jimbo_7071 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 It would be a good experiment to buy some Promise books, crack them out, re-submit them as non-peds, and see what kind of grades they get. I don't think many of them would retain their grades. (I personally can't afford that sort of venture, but I encourage everyone else here to try it.) comicjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 To not have the Promise books worked on before grading would be like dropping a $10,000,000 bill on the ground for someone else to pick up. The end state for all these books was to have been pressed at a bare minimum of once. I suspect many of the ones that graded less than 9.0 will get careful scrutiny to see if further work could bump the grade. If I had to venture a guess of how many people on the boards press their own books, I would take the over if the number thrown out was 100. buttock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, tabcom said: 2021 #regradepromisecollection campaign. All buyers of the collection return the items to CGC. Demanding that the grades be reevaluated down by two points. Taking a stand, together we can fight injustice. And paying for the re-slab, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, tabcom said: 2021 #regradepromisecollection campaign. All buyers of the collection return the items to CGC. Demanding that the grades be reevaluated down by two points. Taking a stand, together we can fight injustice. lou_fine, Terry JSA and ThothAmon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, batman_fan said: To not have the Promise books worked on before grading would be like dropping a $10,000,000 bill on the ground for someone else to pick up. The end state for all these books was to have been pressed at a bare minimum of once. I suspect many of the ones that graded less than 9.0 will get careful scrutiny to see if further work could bump the grade. If I had to venture a guess of how many people on the boards press their own books, I would take the over if the number thrown out was 100. Exactly. Easy to spend other people's money. buttock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dr. Love said: well then for you Peter @Gotham Kid upcoming Promises Batman 1 2.0 CR-OW Batman 2 2.0 CR-OW Batman 3 4.0 OW Batman 4 5.0 CR-OW Batman 5 4.5 OW Batman 6 6.5 OW Batman 7 5.5 OW Batman 8 5.5 OW Batman 9 3.0 OW Batman 10 5.0 OW Batman 11 6.5 CR-OW Batman 12 7.5 OWW Batman 13 4.5 OW Batman 14 6.5 OW Batman 15 7.5 OW Batman 16 6.0 OW Batman 17 7.0 OW Batman 19 8.0 OW Batman 57 9.0 OWW Detective Comics 55 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 63 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 70 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 74 7.0 OWW Detective Comics 75 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 77 6.0 OWW Detective Comics 81 5.0 OW Detective Comics 83 8.0 OWW Detective Comics 84 7.5 OWW Detective Comics 93 8.5 W I wonder if there’s a TEC #168 in this collection. There were some close to that issue in the previous auction. Edited June 28, 2021 by Terry_JSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 11:09 PM, bpc3qh said: I'll be very interested in this book. I consider it a hugely underrated D.C. key, and Two-Face is, to my mind, #3 on the list of Batman's villains (behind only the Joker and Ra's al Ghul. Of course it won't come near the highest prices for the other Promise Detective books, but I'm very curious nonetheless to see how it does. I’m curious to see how it does as well but at the same time this presents better than a 7.5 to me. The grading seems a bit off for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vheflin Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Terry_JSA said: I’m curious to see how it does as well but at the same time this presents better than a 7.5 to me. The grading seems a bit off for this one. Are you saying a Promise book is undergraded? And are you willing to testify in a court of law? Terry JSA, Funnybooks and Larryw7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Terry_JSA said: I’m curious to see how it does as well but at the same time this presents better than a 7.5 to me. The grading seems a bit off for this one. There seems to be a couple of tears on the bc amounting to approximately an inch that is "likely" the primary reason for the grade Terry JSA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Funnybooks said: There seems to be a couple of tears on the bc amounting to approximately an inch that is "likely" the primary reason for the grade Didn’t see the back scan. I checked it out and I see one noticeable tear and a few slight ones, can’t complain as it’s still a nice presenting book. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimbo_7071 Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, batman_fan said: To not have the Promise books worked on before grading would be like dropping a $10,000,000 bill on the ground for someone else to pick up. The end state for all these books was to have been pressed at a bare minimum of once. I suspect many of the ones that graded less than 9.0 will get careful scrutiny to see if further work could bump the grade. If I had to venture a guess of how many people on the boards press their own books, I would take the over if the number thrown out was 100. I guess it depends on who the bidder is. My max bid on a book is much higher if I believe that a book is unpressed. I paid $1500 for this book because it appeared to me to be unpressed (although who knows for sure). If it had been an obviously-pressed 9.0 or 9.2, I doubt that I would have bid on it, so it might well have sold for less. Edited June 28, 2021 by jimbo_7071 batman_fan, onlyweaknesskryptonite, Larryw7 