This Might Actually Be Good. DC Needs The Win 1 1

[BabyAteMyDingo]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/black-adam-dwayne-johnson-dc-fandome-181546021.html

[WolverineX]

Looks amazing but i hope not.  Love my DC prices now and don't want the ridiculous marvel run up.

[eastriver400]

Looks absolutely incredible. This will be huge for DC. 

[WolverineX]

On 10/16/2021 at 8:12 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

Same here. Think positive. DC always manages to screw various pooches. I already have a problem with Black Hawkman.  Because Hawkman was white. IS white. Egyptian at the very most. Don't really care for this whole retrofitting thing at all just to satisfy some weird white guilt thing.

I have already seen the 1970's "Shazam" titles nudging up in price. The Black Adam appearances will go up.

Wow, you are right.. those are moving up... better grab more DC stuff tonight...

[kav]

It will suck.  DC movies suck.  They can ruin a good character like nobody's business.

[BabyAteMyDingo]

On 10/16/2021 at 8:49 PM, kav said:

It will suck.  DC movies suck.  They can ruin a good character like nobody's business.

They sure can. They ruined Batman. They ruined Green Lantern. The 1st Wonder Woman movie was pretty decent. Then they shot it in the face. She wasn't ok with women being taken advantage of but she was ok with Steve Trevor inhabiting the body of a man so she could get some snu-snu. She was ok with necrophilia. And rape.

Yeah. I have had a problem with DC movies since 1989 when those terrible words were uttered:

"I'm Batman." I had to be restrained from leaving the theater when Keaton uttered those words.

[kav]

On 10/16/2021 at 6:31 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

They sure can. They ruined Batman. They ruined Green Lantern. The 1st Wonder Woman movie was pretty decent. Then they shot it in the face. She wasn't ok with women being taken advantage of but she was ok with Steve Trevor inhabiting the body of a man so she could get some snu-snu. She was ok with necrophilia. And rape.

Yeah. I have had a problem with DC movies since 1989 when those terrible words were uttered:

"I'm Batman." I had to be restrained from leaving the theater when Keaton uttered those words.

Omg someone who agrees with me about everything!!!  YES YES YES and YES!!!

[WolverineX]

On 10/16/2021 at 9:31 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

They sure can. They ruined Batman. They ruined Green Lantern. The 1st Wonder Woman movie was pretty decent. Then they shot it in the face. She wasn't ok with women being taken advantage of but she was ok with Steve Trevor inhabiting the body of a man so she could get some snu-snu. She was ok with necrophilia. And rape.

Yeah. I have had a problem with DC movies since 1989 when those terrible words were uttered:

"I'm Batman." I had to be restrained from leaving the theater when Keaton uttered those words.

I loved The dark knight, Doom  Petrol,Aquaman ,Wonder woman 1

[kav]

On 10/16/2021 at 6:31 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

They ruined Green Lantern

Here's my review of that suckfest:
 

One thing I've noticed about DC movies as opposed to Marvel movies is the crowds.  In a Marvel movie the

crowd is reacting to what's happening.  In a DC movie the crowd just stands there while a green flying guy

you know, shoots magical beams that stop a crashing heli and saves a girl from a falling structure with

a FORCE FIELD.  Even after the FLYING GREEN GUY shoots skyward, no one says a word.  Also, they're evenly

spaced.  It's like the director said ok you guys stand here here and here etc then forgot about them.

Dumb, man.  No one says "WHO IS THAT DUDE? HOW CAN HE FLY?" or even "OMG!"

     Also, the debut of GL was dumb.  A heli starts to crash-heads for the crowd, all this times passes

before FINALLY GL does something about it.  He watched it all go down, like everyone, but just, I don't

know, reached for another drink.

     Also we have Sinestro- the GL leader(the guardians don't say or do much of anything-they kinda remind 

me of Michael Jackson on propofol. Dumb).  So Sinestro tells Hal how inferior and unworthy he is

cause he's human.  If I was Hal I would have quipped 'Hey Goebbels-what's with the racist attitude,

man?  Haven't you ever heard of diversity?  Seig Heil, dude.'  

The film plods along with the usual stupidities.  No one recognizes Hal because he's wearing an 

eye mask.  To test this I bought a same size domino mask and put it on.  I walked around to various

friends and acquantances and guess what-every single one said 'Hey Kav-what's with the mask?'  Dumb.

     I also don't like the lantern.  It's obviously a lightweight cheap plastic prop and looks somewhat

like a 60's hippie lamp.  Dumb.

