danchoi03 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) I want to ask your opinion about color touch restoration. I purchasedHOS 92 recently on Ebay and I noticed the back of the front cover hasa tiny purple dot. This purple dot is located on the back side of theBat right wing of the front cover. I am not sure this is color touchor manufacturing error. Thanks Edited February 23, 2022 by danchoi03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Looks like A-1 color touch to me, which is the best that you can ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 It's always difficult to assess from photos, but I would say not colour touch. Logically, if someone was going to touch that cover up, with either a view to enhancing eye appeal or increasing value, then I would have expected them to touch these areas up too: A dot on the Bat wing line seems an odd one to target. Does it feel like there was something there to touch up? Nice book, by the way. Turnando and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 It's not manufacturing, Printed ink never bleeds through KCOComics and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danchoi03 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 @Get Marwood & I the area around the purple dot is smooth. I don't feel anything unusual. I think you are also right about the fact if someone wants to color touch, why doesn't he/she touch other areas where color touch will need the most. Therefore, my conclusion is probably not color touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggy Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 12:17 PM, danchoi03 said: @Get Marwood & I the area around the purple dot is smooth. I don't feel anything unusual. I think you are also right about the fact if someone wants to color touch, why doesn't he/she touch other areas where color touch will need the most. Therefore, my conclusion is probably not color touch. I have seen dots like that in past in parts of the book where it doesn't make sense for it to be colour touched. I can't see anything obvious based on your pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 8:17 PM, danchoi03 said: @Get Marwood & I the area around the purple dot is smooth. I don't feel anything unusual. I think you are also right about the fact if someone wants to color touch, why doesn't he/she touch other areas where color touch will need the most. Therefore, my conclusion is probably not color touch. Kevin76 is right about printed ink, so it might have been a flaw in the paper or an ink drop of some kind post production. Hard to see it as a conscious attempt at CT in that location alone, but who knows, people do odd things. If it's smooth to the touch, what were they covering up anyway? Send it in to CGC and it'll come back trimmed Joking. OtherEric, ThothAmon, djzombi and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzutak Posted February 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 12:20 PM, greggy said: I have seen dots like that in past in parts of the book where it doesn't make sense for it to be colour touched. I can't see anything obvious based on your pics. My experience matches greggy's, which places me in the not color touched camp. Remember, this cover was one of several covers (usually 4 or 6) that were first printed onto a larger sheet of glossy stock. These printed sheets were then placed in stacks. Eventually, the individual covers on a given sheet were separated and mated with matching interiors. It's likely that the printed-but-as-yet-untrimmed sheet directly below the one containing your specific cover had a wet spec of purple ink. That wet ink then bled onto the underside of your cover by direct contact. The ink on your IFC didn't bleed thru from your OFC; it bled from another OFC of this same issue (IFC = inside front cover; OFC = outside front cover). grendelbo, steveinthecity, The Lions Den and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The only problem you may have is that it looks like color touch even if it's not... KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 6:49 PM, The Lions Den said: The only problem you may have is that it looks like color touch even if it's not... That's where I am. Looks like ink bleed through. KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Lions Den is correct: if the restoration check is being done by a novice, he/she might rule this purple dot "color touch." However, I don't believe a seasoned pro would. There will be no surface anomaly observed when the outside front cover is rotated under an oblique or raking light. Even more convincing is the fact that the deepest/strongest purple on the dot (which is at the center of the dot, just as we'd expect) is offset from the purple line on the front cover. grendelbo, danchoi03 and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Could have had a pen sitting on the book and leak on the book many years ago Just cause there's ink on the book doesn't mean color touch was intended to be a color touch. Only way to know is to have it graded and see what CGC thinks. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 To be honest, I don't think this little spot of ink was intentional, and that's usually the deciding factor as far as CGC is concerned. I'm constantly impressed by the combined knowledge of my fellow board members, however. A most excellent thread! djzombi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 9:13 PM, zzutak said: Lions Den is correct: if the restoration check is being done by a novice, he/she might rule this purple dot "color touch." However, I don't believe a seasoned pro would. There will be no surface anomaly observed when the outside front cover is rotated under an oblique or raking light. Even more convincing is the fact that the deepest/strongest purple on the dot (which is at the center of the dot, just as we'd expect) is offset from the purple line on the front cover. I'd be more concerned about the stain over the "T" than the dot of ink. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...