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Oh my.  I need a copy of that Young romance 15.

Back to the topic of random books heating up with no apparent reason, which brings me to this book: Black Knight 1 (Toby).  I bought a copy 30 years ago out of a $5 bin and was so disappointed with the low quality artwork and the character having no link or resemblance to the atlas/marvel character, so I tossed it into a box and never gave it a second thought again.  Until I saw this on eBay.  Other than having the same title (different character) and being published 2 years prior to the Atlas title, why in the world is this book so hot?  It was a $50 book you could hardly give away as late as 2017-2018.  Will the new Black Knight movie feature Kit Harrington's evil twin from the Toby Multiverse?  Someone school me please.

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3 minutes ago, davet75 said:

Oh my.  I need a copy of that Young romance 15.

Back to the topic of random books heating up with no apparent reason, which brings me to this book: Black Knight 1 (Toby).  I bought a copy 30 years ago out of a $5 bin and was so disappointed with the low quality artwork and the character having no link or resemblance to the atlas/marvel character, so I tossed it into a box and never gave it a second thought again.  Until I saw this on eBay.  Other than having the same title (different character) and being published 2 years prior to the Atlas title, why in the world is this book so hot?  It was a $50 book you could hardly give away as late as 2017-2018.  Someone school me please.

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Movie madness...the Eternals movie is coming...

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6 minutes ago, Tri-ColorBrian said:

Movie madness...the Eternals movie is coming...

Forgive my ignorance.  The book was so poorly written and illustrated that I never actually read it.  What is the link between the Toby Black Knight and the Marvel Eternals?  Mycomicshop lists the following contents and I don't see any reference to the Eternals.

Issue Details

Issue #1
Published May 1953
Cover Price 0.10
Pages 36
Editing ?

Cover Details

Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder

11 page Black Knight story "Human Sacrifice"

Characters I: Black Knight (Sir Robert, Earl of Denhope)
Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

8 page Black Knight story "Killers Unseen"

Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

2 page text story "Old Liz"

Letters Typeset
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

5 page Black Knight story "Search For the Sheriff"

Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder
Notes last appearance
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

1 page filler "The Invitation"

Genre Humor
Pencils Mel Lazarus
Inks Mel Lazarus
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1
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7 minutes ago, davet75 said:

Forgive my ignorance.  The book was so poorly written and illustrated that I never actually read it.  What is the link between the Toby Black Knight and the Marvel Eternals?  Mycomicshop lists the following contents and I don't see any reference to the Eternals.

Issue Details

Issue #1
Published May 1953
Cover Price 0.10
Pages 36
Editing ?

Cover Details

Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder

11 page Black Knight story "Human Sacrifice"

Characters I: Black Knight (Sir Robert, Earl of Denhope)
Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

8 page Black Knight story "Killers Unseen"

Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

2 page text story "Old Liz"

Letters Typeset
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

5 page Black Knight story "Search For the Sheriff"

Genre Period
Pencils Ernest Schroeder
Inks Ernest Schroeder
Notes last appearance
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

1 page filler "The Invitation"

Genre Humor
Pencils Mel Lazarus
Inks Mel Lazarus
Reprinted in Black Knight (I. W. Publishing; Super Comics, 1963 series) #1

Black Knight evidently was an Eternal, as revealed in a later marvel comic.  But, in 1953 there were no Eternals, so you are correct.  Marvel decided he was one later...Is this a load of cr*p, or what? :roflmao: I hate movie hype...unless I own a book that's being hyped...:insane:

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20 minutes ago, Tri-ColorBrian said:

Black Knight evidently was an Eternal, as revealed in a later marvel comic.  But, in 1953 there were no Eternals, so you are correct.  Marvel decided he was one later...Is this a load of cr*p, or what?  I hate movie hype...

I get the retcon to prior Marvel Black Knight incarnations and then future retcon to the Eternals.  i.e. Sir Percy of Scandia (Atlas Black Knight) was ancestor to Nathan Garrett (Marvel supervillain Black Knight in Tales to Astonish #52), who was the uncle of Dane Whitman (AKA Marvel movie Black Knight Kit Harrington/John Snow x new Eternal = bonkers price speculation).  What I don't get is the Toby Black Knight title is about a guy named Sir Robert, Earl of Denhope who has no connection to any of the previously referenced characters, and does not exist in the same universe / reality.  I just re-read the Toby book and Sir Robert is actually just a crusader with no connection to King Arthur or a magic sword.  Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to sell the book for a few grand to some speculator.  Just. mind. blown. 

