This would be my order: 11. #34 10. #32 09. #30 08. #28 07. #36 06. #37 05. #33 04. #35 03. #29 02. #31 01. #27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Hate to jump in and disagree but from my personal experience, I have had 4 tec 37s in the last year and only 1 copy of 36. And there is a 37 on the Weiss auction as we speak. I still do not see a 36 for sale anywhere. that has been my experience too--I've seen more 37s than 36s, but I've only been in the Pre Robin hunt for 3 years...Gator has a much better feel for the scarcity... I have recorded 21 known sales of tec 36 in the last 8 years or so I have recorded 18 known sales of tec 37 in the last 8 years or so... even GPA shows 4 more tec 36 sales than 37 but keep in mind, it is close (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 how about a "most desired" ranking? #1 most, #11 "least" This would be my order: 11. #34 10. #32 09. #30 08. #28 07. #36 06. #37 05. #33 04. #35 03. #29 02. #31 01. #27 I can live with that...might switch 1 or 2 around on any given day, but pretty much "accepted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Man Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 how about a "most desired" ranking? #1 most, #11 "least" This would be my order: 11. #34 10. #32 09. #30 08. #28 07. #36 06. #37 05. #33 04. #35 03. #29 02. #31 01. #27 Nice! I fully agree with that list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentaurMan Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 the only diff in mine, is I manually factored in "demand" as I have witnessed it, etc...more of a "fee" list 32 is really tough, but relative to demand, it is not as tough as 37 is...hence, in my list, 37 is "tougher" than 32... in Win's list, it is reveresed (though they are close) Yeah, this list is no substitute for the knowledge of an expert who knows a market really well. But if you're getting into collecting a new title, or want to spot check the true scarcity of all Gerber 8's, or anything like that, it's a very easy way to get a hugely valuable piece of info, and all the data points you need (value in unrestored 2.0, number of copies on the census) are available readily. My Windex scarcity rankings have another factor which is harder to quickly collect (basically, a census of copies sold in public venues or currently available in inventory lists), but it's built on this principle. I'm never going to have time to complete it, so I figured I might as well publish the foundation of the methodology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Man Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 the only diff in mine, is I manually factored in "demand" as I have witnessed it, etc...more of a "fee" list 32 is really tough, but relative to demand, it is not as tough as 37 is...hence, in my list, 37 is "tougher" than 32... in Win's list, it is reveresed (though they are close) Yeah, this list is no substitute for the knowledge of an expert who knows a market really well. But if you're getting into collecting a new title, or want to spot check the true scarcity of all Gerber 8's, or anything like that, it's a very easy way to get a hugely valuable piece of info, and all the data points you need (value in unrestored 2.0, number of copies on the census) are available readily. My Windex scarcity rankings have another factor which is harder to quickly collect (basically, a census of copies sold in public venues or currently available in inventory lists), but it's built on this principle. I'm never going to have time to complete it, so I figured I might as well publish the foundation of the methodology. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 the only diff in mine, is I manually factored in "demand" as I have witnessed it, etc...more of a "feel" list 32 is really tough, but relative to demand, it is not as tough as 37 is...hence, in my list, 37 is "tougher" than 32... in Win's list, it is reveresed (though they are close) Yeah, this list is no substitute for the knowledge of an expert who knows a market really well. But if you're getting into collecting a new title, or want to spot check the true scarcity of all Gerber 8's, or anything like that, it's a very easy way to get a hugely valuable piece of info, and all the data points you need (value in unrestored 2.0, number of copies on the census) are available readily. My Windex scarcity rankings have another factor which is harder to quickly collect (basically, a census of copies sold in public venues or currently available in inventory lists), but it's built on this principle. I'm never going to have time to complete it, so I figured I might as well publish the foundation of the methodology. quite honestly, I consider it ground breaking... and a wonderful tool ..nice to know "how" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentaurMan Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 how about a "most desired" ranking? If "most desired" amongst the collecting community isn't the same as "highest priced", then prices are fixing to change soon. Price will always properly sort based on desire, given enough time. Now, it's got to be a broad-based group of collectors to permanently move price. Just because we experts don't like 'Tec 38 doesn't mean it isn't highly desired amongst a broad group of collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannis Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Pehaps this could be true but for some strange reason