stippy52 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Read what qualifies as a pedigree collection on CGC's site but it's unclear as to how to qualify for a bronze age pedigree.(such as the Mile High II collection) Any insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Mile High II is no longer recognized, I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Heronext said: Mile High II is no longer recognized, I thought I did not know that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BingBing said: Read what qualifies as a pedigree collection on CGC's site but it's unclear as to how to qualify for a bronze age pedigree.(such as the Mile High II collection) Thanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 19 hours ago, stippy52 said: Read what qualifies as a pedigree collection on CGC's site but it's unclear as to how to qualify for a bronze age pedigree.(such as the Mile High II collection) Any insight? Steps: 1. Be Chuck Rozanski 2. Submit a pallet of comics back when CGC receiving a full pallet of comics in a day was a big deal 3. Don't care that MH II is not a pedigree and no collection of Bronze (or later) books will ever again be recognized as a pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 I guess it comes down to definition of Bronze Age. I recently purchased a collection from the son of Bronze Age collector that passed away. So far there are multiple HIGH grade copies of a few desirable books. Never read and perfectly stored. I've looked at the census and quite a few of them show up in other pedigree collections. Most of the books are from the '68-'73 period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 To ask another question. How does a collection get recognized as a “collection “ and not a pedigree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbledclam Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I'm thinking by now you have about 147 new friends you never knew you had. Prepare to be special, very special. greggy, Robot Man and stippy52 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 In simple terms, a pedigree must be assembled by an owner buying books off the newsstand. A collection is where the owner bought the books from secondary sources. Nick Cage and Jon Berk bought their books from secondary sources, so it is a collection. In addition to having to be bought off the newsstand, a pedigree has to have exceptional qualities to it. Its subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, shadroch said: In simple terms, a pedigree must be assembled by an owner buying books off the newsstand. A collection is where the owner bought the books from secondary sources. Nick Cage and Jon Berk bought their books from secondary sources, so it is a collection. In addition to having to be bought off the newsstand, a pedigree has to have exceptional qualities to it. Its subjective. I think this is the most important part. Most recognized pedigrees fit your criteria, but not all. As you say, it's subjective and generally requires consensus in the community of collectors for recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, shadroch said: In simple terms, a pedigree must be assembled by an owner buying books off the newsstand. A collection is where the owner bought the books from secondary sources. Nick Cage and Jon Berk bought their books from secondary sources, so it is a collection. In addition to having to be bought off the newsstand, a pedigree has to have exceptional qualities to it. Its subjective. This gentleman apparently bought multiple copies of the books he collected. All high grade (with exceptions) and most never read.I'm only about 25% into grading them with only about 20% falling below not being worthy of getting graded. I believe still has more books. Surprising hardly any super hero stuff. BIG Kirby fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 I may call CGC tomorrow. Find out what they have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, stippy52 said: I may call CGC tomorrow. Find out what they have to say I'm of the opinion that who asks matters. Its easier to say no to you than to someone who might own part of the company, for example or someone who is the largest dealer in the free world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, shadroch said: I'm of the opinion that who asks matters. Its easier to say no to you than to someone who might own part of the company, for example or someone who is the largest dealer in the free world. I can definitely see that. He also has a few Golden age books (multiple copies same issue) but not many. If there are already books listed in A pedigree, doesn't make sense that there would never b another pedigree of the same issue if it met the criteria. Edited June 27, 2021 by stippy52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Never is a very long time. Morganmi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stippy52 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, K.P.D. said: What? Quite a few of the books in the OO collection I purchased have pedigree status under pedigree collections on the GPA. Are you stating that the books I purchased cannot be a pedigree due to the fact there aren’t enough golden age books in the collection? Edited June 27, 2021 by stippy52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BlowUpTheMoon Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, K.P.D. said: Now I'm even more confused Same here. K.P.D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) On 6/14/2021 at 2:55 PM, stippy52 said: I guess it comes down to definition of Bronze Age. I recently purchased a collection from the son of Bronze Age collector that passed away. So far there are multiple HIGH grade copies of a few desirable books. Never read and perfectly stored. I've looked at the census and quite a few of them show up in other pedigree collections. Most of the books are from the '68-'73 period. It depends on various factors. 1. Key books. You need some noteworthy Key books 2. Size 3. Age 4. Very High Grade. 5. Bought from newsstand I can think of some various pedigrees that do fit close to what you have. A late Silver/Bronze age pedigree would have to be of very high quality and something unique. The pedigrees of this age are the Haight-Ashbury: (Underground comics)1967-82 with 500 issues. Some very tough books in high grade. Oakland: Roughly 1966 to 1974 4,000 comics. A wonderful collection filled with some very tough high grade books. I'd say its possible, but unlikely, and need more information. Edited June 27, 2021 by Rip Randall Dowling and stippy52 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, stippy52 said: To ask another question. How does a collection get recognized as a “collection “ and not a pedigree? A provenance is noted as a "collection of". Of noteworthiness is WHO owned the book, often weighed in with what the collection has in it. Like writer Doug Moench or a famous actor like Nic Cage. An example of extreme noteworthy collection would be something like Jon Berk. Or it can be a combination of both pedigree and provenance like Don Rosa. Edited June 27, 2021 by Rip stippy52 and K.P.D. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
