PINWHEEL Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Hi all, I bought this book a few years back when I started to get into slabs a bit, it was a good deal and the pgx label didn't bother me. Now I'd like to get it into a CGC slab to match my other early issues but those horror stories of the other guys have me a bit concerned. I've looked at lots of pics of this issue online and it doesn't appear to be trimmed (my biggest fear with how clean the top and side edge are) it matches up size wise with my issue 2 as well. Just thought I'd see what you guys think if it's a safe bet to crack it and get it over to CGC. PGX graders notes are: corner chip back cover, cover and edge wear, 1" crease front cover chuckfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Is that a subscription crease running up the middle (left center) of the FC? Maybe its a shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINWHEEL Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, comicquant said: Is that a subscription crease running up the middle (left center) of the FC? Maybe its a shadow. It is. Breaks color in a few spots but not all. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 This is not a bad looking copy, but keep in mind that CGC usually grades a little tougher than those other guys. Good luck... silverseeker and KCOComics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINWHEEL Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: This is not a bad looking copy, but keep in mind that CGC usually grades a little tougher than those other guys. Good luck... I know, I'm not too worried about losing a grade but it's the fear of getting a PLOD surprise that scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledgehammer Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Ten years ago I bought two early ASM slabs in their holders. The grades seemed ok, but one was missing 1/2 of a wrap, and another was missing a full wrap. KCOComics, James J Johnson and The Lions Den 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topnotchman Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 It’s common for this book to be missing a page. James J Johnson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatterEaterLad Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, sledgehammer said: Ten years ago I bought two early ASM slabs in their holders. The grades seemed ok, but one was missing 1/2 of a wrap, and another was missing a full wrap. PGX slabs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledgehammer Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, MatterEaterLad said: PGX slabs? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledgehammer Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Topnotchman said: It’s common for this book to be missing a page. yes. The Spider Man pin up page. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINWHEEL Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, sledgehammer said: yes. Oh wow, now I'm even more worried. Maybe I'll work up the courage to crack it open and take a look The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, sledgehammer said: yes. The Spider Man pin up page. Yes. Which is why the market value of this book will be boosted even if CGC grades it a little less because a potential buyer familiar with the differences between the grading services will be assured that it's complete. silverseeker and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 You might want to crack it open anyway, just for peace of mind. If upon inspection you find it to be missing something or trimmed, you can sell it as noted and then find a complete/unrestored copy that’s already passed inspection silverseeker, The Lions Den and James J Johnson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, PINWHEEL said: I know, I'm not too worried about losing a grade but it's the fear of getting a PLOD surprise that scares me. From what I can see, it doesn't appear to be trimmed. But if it's there, CGC will find it. As others here have said, I'd be more concerned about the interior...that's a real deal-breaker. silverseeker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, PINWHEEL said: I know, I'm not too worried about losing a grade but it's the fear of getting a PLOD surprise that scares me. You’d be happier keeping it in that slab than you would finding out how it actually should be graded? For me, I’d wanna know for sure. I wouldn’t be happy knowing I had a “PGX who knows what grade this really is “ when I could send to the best in the biz for verification and to ease all my queries. And if it is restored or trimmed, lesson learned on who to avoid. At least you would know and could decide to keep or seek out something other than the Wolf in sheep’s clothing that this was. All said, looks fine to me. Might dip to a 5.0 but still has a shot at 5.5 I think oldrover, silverseeker and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, The Lions Den said: From what I can see, it doesn't appear to be trimmed. But if it's there, CGC will find it. As others here have said, I'd be more concerned about the interior...that's a real deal-breaker. +1 on the trim. Good call. I don't think that's too likely either. I don't see any overt tells of trim here, front or back. The Lions Den and silverseeker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 55 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: +1 on the trim. Good call. I don't think that's too likely either. I don't see any overt tells of trim here, front or back. Thanks JJJ. And if you get a chance, please check out the Hulk #1 in the Resto forum...I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: Thanks JJJ. And if you get a chance, please check out the Hulk #1 in the Resto forum...I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Heading over now chuckfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, chuckfin said: I've heard horror stories, danger danger red alert The only danger now is getting run over by this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I didn't get back into collecting until early 2016 but if I remember correctly the really bad issues with PGX were early on. I'm not saying I would ever allow PGX to grade a book of mine, but I think your chances of getting a blue label is way up after a certain date. I know there are many long time boardies who know the date ranges of the really iffy books. chuckfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
