Reyhann Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I recently bought this great copy of a iron man and submariner 1 and found that when it came it had extremely jagged right hand side of the comic and that it was not perfectly cut was just wondering if you guys think this comic was miscut or trimmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I'm gonna say that it appears trimmed. PovertyRow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyTown Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 8:29 AM, Reyhann said: miscut or trimmed? Zoom in for excitement: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyhann Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 9:30 PM, KirbyTown said: Zoom in for excitement: Can you help zoom in to the right side of this CGC, do you think it’s similar to mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I'm going to lean towards not trimmed littledoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 To me, it looks trimmed, but photos can be very deceptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyTown Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 9:48 AM, Reyhann said: Can you help zoom in to the right side of this CGC, do you think it’s similar to mine? steveinthecity and Funnybooks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyTown Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) On 8/3/2022 at 10:47 AM, KirbyTown said: This is a normal silver age Marvel thing, particularly around '67-'68 in my experience. Edited August 3, 2022 by KirbyTown littledoom, Readcomix, The Lions Den and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Trimming is just about impossible to make a definitive statement about via photo. Okay, that said, on a 1 to 10 scale of increasing suspicion, I'd give this one a 6. The problem, in my eyes, is not that some of the reading edge is rough-cut and wavy. As you can see in those graded books, Marvel's printer didn't exactly use cutting-edge (ha!) technology in the late '60s, and so a LOT of their books like that. My problem is that parts of the reading edge look that way, and parts of the reading edge look sharp-cut and smooth. You've got rough-cut sections at the bottom, and aligned with the R in the title. But compare those to the sections aligned with Iron Man's left hand, or just below his knee. That's not conclusive evidence either way, but it's easy to imagine this began with a markedly uneven edge that was then shaved down. Alternatively, parts of the production cutting blade may have just been sharper than others; we know that the printer wasn't real concerned about QA. I'm suspicious of this book, but I don't think you're going to be able to get a conclusive answer from anyone who doesn't have the book in hand. grendelbo, theCapraAegagrus and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 400% NOT Trimmed, Dull slitter blade @ Printing plant If it was trimmed after production, all pages and cover would be flushed together, corners would be super sharp, right edge would look "weird" Edited August 3, 2022 by Kevin76 The Lions Den, Funnybooks, silverseeker and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Add my 2 cents to the "definitely not trimmed" pile. Funnybooks, littledoom, silverseeker and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 @grendelbo @Galen130 grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 If someone trimmed that, they used dull sheep shears. Production cut I say. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I'd say not trimmed. On 8/3/2022 at 10:36 AM, Qalyar said: Trimming is just about impossible to make a definitive statement about via photo. +1 Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 10:00 AM, Galen130 said: If someone trimmed that, they used dull sheep shears. Production cut I say. I can't wrap my head around how it would be possible to put an aftermarket trim on a book like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 10:39 AM, FFB said: I can't wrap my head around how it would be possible to put an aftermarket trim on a book like that. Thats what THEY want you to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 not trimmed Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Pretty common on quite a few Marvels from this time period... grendelbo, silverseeker and Funnybooks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyhann Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 10:52 PM, KirbyTown said: This is a normal silver age Marvel thing, particularly around '67-'68 in my experience. On 8/3/2022 at 11:36 PM, Qalyar said: Trimming is just about impossible to make a definitive statement about via photo. Okay, that said, on a 1 to 10 scale of increasing suspicion, I'd give this one a 6. The problem, in my eyes, is not that some of the reading edge is rough-cut and wavy. As you can see in those graded books, Marvel's printer didn't exactly use cutting-edge (ha!) technology in the late '60s, and so a LOT of their books like that. My problem is that parts of the reading edge look that way, and parts of the reading edge look sharp-cut and smooth. You've got rough-cut sections at the bottom, and aligned with the R in the title. But compare those to the sections aligned with Iron Man's left hand, or just below his knee. That's not conclusive evidence either way, but it's easy to imagine this began with a markedly uneven edge that was then shaved down. Alternatively, parts of the production cutting blade may have just been sharper than others; we know that the printer wasn't real concerned about QA. I'm suspicious of this book, but I don't think you're going to be able to get a conclusive answer from anyone who doesn't have the book in hand. My biggest problem with my book is that when I flay the pages it just looks like an extremely poor trimming job that someone did with a cutter here are some photos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 still appears to be untrimmed comicnoir, Galen130 and grendelbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
