Popular Post bellrules Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 Here’s something fun I discovered (with fellow Whitman collectors) over the years of collecting the Whitman books. There are some error price variants from the Jan 1981 issues that made it out into the wild. Not sure if they changed the plates to 50 cents (from 40 cents) mid-run when they realized the mistake, or they just decided to print more of those issues at a later date. Here are some examples, sealed and loose. Issues found to have these variants (so far) are as follows: Bugs Bunny 223 Donald Duck 225 Huey,Dewey and Louie 67 Little Lulu 262 Pink Panther 78 (I’ve rarely seen any copies of this one) Super Goof 63 Uncle Scrooge 182 Walt Disney Comics and Stories 484 steveinthecity, OtherEric, mec3437 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 @bellrules, in addition to the price variants around this time, are any issues known to have been printed without a price at all other than the Buck Rogers #9? And does anybody know if copies of the BR #9 exist with a price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 hours ago, OtherEric said: @bellrules, in addition to the price variants around this time, are any issues known to have been printed without a price at all other than the Buck Rogers #9? And does anybody know if copies of the BR #9 exist with a price? I’ve never seen one OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/27/2020 at 1:24 AM, bellrules said: On a side note, you don’t already own a copy of this book? I don't quite have a complete DC Whitman set, though I have multiples of most issues. since I switched about 6 years ago from going after raws to going after a graded set. For New Adventures of Superboy #6, I have a single copy in about FN 6.0... I typically will throw in bids on additional copies of the big 8 books, but not necessarily at full value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 17 hours ago, bellrules said: Here’s something fun I discovered (with fellow Whitman collectors) over the years of collecting the Whitman books. There are some error price variants from the Jan 1981 issues that made it out into the wild. Not sure if they changed the plates to 50 cents (from 40 cents) mid-run when they realized the mistake, or they just decided to print more of those issues at a later date. These are awesome... which are more difficult to find, the 40 cent or 50 cent editions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, OtherEric said: @bellrules, in addition to the price variants around this time, are any issues known to have been printed without a price at all other than the Buck Rogers #9? And does anybody know if copies of the BR #9 exist with a price? I've never seen one either... Since #8 had a 40 cent cover, and #11 had a 50 cent cover (and #10 was never published?), this would fall into the same period of confusion and timeframe as the price variants that @bellrules mentioned. Somehow, this seems typical of this era of Whitman, and (to me at least) just adds to the desirability... Edited December 28, 2020 by Brock OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Those Superboy 6's are awesome. I still think all the big 8 are very underrated. Is there any reason to believe there would be less DCCP 22 out there than any other issue? Surely it was packed with something else. I tend to think it just doesn't look different enough and went unnoticed by those who didn't buy the packs themselves. But I also know for a while, Whitman variants were seen as a lesser version so you'd think the more obvious variants would have had the harder lifetime. Mycomicshop has no image of a Superboy 6 Whitman on their page, which is saying something, considering their tremendous stock. bellrules and Brock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Brock said: These are awesome... which are more difficult to find, the 40 cent or 50 cent editions? The 40 cent versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Spotted this in my inbox this morning. Can’t find the sale on EBay but it’s quite impressive. I think this is the rarest of the Whitmans. You really don’t see it very often. That price might change that. (On a side note, it drives me crazy that they say the Whitman version of the book. It was only published by Whitman) porcupine48 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/28/2020 at 12:17 PM, Brock said: I've never seen one either... Since #8 had a 40 cent cover, and #11 had a 50 cent cover (and #10 was never published?), this would fall into the same period of confusion and timeframe as the price variants that @bellrules mentioned. Somehow, this seems typical of this era of Whitman, and (to me at least) just adds to the desirability... #10 was never published in the US. It did show up in a German comic, I believe. It's unfortunate that it was missed, since the story does lead out of #9 somewhat, and even more so it introduces characters who then appear in #11. If anybody is interested, the original lettered art sold on Heritage recently. So you can get B&W scans of the whole thing to read if you want; just search for "Buck Rogers #10". (I'm not