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I get the retcon to prior Marvel Black Knight incarnations and then future retcon to the Eternals.  i.e. Sir Percy of Scandia (Atlas Black Knight) was ancestor to Nathan Garrett (Marvel supervillain Black Knight in Tales to Astonish #52), who was the uncle of Dane Whitman (AKA Marvel movie Black Knight Kit Harrington/John Snow x new Eternal = bonkers price speculation).  What I don't get is the Toby Black Knight title is about a guy named Sir Robert, Earl of Denhope who has no connection to any of the previously referenced characters, and does not exist in the same universe / reality.  I just re-read the Toby book and Sir Robert is actually just a crusader with no connection to King Arthur or a magic sword.  Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to sell the book for a few grand to some speculator.  Just. mind. blown. 

Exactly...:roflmao:

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3 hours ago, szav said:

I think your Toby Black Knight was the first appearance of this version of the character, from a blockbuster movie which is apparently being remade.

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Ah, there's the connection.   This Black Knight had all his limbs cut off and lived,  thus revealing his Eternal lineage.   Monty is closer to Toby than Marvel in spelling,  thus establishing the Eternal connection to the Toby Black Knight.  I stand corrected.  The book is clearly undervalued and should be selling for multiples of the eBay price in a few month.  $10k it is.  

I can't wait for the movie sequel: Black Knight 2: Attack of the Knights who say "Ni!"

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19 hours ago, davet75 said:

Back to the topic of random books heating up with no apparent reason, which brings me to this book: Black Knight 1 (Toby).  I bought a copy 30 years ago out of a $5 bin and was so disappointed with the low quality artwork and the character having no link or resemblance to the atlas/marvel character, so I tossed it into a box and never gave it a second thought again.  Until I saw this on eBay.  Other than having the same title (different character) and being published 2 years prior to the Atlas title, why in the world is this book so hot?  It was a $50 book you could hardly give away as late as 2017-2018.  Will the new Black Knight movie feature Kit Harrington's evil twin from the Toby Multiverse?  Someone school me please.

Honestly, I think is due to speculators that don't know anything about comics. They see that Black Knight #1 is selling for a lot of money, so they buy up the first BK #1 that they can find. They can't even be concerned enough to check if it's the correct BK #1.

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15 minutes ago, atomised said:

people are spending stimulus money on collectables. 

I keep hearing this, but prices are not going up by $1400.

In any event, I'm pretty sure that the people who are eligible to get the full $1400 aren't splashing out 6- and 7-figures on collectibles.

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20 hours ago, jimjum12 said:

:gossip:  ... you forgot to include the obligatory Prize Western with a Severin cover. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)(thumbsu

 

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1 hour ago, atomised said:

people are spending stimulus money on collectables.  I worry about these rising prices not being sustainable.

I don't think stimmies are responsible for the card, comic and collectable market exploding. May have a small part to play, but I think sheer boredom and newfound appreciation has a lot to do with it. 

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1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

Now, this is a definite keeper for any collection as I absolutely love the variation of colors on this book here.  :luhv:  :takeit:

Color design and cover proof.

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Sure, it's definitely a purty copy, but if a BA Marvel like this one here can fetch $21,600 even though there's already 349 copies slabbed to date, it makes me wonder why a beauty like that Prize Comics Western 88 with still zero copies slabbed to date would surely end up nowhere even anywhere close to what this Night Nurse 1 managed to fetched last week:  (:  :screwy:

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:takeit:  :takeit:  ,  the Prize Comics Western 88, that is!!!  :luhv:

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:idea:   Heck, with this no name Night Nurse being able to fetch over $20K and the Godzilla vs. Kong movie apparently setting global pandemic box office records this past weekend, I am going to get Godzilla himself to stomp on my copy of Marvel's BA Godzilla #1 until it gets flattened into a CGC 11.0 graded copy and then I'll flip it to one of these newbie crypto billionaires for a cool million dollars.  :wishluck:  lol

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2 hours ago, lou_fine said:

it makes me wonder why a beauty like that Prize Comics Western 88 with still zero copies slabbed to date would surely end up nowhere even anywhere close to what this Night Nurse 1 managed to fetched last week: 

I agree.  It would probably be $216,000 book.   

Like you said, "nowhere even anywhere close" :shy:

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7 hours ago, tth2 said:

Will this suffice?

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I've never seen this one... Thanks, Tim .... Severin has been on my A-List for years... since I was a kid checking out Trimpe/Severin Hulks .... GODF BLESS....

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)(thumbsu

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