I have had the same type of luck as primetime. More 37s came my way than 36s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Pehaps this could be true but for some strange reason I have had the same type of luck as primetime. More 37s came my way than 36s. I have found many books to be cyclical... I remember in 2005/6, I found like 10 copies of 29 and 31, but could only find 1 copy of 37 and maybe 2 of 36... last year to 2, 29 was really tough (as was 31) but a bunch of 36's were available ...this past year, 37 is "out there"...next year, maybe 33 again...who knows...fun though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannis Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Pehaps this could be true but for some strange reason I have had the same type of luck as primetime. More 37s came my way than 36s. I have found many books to be cyclical... I remember in 2005/6, I found like 10 copies of 29 and 31, but could only find 1 copy of 37 and maybe 2 of 36... last year to 2, 29 was really tough (as was 31) but a bunch of 36's were available ...this past year, 37 is "out there"...next year, maybe 33 again...who knows...fun though i am going to lose it soon with all these numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 3-4 years ago, maybe 5 copies of 35 hit at once... so, it goes in cycles...and many of these books change hands privately too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Pehaps this could be true but for some strange reason I have had the same type of luck as primetime. More 37s came my way than 36s. I have found many books to be cyclical... I remember in 2005/6, I found like 10 copies of 29 and 31, but could only find 1 copy of 37 and maybe 2 of 36... last year to 2, 29 was really tough (as was 31) but a bunch of 36's were available ...this past year, 37 is "out there"...next year, maybe 33 again...who knows...fun though i am going to lose it soon with all these numbers just ignore them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Man Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 3-4 years ago, maybe 5 copies of 35 hit at once... so, it goes in cycles...and many of these books change hands privately too.... Very interesting. And since there are only a given number total of each out there. It will always be more random when a lot of any issue is for sale at one time. All depends on when a collector sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannis Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 it seems that when 1 issue gets hot it chnages the census. The 29 seems to not be around this year and yet so many 31s now. And the 37s popping up all around. I have had 3 copies of the 32 this last year as well. And now you tell me its a tough issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 how about a "most desired" ranking? If "most desired" amongst the collecting community isn't the same as "highest priced", then prices are fixing to change soon. Price will always properly sort based on desire, given enough time. Now, it's got to be a broad-based group of collectors to permanently move price. Just because we experts don't like 'Tec 38 doesn't mean it isn't highly desired amongst a broad group of collectors. Win, it's nice to see you posting. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannis Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 3-4 years ago, maybe 5 copies of 35 hit at once... so, it goes in cycles...and many of these books change hands privately too.... True here, I just recently landed my 2nd copy of 35 within the year. No one really knows how many private deals go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentaurMan Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 For kicks, someone do this exercise for Action 1-50. You'll see some interesting things pop out, like the toughness of #49 & #46 vs the easiness of #30 & #47, for instance. Really fun to have a full notebook of thousands of books like this. You can set eBay screens for the tough stuff, rejigger your bartering, cull your collection, etc., without being a multi-decade collecting expert on the sub-series on which you're compiling data. Remember, it's not only ok to do this across titles and publishers, it's encouraged. That's how to get your sample size large enough to matter. What the difference in scarcity between Silver Streak #1, Wonder Comics (1939) #1, and King Comics #1? You can figure it out, with thousands of different issues in your spreadsheet. Excel will do all the calculations for you if you know the formulas, so you don't have to redo the rankings by hand after entering another hundred books. Stick to unrestored 2.0 as your pricing grade, as you're much more likely to find that data, and as the pricing curve in higher grades accelerates similarly on all but a few books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 32 was the toughest issue for me...I had already had multiple issues of all the others, except 32...for almost 2 years not one was on the public market for sale (this was 2005/6)... then, I WAY overpaid for a 3.0 in heritage, just to nail the run down (and someone else was having the same trouble I was, as we battled it up thousands more than it should have gone)... that next year, there were a lot of copies on the market (maybe the price brought them out).... so yes, all runs in cycles... and you are right about 31's, I have/have had 5 copies in the past 2 weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
