Bo1983 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) I was wondering if this is foxing it’s not really brown?But on the spare a grade two guys said it was foxing? Edited June 12, 2021 by Bo1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Looks more like some light ink transfer and dirt. Might be some foxing mingled in there, but need better close ups for that to be confirmed. silverseeker, Randall Dowling and The Lions Den 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Foxing is typically a brown or rust colored stain. If your book has it, it appears to be pretty minor. CGC will generally permit a small amount of foxing up to a NM 9.4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1983 Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 Just now, The Lions Den said: Foxing is typically a brown or rust colored stain. If your book has it, it appears to be pretty minor. CGC will generally permit a small amount of foxing up to a NM 9.4... that’s what I thought please go give me a grade on spare a grade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Just now, Bo1983 said: that’s what I thought please go give me a grade on spare a grade! As you wish... Bo1983 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1983 Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 minute ago, The Lions Den said: As you wish... It’s Punisher 1 The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixom Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Not seeing 🦊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Thurgood Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Foxing is caused by fungi and can be removed. This is usually done for high value items such as artworks. But does anyone know - would CGC give a purple label to a book that had its foxing removed? @The Lions Den? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Albert Thurgood said: Foxing is caused by fungi and can be removed. This is usually done for high value items such as artworks. But does anyone know - would CGC give a purple label to a book that had its foxing removed? @The Lions Den? My guess is that it would depend upon the type of cleaning involved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, Albert Thurgood said: Foxing is caused by fungi... This is one theory. Others think it may be rust from small iron particles in the paper caused by exposure to relatively humid conditions. Or all of the above. Frustrating all the same when it rears it's ugly head. Bo1983 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Does not look like foxing. Have you tried removing with an eraser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 1:41 AM, Albert Thurgood said: Foxing is caused by fungi and can be removed. This is usually done for high value items such as artworks. But does anyone know - would CGC give a purple label to a book that had its foxing removed? @The Lions Den? All I know is Joey Post was very clear in saying that there was no method for treating foxing within the allotable press and cleaning proceses that would give a blue label. Whoever would find that would be a millionaire due to all the GA books that would benefit from it. Anyways, regarding the book being presented, I see no foxing. Albert Thurgood and Bo1983 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1983 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Motor City Rob said: Does not look like foxing. Have you tried removing with an eraser? No I plan on sending in to Cgc with a clean and press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1983 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Motor City Rob said: Does not look like foxing. Have you tried removing with an eraser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smushi Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Looks like a clean and press would make this clean up a ton. I don’t see any “noticeable” foxing that would red flag the book to me. Foxing is organic in nature and in ancient texts a laser system is being used by universities/museums to restore/preserve old paper. I have not found anything online to say anything with regards to newer papers and comics as the places with said multi 100k laser are busy saving actual historical documents not people’s investment comics ;). That being said they have had a lot of luck with specific frequencies taking and quiet literally destroying the organic foxing and leaving no marks or eveidence of work done or the foxing having been there. Maybe within the next decade that solution to the problem will make it to the public and it will cause a giant revolver mess like cleaning and pressing. Heck I have a 7.5 WP Action 252 that is likely 9.4 or better if the foxing was removed. There are so many comics out there that if foxing was eliminated they would jump 1 or more full points causing a massive disruption to what’s out there and values. The Lions Den, Albert Thurgood and Bo1983 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Thurgood Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 1:47 PM, The Lions Den said: My guess is that it would depend upon the type of cleaning involved... OK, do you know what type of cleaning is acceptable and effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Albert Thurgood said: OK, do you know what type of cleaning is acceptable and effective? I like the "laser" method myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Careful what you wish for Bo1983, Albert Thurgood and silverseeker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
