Why does CGC refer to this as a Historic Atomic radiation cover? 1 1

[Domo Arigato]

Does Overstreet refer to it as such, and CGC is just relying on their information for the label?  I know I've seen others refer to it as an Atomic radiation cover as well.  And I know I've read in the past that Overstreet would sprinkle incorrect information into its Price Guide to catch other publishers plagiarizing their information.....could this be a result of that?

 And yes.....I'm bored......so on with the show.

Newsflash:  This cover has absolutely nothing to do with Atomic radiation.

The first clue:  Atomic radiation isn't pumped out of the ground through pipes.

 

The second clue:  You see those things in the background?  Those are derricks (link).  And just in case it isn't obvious, they're used to help extract oil from underground deposits.....oil which sometimes catches on fire.

 

The third clue:  There are flames all over the cover.  Superman is obviously rushing in to put out an oil fire....like this one below.

 

The fourth clue:  Those aren't radiation suits.  They're called Fire Proximity Suits (link) and they're used to deal with the extreme heat put off by these fires (you'll notice the guys above didn't have these suits and had to improvise. 

 

Please let me know if further proof is required in order to get this abomination against humanity corrected.

Thank you.

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Domo Arigato

[kav]

Some numbskull thought they were radiation suits, and the rest is history.  If the inside story is abt an oil fire, and its not just a DC irrelevant cover image then-more numbskull.

[marvelcollector]

They might have thought the derrick was the tower at the Trinity site. It does look similar.

[vheflin]

Thermal radiation (heat)

Thermal radiation is a common synonym for infrared radiation emitted by objects at temperatures often encountered on Earth. Thermal radiation refers not only to the radiation itself, but also the process by which the surface of an object radiates its thermal energy in the form of black body radiation. Infrared or red radiation from a common household radiator or electric heater is an example of thermal radiation, as is the heat emitted by an operating incandescent light bulb. Thermal radiation is generated when energy from the movement of charged particles within atoms is converted to electromagnetic radiation.

As noted above, even low-frequency thermal radiation may cause temperature-ionization whenever it deposits sufficient thermal energy to raise temperatures to a high enough level. Common examples of this are the ionization (plasma) seen in common flames, and the molecular changes caused by the "browning" during food-cooking, which is a chemical process that begins with a large component of ionization.

[Domo Arigato]

7 minutes ago, marvelcollector said:

They might have thought the derrick was the tower at the Trinity site. It does look similar.

If that's the case, then they should have noticed that there are four of them on the cover.......and the comic is from 1943, which would have been prior to the general public knowing about it.

 

[kav]

3 minutes ago, vheflin said:

Thermal radiation (heat)

Thermal radiation is a common synonym for infrared radiation emitted by objects at temperatures often encountered on Earth. Thermal radiation refers not only to the radiation itself, but also the process by which the surface of an object radiates its thermal energy in the form of black body radiation. Infrared or red radiation from a common household radiator or electric heater is an example of thermal radiation, as is the heat emitted by an operating incandescent light bulb. Thermal radiation is generated when energy from the movement of charged particles within atoms is converted to electromagnetic radiation.

As noted above, even low-frequency thermal radiation may cause temperature-ionization whenever it deposits sufficient thermal energy to raise temperatures to a high enough level. Common examples of this are the ionization (plasma) seen in common flames, and the molecular changes caused by the "browning" during food-cooking, which is a chemical process that begins with a large component of ionization.

This is different from atomic radiation, which consists of alpha beta or gamma radiation.  Plasma is not merely ionization, or salt water would be a plasma.  It is a state of high temp gas where all the electrons have been stripped off and flow freely.

[greggy]

1 minute ago, kav said:

This is different from atomic radiation, which consists of alpha beta or gamma radiation.  Plasma is not merely ionization, or salt water would be a plasma.  It is a state of high temp gas where all the electrons have been stripped off and flow freely.

That's what she said. 

[kav]

3 minutes ago, greggy said:

That's what she said. 

Yep Madame Curie said that.

[Domo Arigato]

23 minutes ago, vheflin said:

Thermal radiation (heat)

Thermal radiation is a common synonym for infrared radiation emitted by objects at temperatures often encountered on Earth. Thermal radiation refers not only to the radiation itself, but also the process by which the surface of an object radiates its thermal energy in the form of black body radiation. Infrared or red radiation from a common household radiator or electric heater is an example of thermal radiation, as is the heat emitted by an operating incandescent light bulb. Thermal radiation is generated when energy from the movement of charged particles within atoms is converted to electromagnetic radiation.

As noted above, even low-frequency thermal radiation may cause temperature-ionization whenever it deposits sufficient thermal energy to raise temperatures to a high enough level. Common examples of this are the ionization (plasma) seen in common flames, and the molecular changes caused by the "browning" during food-cooking, which is a chemical process that begins with a large component of ionization.

Thermal radiation isn't the same thing as Atomic radiation......and it certainly wouldn't be Historic Atomic radiation.

Thermal radiation might cause temperature-ionization.

But Ionizing radiation is generated through nuclear reactions, nuclear decay, by very high temperature, or via acceleration of charged particles in electromagnetic fields. Natural sources include the sun, lightning and supernova explosions. Artificial sources include nuclear reactors, particle accelerators, and x-ray tubes.

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Domo Arigato

[kav]

1 minute ago, Domo Arigato said:

Thermal radiation isn't the same thing as Atomic radiation......and is certainly wouldn't be Historic Atomic radiation.

Thermal radiation might cause temperature-ionization.

But Ionizing radiation is generated through nuclear reactions, nuclear decay, by very high temperature, or via acceleration of charged particles in electromagnetic fields. Natural sources include the sun, lightning and supernova explosions. Artificial sources include nuclear reactors, particle accelerators, and x-ray tubes.

 

even an ice cube gives off thermal radiation.

[Point Five]

In any case, hell of a cover!   

 

[comicdonna]

Just now, Point Five said:

In any case, hell of a cover!   

 

+1

[Domo Arigato]

3 minutes ago, Point Five said:

In any case, hell of a cover!   

 

I love the cover. 

It's the label that's wrong.

 

[Domo Arigato]

Somebody get me the phone number for CGC's new Executive Vice President and tell him to clear a couple of hours in his schedule to discuss this.

 

[comicdonna]

Just now, Domo Arigato said:

Somebody get me the phone number for CGC's new Executive Vice President and tell him to clear a couple of hours in his schedule to discuss this.

 

867-5309

[Domo Arigato]

9 minutes ago, comicdonna said:

867-5309

Sweet......now to get into the right frame of mind before I call.

[Readcomix]

1 hour ago, Domo Arigato said:

Does Overstreet refer to it as such

 

 

 

Yep, here’s page 429 from the 49th edition, which I just happened to have handy.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Readcomix

[Point Five]

"Get me BOB OVERSTREET on the phone, pronto! No, I don't care if he IS sleeping. This is URGENT!"

 

[Ken Aldred]

Perhaps a simple example of ‘didn’t do the research’, or no access to information on Fermi’s then cutting edge and war-restricted nuclear reactor technology, and especially not the Manhattan Project.

In any case, guesswork which ended up way off, but inadvertently created a cool cover instead.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Ken Aldred

[Number 6]

Maybe I’m splitting hairs (and this really doesn’t address the atomic problem) but I noticed that OSPG doesn’t refer to it as a “Classic Atomic Radiation Cover” but as a “Historic” one. 
 

Is this cover supposed to allude to some actual event in history or did this cover itself somehow become newsworthy at some point?