     Then we have the scene kyped from the original Superman movie where he flies up to Lois Lane I 

mean Carol Ferris's penthouse.  He even steals Superman's line 

'are you ok?' And why does everyone in the movies live in penthouses???  I

guess Hollywood thinks since they and all their friends live in penthouses, so must the rest of

America.  Out of touch, boys?  It bugs me that the average 17 year old can spot these gaffes yet no

one on a multimillion dollar movie set can.  Hollywood: I'M AVAILABLE FOR CONSULTATION!  I'LL

WORK FOR FREE!  Christ.

     OK finally Carol recognizes it's Hal.  Why it took her 3 minutes of staring to come up with this

when my friends didn't even take 1/2 a second is a mystery.  PS can't the actor at least shave if he's

gonna be in a multimillion dollar film? These and other questions I have. The beard stubble is distracting.  

Hal's OA GL mentor explained the mask appears when he's among his own kind so he can go unrecognized.

The fact that beings as dumb as this have such powerful weapons scares me.

     And the romance scenes really DRAG, man.  They could have just as effectively put up a sign

that said 'ROMANCE SCENE HERE" instead of having the 'actors' go thru the painful motions of

speaking such lame dialogue.

     Then there's the scene where Hal's old schoolmate now turned toad-style kung fu lookin dude

battles GL. He keeps launching oxygen tanks at GL and GL keeps trying to block them with his ring.

Of course several slip past and knock him senseless.  Hey, dummy-just make a friggin force field.

Christ.  Then we have to hear the cheesy villain 'moogie-ha-ha' laugh.  Corny, guys. Weak 

characterization.  No one is 100% evil-Hitler liked dogs.  But that's too deep for these writers,

no-they went with the formula villain.  In fact this whole movie could have been written by a 

computer.  I'm not kidding.  There are actual programs that do this.  So then the villain starts 

MONOLOGUING.  Guys-go see 'The Incredibles'.  That movie MOCKED the weak character device pretty

effectively.

     Then we learn that Hal is AFRAID.  He has the most advanced weapon ever devised and he's 

AFRAID.  Give me the freakin ring and I'll handle it dude.  I'll defeat the menace because I'll 

ATTACK it instead of staring at it with gaping mouth.  Double Christ.  Hollywood-it's not a good

sign when a viewer keeps waiting for the movie to be OVER.  But that's how I felt.  And everyone

else I talked to.  Even teenagers HATED this movie.  PS the actor that plays Sinestro is great-

it's too bad he got pulled into this suckfest.

     We also have the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom rip-off where the evil guardian

sucks the souls out of his victim's eyeballs.  Lame.  Then Hal gets half his soul sucked out but 

he's still ok.  I guess a half-wit can operate with a half-soul.  This movie is a real tragedy

it could have been so good-GL has the most interesting super power.  But Hollywood formula 

writing prevails and we have suckfest instead.

     Hal lures the creature into the asteroid belt, which is strangely close to Earth, and is chock

full of asteroids.  Science note-the actual belt is so sparse if you passed thru it you would't

see a single asteroid.  The entire mass of asteroids circling the Sun at a circumference of billions

of miles would constitute a small moon.  There's not much there, folks.  Sorry.  If the actual

belt was this crowded Earth would be struck so often that no life, not even bacteria, would have 

time to evolve.

     

     

    So therefore I am re-naming this movie 'Green Latrine'

That's a wrap.

[BabyAteMyDingo]

On 10/16/2021 at 9:35 PM, kav said:

Omg someone who agrees with me about everything!!!  YES YES YES and YES!!!

I read a pirated copy of the 1989 Batman -script 1 year before it was released. I saw that "I'm Batman" thing in the -script. I thought "Well, that's just poor writing. He doesn't need to tell anyone who he is. They'll change that."

They did not change a single word in that -script. And when I stood up to leave that early in the movie, the friends I went with and my wife put me back in my seat. I hated every frame of that movie. And the nerve. After "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns" had been released 3 years earlier, they went right back to Gotham City as a gigantic playground stuffed with giant props and the Joker was an insufficiently_thoughtful_person again. Pandering to the yuppies who remembered the TV show.

Now, Tim Burton is good when he's doing a Tim Burton movie. When they announced he was directing, I recalled the -script and a shiver went through me. This is going to suck. And everyone loved it. To my continued bewilderment.