sure of the propriety of providing a direct link or I would.) Here's the splash to #10, as I said grabbed from Heritage. ganni, bellrules and Brock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morganmi Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just found this one laying around. Probably have a few more scattered in misc. boxes somewhere. OtherEric, mec3437 and ganni 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganni Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Morganmi said: Just found this one laying around. Probably have a few more scattered in misc. boxes somewhere. Have Fun box diving. Me? Getting too old to keep up with the diving. Nice copy. Morganmi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/22/2020 at 10:44 PM, Warlord said: Here are a few cool Marvel Whitmans in my collection. I think I just cheated on my wife in my trousers seeing these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morganmi Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, ganni said: Have Fun box diving. Me? Getting too old to keep up with the diving. Nice copy. Ha ha Me too. Will need a serious amount of motivation to Go looking. ganni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Found this today. Reinforces my opinion that Marvel bagged comics aren’t Whitmans, but direct market. wormboy, ChrispyC66, porcupine48 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrispyC66 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, bellrules said: Found this today. Reinforces my opinion that Marvel bagged comics aren’t Whitmans, but direct market. This book was published in 1982 so it falls outside the disputed “Whitman variant” timeframe of 1977-mid 1979. Marvel acknowledges that by 1980 they were using multiple distributors for direct sales including Western/Whitman and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 11 hours ago, bellrules said: Found this today. Reinforces my opinion that Marvel bagged comics aren’t Whitmans, but direct market. This is pretty fascinating... It suggests a couple things to me: It's more proof that, by 1982, Whitman was inserting direct editions into its bags. This is exactly what the "fat diamonds are not Whitmans" crowd is asserting for the 1977-1979 period. So the question really boils down to whether Whitman or Marvel changed their practices around 1980 or not. This is yet another weird and wonderful product from Whitman's mysterious Canadian division, based in Cambridge, Ontario. I note the bag is sealed... is there an original price on it anywhere? Since this is the direct edition, I'm wondering whether the price reflects the Canadian 75c price, or the US 60c price. If it's not priced, it could suggest that the pack was intended for distribution on both sides of the border. Does anyone know when printing of comics shifted from Sparta, Illinois to Montreal, Quebec? I'm thinking out loud here, but that might help explain how Whitman distribution might have shifted to Canada. ChrispyC66 and ganni 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Brock said: This is pretty fascinating... It suggests a couple things to me: It's more proof that, by 1982, Whitman was inserting direct editions into its bags. This is exactly what the "fat diamonds are not Whitmans" crowd is asserting for the 1977-1979 period. So the question really boils down to whether Whitman or Marvel changed their practices around 1980 or not. This is yet another weird and wonderful product from Whitman's mysterious Canadian division, based in Cambridge, Ontario. I note the bag is sealed... is there an original price on it anywhere? Since this is the direct edition, I'm wondering whether the price reflects the Canadian 75c price, or the US 60c price. If it's not priced, it could suggest that the pack was intended for distribution on both sides of the border. Does anyone know when printing of comics shifted from Sparta, Illinois to Montreal, Quebec? I'm thinking out loud here, but that might help explain how Whitman distribution might have shifted to Canada. It’s priced at 1.49, so the going rate for comics in Canada at the time. Funny thing is, three packs were selling for 1.59 and 1.69 in the States. Edited December 31, 2020 by bellrules ganni, ChrispyC66 and Brock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormboy Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, bellrules said: Found this today. Reinforces my opinion that Marvel bagged comics aren’t Whitmans, but direct market. This is odd. Why wouldn’t they use the Canadian priced (.75) books in the Canadian bags? Sorry about the upside down image - it’s correct on my phone, but flips when inserted? Edited December 31, 2020 by wormboy Explaining inverted image. ganni and ChrispyC66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrules Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Oddly enough, picked these up yesterday. Overstreet mistakenly refers to the 75 cent versions as Whitman variants. They are just regular newsstand. I know, that’s where I bought mine as a kid. Edited December 31, 2020 by bellrules Brock, wormboy, ganni and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...