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 14 hours ago, batman_fan said: To not have the Promise books worked on before grading would be like dropping a $10,000,000 bill on the ground for someone else to pick up. The end state for all these books was to have been pressed at a bare minimum of once. I suspect many of the ones that graded less than 9.0 will get careful scrutiny to see if further work could bump the grade. If I had to venture a guess of how many people on the boards press their own books, I would take the over if the number thrown out was 100. so true. the sentiment is different in the ostrich community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, Straw-Man said: so true. the sentiment is different in the ostrich community. Members of the ostrich community do sell books from time to time, albeit not often. I've sold three slabbed books in the last nine years; none were pressed before I sold them. Does that mean that I "left money on the table?" Perhaps—but not enough to make me or break me, I'll warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 i press very few; my comment was directed only to what the promise owners' due diligence led them to. obviously correct choice, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Straw-Man said: i press very few; my comment was directed only to what the promise owners' due diligence led them to. obviously correct choice, imo. If they wanted to have the books pressed, I think that it could have been done more judiciously. Is there a way to press a book without the risk of popping the staple? Can the staple be removed before pressing and then put back in after pressing without resulting in a PLOD? Maybe a book with a staple that is not aligned with the spine shouldn't even be a candidate for pressing. I would be willing to bet that the Cap 46 looked better before pressing, yet CGC's policy of ignoring pressing-related defects and awarding bonus points to books that look like pancakes has rigged the game. Edited June 28, 2021 by jimbo_7071 nmtg9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, jimbo_7071 said: If they wanted to have the books pressed, I think that it could have been done more judiciously. Is there a way to press a book without the risk of popping the staple? Can the staple be removed before pressing and then put back in after pressing without resulting in a PLOD? Maybe a book with a staple that is not aligned with the spine shouldn't even be a candidate for pressing. I would be willing to bet that the Cap 46 looked better before pressing, yet CGC's policy of ignoring pressing-related defects and awarding bonus points to books that look like pancakes has rigged the game. To be fair you're making an assumption here. You have no idea what the staples on that book looked like prior to it being pressed. I've been very vocal here about my disdain for the way that CCS seems to pop staples, but without seeing before and after pictures here I don't know that I'm willing to be as adamant as you are that this is caused by CCS. Funnybooks, Rip and VintageComics 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, buttock said: To be fair you're making an assumption here. You have no idea what the staples on that book looked like prior to it being pressed. I've been very vocal here about my disdain for the way that CCS seems to pop staples, but without seeing before and after pictures here I don't know that I'm willing to be as adamant as you are that this is caused by CCS. There are a LOT of assumptions made in this thread ... the first of which is that every book in this collection has been pressed. It seems like those who dislike pressing the most know the least about it. GOD BLESS ... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Rip, Funnybooks and buttock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gotham Kid Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Dr. Love said: Detective Comics 55 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 63 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 70 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 74 7.0 OWW Detective Comics 75 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 77 6.0 OWW Detective Comics 81 5.0 OW Detective Comics 83 8.0 OWW Detective Comics 84 7.5 OWW Detective Comics 93 8.5 W also Tec 39 4.5 Tec 43 4.0 Tec 44 5.0 Tec 45 7.0 Tec 46 6.5 Tec 47 6.5 Tec 48 6.5 Tec 49 7.0 Tec 50 7.0 Affordable copies of some great early covers Edited June 28, 2021 by Gotham Kid Point Five, greggy, Larryw7 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, batman_fan said: To not have the Promise books worked on before grading would be like dropping a $10,000,000 bill on the ground for someone else to pick up. The end state for all these books was to have been pressed at a bare minimum of once. I suspect many of the ones that graded less than 9.0 will get careful scrutiny to see if further work could bump the grade. If I had to venture a guess of how many people on the boards press their own books, I would take the over if the number thrown out was 100. Edited June 28, 2021 by Terry_JSA Mmehdy, Funnybooks and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, jimjum12 said: There are a LOT of assumptions made in this thread ... the first of which is that every book in this collection has been pressed. It seems like those who dislike pressing the most know the least about it. GOD BLESS ... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) It's also very presumptive to assume that every book that's not 9.8 was damaged by pressing. I mean, these are 70-80 years old. Most of them didn't make it to the newsstand in 9.8. VintageComics and jimjum12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...