[kav]

On 10/16/2021 at 6:47 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

I read a pirated copy of the 1989 Batman --script 1 year before it was released. I saw that "I'm Batman" thing in the --script. I thought "Well, that's just poor writing. He doesn't need to tell anyone who he is. They'll change that."

They did not change a single word in that --script. And when I stood up to leave that early in the movie, the friends I went with and my wife put me back in my seat. I hated every frame of that movie. And the nerve. After "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns" had been released 3 years earlier, they went right back to Gotham City as a gigantic playground stuffed with giant props and the Joker was an insufficiently_thoughtful_person again. Pandering to the yuppies who remembered the TV show.

Now, Tim Burton is good when he's doing a Tim Burton movie. When they announced he was directing, I recalled the --script and a shiver went through me. This is going to suck. And everyone loved it. To my continued bewilderment.

100%

the first batman was just awful.  all the other batmans sucked too but people go ga ga over them.  It blows my mind.

[BabyAteMyDingo]

On 10/16/2021 at 9:41 PM, kav said:

Here's my review of that suckfest:
 

One thing I've noticed about DC movies as opposed to Marvel movies is the crowds.  In a Marvel movie the

crowd is reacting to what's happening.  In a DC movie the crowd just stands there while a green flying guy

you know, shoots magical beams that stop a crashing heli and saves a girl from a falling structure with

a FORCE FIELD.  Even after the FLYING GREEN GUY shoots skyward, no one says a word.  Also, they're evenly

spaced.  It's like the director said ok you guys stand here here and here etc then forgot about them.

Dumb, man.  No one says "WHO IS THAT DUDE? HOW CAN HE FLY?" or even "OMG!"

     Also, the debut of GL was dumb.  A heli starts to crash-heads for the crowd, all this times passes

before FINALLY GL does something about it.  He watched it all go down, like everyone, but just, I don't

know, reached for another drink.

     Also we have Sinestro- the GL leader(the guardians don't say or do much of anything-they kinda remind 

me of Michael Jackson on propofol. Dumb).  So Sinestro tells Hal how inferior and unworthy he is

cause he's human.  If I was Hal I would have quipped 'Hey Goebbels-what's with the racist attitude,

man?  Haven't you ever heard of diversity?  Seig Heil, dude.'  

The film plods along with the usual stupidities.  No one recognizes Hal because he's wearing an 

eye mask.  To test this I bought a same size domino mask and put it on.  I walked around to various

friends and acquantances and guess what-every single one said 'Hey Kav-what's with the mask?'  Dumb.

     I also don't like the lantern.  It's obviously a lightweight cheap plastic prop and looks somewhat

like a 60's hippie lamp.  Dumb.

     Then we have the scene kyped from the original Superman movie where he flies up to Lois Lane I 

mean Carol Ferris's penthouse.  He even steals Superman's line 

'are you ok?' And why does everyone in the movies live in penthouses???  I

guess Hollywood thinks since they and all their friends live in penthouses, so must the rest of

America.  Out of touch, boys?  It bugs me that the average 17 year old can spot these gaffes yet no

one on a multimillion dollar movie set can.  Hollywood: I'M AVAILABLE FOR CONSULTATION!  I'LL

WORK FOR FREE!  Christ.

     OK finally Carol recognizes it's Hal.  Why it took her 3 minutes of staring to come up with this

when my friends didn't even take 1/2 a second is a mystery.  PS can't the actor at least shave if he's

gonna be in a multimillion dollar film? These and other questions I have. The beard stubble is distracting.  

Hal's OA GL mentor explained the mask appears when he's among his own kind so he can go unrecognized.

The fact that beings as dumb as this have such powerful weapons scares me.

     And the romance scenes really DRAG, man.  They could have just as effectively put up a sign

that said 'ROMANCE SCENE HERE" instead of having the 'actors' go thru the painful motions of

speaking such lame dialogue.

     Then there's the scene where Hal's old schoolmate now turned toad-style kung fu lookin dude

battles GL. He keeps launching oxygen tanks at GL and GL keeps trying to block them with his ring.

Of course several slip past and knock him senseless.  Hey, dummy-just make a friggin force field.

Christ.  Then we have to hear the cheesy villain 'moogie-ha-ha' laugh.  Corny, guys. Weak 

characterization.  No one is 100% evil-Hitler liked dogs.  But that's too deep for these writers,

no-they went with the formula villain.  In fact this whole movie could have been written by a 

computer.  I'm not kidding.  There are actual programs that do this.  So then the villain starts 

MONOLOGUING.  Guys-go see 'The Incredibles'.  That movie MOCKED the weak character device pretty

effectively.

     Then we learn that Hal is AFRAID.  He has the most advanced weapon ever devised and he's 

AFRAID.  Give me the freakin ring and I'll handle it dude.  I'll defeat the menace because I'll 

ATTACK it instead of staring at it with gaping mouth.  Double Christ.  Hollywood-it's not a good

sign when a viewer keeps waiting for the movie to be OVER.  But that's how I felt.  And everyone

else I talked to.  Even teenagers HATED this movie.  PS the actor that plays Sinestro is great-

it's too bad he got pulled into this suckfest.

     We also have the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom rip-off where the evil guardian

sucks the souls out of his victim's eyeballs.  Lame.  Then Hal gets half his soul sucked out but 

he's still ok.  I guess a half-wit can operate with a half-soul.  This movie is a real tragedy

it could have been so good-GL has the most interesting super power.  But Hollywood formula 

writing prevails and we have suckfest instead.

     Hal lures the creature into the asteroid belt, which is strangely close to Earth, and is chock

full of asteroids.  Science note-the actual belt is so sparse if you passed thru it you would't

see a single asteroid.  The entire mass of asteroids circling the Sun at a circumference of billions

of miles would constitute a small moon.  There's not much there, folks.  Sorry.  If the actual

belt was this crowded Earth would be struck so often that no life, not even bacteria, would have 

time to evolve.

     

     

    So therefore I am re-naming this movie 'Green Latrine'

That's a wrap.

That is so right on. Even The Big Bang Theory bagged on it every chance it got. I loved the Neal Adams Denny O'Neil run. When I saw the movie (Thankfully for free.), I couldn't believe how far off the mark they went. I dug the Sinestro character to a degree. The guy can act.

[Galen130]

On 10/16/2021 at 7:35 PM, kav said:

Omg someone who agrees with me about everything!!!  YES YES YES and YES!!!

 

[BabyAteMyDingo]

On 10/16/2021 at 9:49 PM, kav said:

100%

the first batman was just awful.  all the other batmans sucked too but people go ga ga over them.  It blows my mind.

I really don't understand it either. They are all trash. But they make huge bucks. I think our curse is we actually know the character. The buffoons who love the movies are equating it with the TV show.

A rumour I heard during the filming of the 1989 movie: Adam West pulled a layton Moore and felt he was the only one who should be wearing the cape and cowl. Do, Burton offered him a part in the movie. Bruce's father. Hahahahaaaaa!

[kav]

On 10/16/2021 at 6:53 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

That is so right on. Even The Big Bang Theory bagged on it every chance it got. I loved the Neal Adams Denny O'Neil run. When I saw the movie (Thankfully for free.), I couldn't believe how far off the mark they went. I dug the Sinestro character to a degree. The guy can act.

they could have used the denny o neill storylines and done a retro movie-it would have been awesome.  Instead they gave it to some formula hack to write.

[kav]

On 10/16/2021 at 6:55 PM, BabyAteMyDingo said:

I really don't understand it either. They are all trash. But they make huge bucks. I think our curse is we actually know the character. The buffoons who love the movies are equating it with the TV show.
 

The TV show was purposely corny.  The movies are all inadvertently corny.

[kav]

The movie Boy wonder could have been a young Batman.  Excellent film. 

[kav]

Instead we get corn on the cobb.

[BabyAteMyDingo]

On 10/16/2021 at 9:56 PM, kav said:

they could have used the denny o neill storylines and done a retro movie-it would have been awesome.  Instead they gave it to some formula hack to write.

They still could. I cannot believe they don't know Marvel is killing them at the box office. Even the first Fantastic Four movie held my attention.

In 1999, I moved to where I live now. I sought out a LCS and made small talk with the owner. We talked about Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. He asked me: "You know who would make an AWESOME Bruce Wayne if they did that movie?"

Without missing a beat, we both said at the same time "Clint Eastwood". LOL! Because you just KNOW the character and the vibe so well.

[BabyAteMyDingo]

On 10/16/2021 at 9:57 PM, kav said:

The TV show was purposely corny.  The movies are all inadvertently corny.

I was always under the impression that the movies were corny by proxy. Because they were trying so hard for brand recognition. And all the while alienating the fan who loved and knew the character.

I showed a friend my copy of Batman #3 a few years ago. Heavy book. Know what he did?

"Duh-nuh-nuh-BAT-MAN!" Totally ignorant of what he was looking at.